d'Kong76 wrote: The point is, the strike zone is where the ball goes over the plate. Not what some some catcher does with his glove afterwards. If the ump is judging by the latter, he's not doing his job well. But that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. But, in general, I think you're right in that announcers tend to credit FAR too much to catchers and their slight of hand mojo. Hell, listen to the Nats announcers and they credit about 3/4 of the strike calls to the Washington backstops. -- OK it's probably not that many but it seems that just about each time a strike gets called and their electronic box thingie shows that the ball actually missed by an inch or three they just ring it up to their catchers.