Edgy MD

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Gordon's one of those little insects who has almost no power at all, looks to me like a backup already. Tejada is already better. And blah blah never enough pitching blah blah, the reason to flip Dickey is for offense that can help now, not minor league pitching depth. Yeah, I'm pretty much there. Or at least as close to there as I can be without offending Bucket with my odor or any sexual tension. Lee was a two-sport star with Citadel provenance. Maybe he's knocking the scouts out in part because he cuts such an impressive athletic figure. These guys, whoever they are, rank him as the 23rd best pitching prospect in the minors. Righthanders from Texas always make folks drool. Klapisch recommended jumping at this deal in the midst of saying the Mets did right by signing David. Obviously, his job isn't going well unless the Mets do wrong.

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Edgy, how much does Arencibia suck? Probably as much as Shoppie, but, you know, younger, cheaper, more chance of improvement. It's funny to think Shoppach burned some bridges with his personality. The Mets have a long history of treating catchers with personality issues as assets.

Klapisch and others are pushing the Mets to move the D for big league shortstop Dee Gordon and AA righty Zach Lee. I'm leery. Gordon cooked up a great big pot of Regresso Sauce last year, and brings less slugging to the table than Ruben Tejada, as hard as that might be to believe. Baseball America has bumped Lee from #89 (Pre-2011) to #62 (Pre-2012) to #49 (Mid-2012). I can't find a post-season rating but I think he's inching into the top 30. But he's one of those that keeps climbing prospect lists despite the performances staying modest.

I tried to say that at the bottom., but he's gonna sign with the Yankees, which is about the suckiest thing a player can do.

And as one long and troubling chapter is officially completed, another barely lasts a sentence. Starting Pitchers OutfieldersDrafted Away From Tampa Bay Sold To DetroitSigned Away By Seattle =#FF8000]87 Kyle Lobstein DoB: 8/12/1989 =#FF8000]87 Kyle Lobstein DoB: 8/12/1989 =#0000FF]44 Jason Bay DoB: 9/20/1978 Because he felt like an 87. That's why. Your Projected Opening Day 2013 Mets (Orange Indicates Players Have Options) Starting Pitchers =#0000FF]43 R.A. Dickey DoB: 10/29/1974 =#0000FF]35 =#FF8000]Dillon Gee DoB: 4/28/1986 =#0000FF]33 =#FF8000]Matt Harvey DoB: 3/27/1989 =#0000FF]49 Jonathon Niese DoB: 10/27/1986 =#0000FF]57 Johan Santana DoB: 3/13/1979Relief Pitchers =#FF8000]40 =#0000FF]Greg Burke DoB: 9/21/1982 =#0000FF]73 =#FF8000]Robert Carson DoB: 1/23/1989 =#0000FF]66 =#FF8000]Josh Edgin DoB: 12/17/1986 =#0000FF]48 Frank Francisco DoB: 9/11/1979 =#0000FF]32 =#FF8000]Jenrry Mejia DoB: 10/11/1989Relief Pitchers Catchers Infielders =#0000FF]39 Bobby Parnell DoB: 9/8/1984 =#0000FF]62 Elvin Ramirez DoB: 10/10/1987 =#FF8000]20 =#0000FF]Anthony Recker DoB: 2/13/1983 =#0000FF]30 Josh Thole DoB: 4/28/1986 =#0000FF]29 =#FF8000]Ike Davis DoB: 3/22/1987Infielders =#FF8000]18 =#0000FF]Brandon Hicks DoB: 9/14/1985 =#0000FF]28 Daniel Murphy DoB: 4/1/1985 =#0000FF]11 Ruben Tejada DoB: 10/27/1989 =#0000FF]2 Justin Turner DoB: 11/23/1984 =#0000FF]5 David Wright DoB: 12/20/1982Outfielders =#0000FF]23 =#FF8000]Mike Baxter DoB: 12/7/1984 =#0000FF]21 =#FF8000]Lucas Duda DoB: 2/3/1986 =#0000FF]76 =#FF8000]Juan Lagares DoB: 3/17/1989 =#0000FF]9 =#FF8000]Kirk Nieuwenhuis DoB: 8/7/1987 =#0000FF]1 =#FF8000]Jordany Valdespin DoB: 12/23/1987 Also on 40-Man Roster Starting Pitchers =#0000FF]27 =#FF8000]Jeurys Familia DoB: 10/10/1989 =#FF8000]76 =#FF8000]Gonzalez Germen DoB: 9/23/1987 =#FF8000]20 =#FF8000]Darin Gorski DoB: 10/6/1987 =#0000FF]53 =#FF8000]Jeremy Hefner DoB: 3/11/1981 =#0000FF]36 =#FF8000]Collin McHugh DoB: 6/19/1987Starting Pitchers Infielders =#FF8000]72 =#FF8000]Hansel Robles DoB: 8/13/1990 =#FF8000]45 =#FF8000]Zack Wheeler DoB: 5/30/1990 =#0000FF]71 =#FF8000]Wilmer Flores DoB: 8/6/1991 =#0000FF]74 =#FF8000]Reese Havens DoB: 10/20/1986 =#0000FF]65 =#FF8000]Zach Lutz DoB: 6/3/1986InfieldersOutfielders =#FF8000]79 =#FF8000]Wilfredo Tovar DoB: 8/11/1991 =#0000FF]67 =#FF8000]Cesar Puello DoB: 4/1/1991 Also in Camp Relief Pitchers Catchers Infielders =#0000FF]40 Tim Byrdak DoB: 10/37/1978 =#FF8000]67 =#FF8000]Scott Rice DoB: 9/21/1981 =#FF8000]59 =#0000FF]Carlos Torres DoB: 10/22/1982 =#0000FF]4 Mike Nickeas DoB: 8/29/1983 =#FF8000]12 =#0000FF]Brian Bixler DoB: 10/22/1982Outfielders =#FF8000]55 =#FF8000]Jamie Hoffman DoB:8/20/1984 Free Agents Starting PitchersRelief Pitchers =#0000FF]34 Mike Pelfrey DoB: 1/14/1984 =#0000FF]55 Chris Young DoB: 5/25/1979 =#0000FF]46 Manny Acosta DoB: 5/1/1981 =#0000FF]45 =#FF8000]Justin Hampson DoB: 1/23/1989 =#0000FF]52 Ram�n Ram�rez DoB:8/31/1981Relief Pitchers Catchers Infielders Outfielders =#0000FF]60 John Rauch DoB:9/27/1978 =#0000FF]6 Kelly Shoppach DoB: 4/29/1984 =#0000FF]13 Ronny Cede�o DoB: 2/2/1983 =#0000FF]12 Scott Hairston DoB: 5/25/1980 =#0000FF]15 Fred Lewis DoB: 12/9/1980Outfielders =#0000FF]56 Andr�s Torres DoB:1/26/1978 Coaching Staff ManagerBench CoachBatting CoachPitching CoachThird Base CoachFirst Base Coach =#0000FF]10 Terry Collins DoB: 5/27/1949 =#0000FF]7 Bob Geren DoB: 9/22/1959 =#0000FF]51 Dave Hudgens DoB: 12/5/1956 =#0000FF]59 Dan Warthan DoB: 12/1/1952 =#0000FF]18 Tim Teufel DoB: 7/7/1958 =#0000FF]26 Tom Goodwin DoB: 8/27/1968 Bullpen Coach Bullpen CatcherBatting Practice Pitcher Head Trainer Assistant Trainer Mascot =#0000FF]25 Ricky Bones DoB: 4/7/1969 =#0000FF]79 Dave Racaniello DoB: 10/15/1981 =#0000FF]78 Eric Langill DoB: 4/9/1979 =#BF8080].=#0000FF] Ray Ramirez =#BF8080]. =#BF8080].=#0000FF] Brian Chicklo =#BF8080]. =#BF8080].=#0000FF] Mr. Met =#BF8080].

"Lobstein" sounds like a fake name made up on a Brooklyn playground to deride the kid with the noodle arm. "C'mon! Zip it in already, Lobstein!"

Lucas Duda will someday save a World Series game with a diving catch.

And that's why I'm here to help! [list:2wwnbxrb][*:2wwnbxrb]Koyie Hill sucks less than Nickeas.[/*:m:2wwnbxrb] [*:2wwnbxrb]Henry Blanco sucks less than Hill.[/*:m:2wwnbxrb] [*:2wwnbxrb]Matt Treanor sucks less than Blanco.[/*:m:2wwnbxrb] [*:2wwnbxrb]Ronny Paulino sucks less than Treanor.[/*:m:2wwnbxrb] [*:2wwnbxrb]Humberto Quintero sucks less than Paulino.[/*:m:2wwnbxrb] [*:2wwnbxrb]Chris Snyder sucks less than Quintero.[/*:m:2wwnbxrb] [*:2wwnbxrb]Yorvit Torrealba sucks less than Snyder, and played for three teams in 2012 proving it.[/*:m:2wwnbxrb] [*:2wwnbxrb]Brian Schneider sucks less than Torrealba, but for how long, Schnied? HOW LONG?![/*:m:2wwnbxrb] [*:2wwnbxrb]Wil Nieves sucks less than Schneider.[/*:m:2wwnbxrb] [*:2wwnbxrb]Rod Barajas sucks less than Nieves, but it's a hard call.[/*:m:2wwnbxrb] [*:2wwnbxrb]Miguel Olivo sucks less than Barajas.[/*:m:2wwnbxrb] [*:2wwnbxrb]Kelly Shoppach sucks less than Olivo.[/*:m:2wwnbxrb] [*:2wwnbxrb]Mike Napoli sucks less than Schneider.[/*:m:2wwnbxrb] [*:2wwnbxrb]A.J. Pierzynski sucks less than Napoli[/*:m:2wwnbxrb][/list:u:2wwnbxrb] Pretty much the dotted line between "sucky, but could be an asset," and "not really that sucky" occurs between Shoppie and Napoli. I apologize if some of these suckers area already off the suck market, but, you know, there's clearly no shortage. Sorting these suckers out is where the rubber hits the road in professional souting. I think the Mets hit the trade market. Trade a modest pitching prospect (Mark Cohoon) for Taylor Teagarden or somebody else who may still have some time to prove he's not as sucky as all that.

So, what you're saying is... he should be affordable?

I got Shoppie early in the season in my OotP 2012 replay, and even his electronic alter-ego is annoying.

Hopefully, their ambition exceeds "better than Nickeas."

I'm not arguing for Hart --- believes me --- but the table above certainly suggests there's room in the Mets outfield for both of them.

Frayed Knot wrote: I kind of picture the owners sitting around a big, smoke-filled room making up these sort of unwritten rules with their GMs sitting behind them making sure their drink glasses are filled, etc. "Don Wilpon must share those minor leaguers he controls in his pockets like so many nickels and dimes. Of course he has the right to charge a fee for such services. After all, we are not communists here" Hey, it was the same sort of deal that allowed the Reds to make the deal for Josh Hamilton that led to the salvation of his career. that was a $100,000 deal, supposedly. That's enough to fill the soda machine, anyhow.

metirish wrote: Why would the Mets help Detroit like that?, something else in the works? Because money isn't infinite.

Frayed Knot wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Internets say the Mets are expected to flip this Lobster fellow to Detroit or the Marlins. Traded to the Tigers for cash. Yeah!

Danny Frisella died at David's age. Sorry, Mets fans. But that's silly. He's an infielder. Like Ray Chapman or Danny Thompson.

So much for the benefit of having a manager who had come out of the development system being more aware of what's going on down below.

Ryan Howard, wedding photo phail.

Howie Megdal, come out and play.

Whoah...

"Jeff, seriously... is that really your hair?" "Your sister-in-law: how nuts is she? Just between us, Jeff?" "Your official bio claiming you actually played a little minor league ball... how were you hoping to get away with that? They have this thing called the internet these days, Jeff." "Seriously, though, your sister-in-law, doesn't she have some money that can help you out? You can't be that crazy and walking the streets unless you're crazy rich." "What time is it? Yeah, I think a fifth round sounds good. Did you wet yourself when you saw the Marlins ballpark?"

That doesn't sound enthusiastic at all.

Dialing the creepy down a smudge.

By all that is sacred, make it stop!

I'm apparently not wildly enthusiastic enough about Tennessee. I shouldn't have screwn that up, as it's Dickey's hometown.