Frayed Knot

smg58 wrote: That, and the fact that the Rangers felt that they were better off dealing him four years into his contract, and only the Yankees and Red Sox stepped in as suitors. And that they felt the Rangers were better off dealing him four into in the contract even though he was still in his twenties and was playing up to if not beyond the best expectations when it was signed. And that even those two suitors who did step up only considered taking him on at a SEVERE discount, with the Sox discount being too big for the union's liking as things turned out. All those factors make it virtually the definition of of bad contract. That said, those numbers weren't even in pencil at the point where Phillips/Mets walked away but it's also silly to imagine that they soon wouldn't have been. It's like Wilpon/Phillips [now appearing in 'Bridesmaids'] make the right decision for the wrong reason.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I don't think he should have taken the grief back then. Sure, I was disappointed that the Mets bailed so quickly, but Texas came along with a blow-everyone-out-of-the-water offer. I can't say that the Mets should have topped that. B-b-b-but ARod would have signed with the Mets for $100 million dollars less because he said they were his favorite team growing up. or so went conventional wisdom on the MoFo at the time

Ceetar wrote: Whatever his mindset, I'm glad someone is standing up to MLB. I wonder why the players union isn't saying much, unless they're mindset is "Hope it blows over and they don't look at anyone else too closely" Seems a bad precedent though, because players are going to continue to seek out advanced treatments from doctors on the cutting edge (And often over that edge) and said doctors may well end up in this same situation. Like that Toronto doctor with the blood-spinning and had an intern or something smuggling steroids over the border? A-Rod was named (and didn't cooperate) there too right? Is he just a drug-mule or does it really talk to like every doctor? I'm all for guys standing up to MLB in a case like this where the league (or WADA/USADA in other cases) take on the role of judge, jury, and executioner. But the union IS fighting for him - or tried to anyway, they were trying to cut a deal - before ARod and his even changing roster of personal lawyers and advisors continually got in the way. Also, there's fighting for your rights and then there's delusion. As I said above, when everyone else has apparently seen what MLB has and chose not to fight it (particularly Braun) you have to wonder how he thinks he's going to slip away from the noose here unless the story about them having "tons more" evidence against him in particular is total bullshit. If he thinks he's innocent here and, by fighting it, can wind up with every single penny in that contract, he's apparently the only one.

The latest rumors have him NOT being suspended while an appeal goes on--and ARod is still denying EVERYTHING so there is almost certain to be an appeal--so he still expects to be in uniform tonight in Chicago no matter what pronouncements come down in the next few hours. You have to wonder about Rodriguez's mindset as virtually every other player (there's still some question about Nelson Cruz) is apparently going to accept their penalties while Alex fights his to the last drop even though MLB is said to have more on him than on anyone including Braun who willingly took a greater-than-standard penalty for first-timers (which he technically was).

Well, this isn't the first time that's been suggested. There was some veiled allusion, back in ST I think, that NYM mgmt was somewhat leery of Ike's possible "influence on younger players", or some words to that effect. That statement didn't specifically mention drinking but it certainly gave the impression that that was a possibility.

Yeah Gary mentioned that on today's telecast. Though the Mets have played fewer games than any team in the league they've played the most (or maybe it was second most) innings to date on account of all the extra inning games. In addition, the 48 extra innings so far is only a small number off the NYM team record for a year and the record for any team in any season was possibly in reach as well although I forget the exact numbers for each.

Swan Swan H wrote: Ronny Cedeno DFAed by the Astros, along with Carlos Pena. Ronnie Cedeno hired by the Padres in advance of Evereth Cabrera getting an unplanned-for vacation.

Edgy MD wrote: Oh, crap, that Coleman guy. He was like a cooler the other night. But now Buck's ball falls in (you figure with a name like Dyson he should have been able to suck that one up)

The ugly defensive inning (lost balls, passed balls, wild pitches, 4-pitch walks) and then the Byrd bases-loaded K in the bottom half just sucked all the optimistic air out of this game - yet another one that's destined for well over three-hour territory.

The latest reports say that MLB is so pissed at ARod for (among other things) the (not-so) veiled references in his Friday night press conference about those who "had an interest" in him being run out of the game that they've cut off any future negotiations with his representatives as to how long the suspension will be and are now just prepared to announce their version of his suspension on Monday. The terms are said to be for the rest of 2013 and all of 2014, or about 210 games. Alex, of course, is still saying that, having finished up his rehab in Trenton, he plans to be in Chicago on Monday for the Yanx game against the White Sox.

Frayed Knot wrote: We've beat better closers than this guy. Just not lately.

We've beat better closers than this guy.

Was removing Murphy instead of say Satin worth the extra two spots in the batting order? ... Mebbe

So more Met baseball for our buck. Awesome! Well, slightly more* Met baseball for the buck based on there being so many extra innings games. But mostly it's just the same amount of baseball just l-o-n-g-e-r and more stretched out. * and Gary confirms that this 11th inning here is the Mets 47th extra inning of the season, the most in MLB for 2013 oe: and now on to eXI #48

Edgy MD wrote: EY has a mean game face when he's at the plate. It's that big jaw. A between-innings graphic confirms what I've long suspected, that the Mets are averaging the longest games in the NL this season (3 hours 11 minutes) and are tied for third longest overall in the majors. The Red Sox, to no one's surprise, head the list.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I think the Wrecker pops one here and ends it. Seems like it's been a while since we saw Recker get close to a pitch.

Turner - Recker - SQuinty ... sounds like some runs. Or not.

Has Pedro got someone's signature tattooed behind his left ear? HIs own? His doctor's? Jack Lew's maybe?

A very discouraging offensive afternoon so far. Chen has retired nine in a row and the Mets have 8 Ks but only 4 hits - 3 singles and Murph's boom.

Alex Rodriguez and the others are reported to have a 6PM Sunday deadline to reach an agreement with MLB on punishment in the BioGenesis case or have one handed to them on Monday. ARod, who played in Trenton Friday night, is coincidentally (or not) on track to re-join the Yanquis on Monday following another game today and then an evaluation on Sunday. He even held a press conference following his game in which he talked about there being "more than one party that benefits from me not ever stepping back on the field. That�s not my teammates and it�s not the Yankee fans.�. Hmmmm, so if it's not Yankee teammates and it's not Yankee fans, then that must leave the Yankee [rhymes with shmanagement]. When asked who the parties were, Rodriguez said: �I can�t tell you that right now ... And I hope I never have to.� Oh this is going to get good!

Gee is getting less beer from me than an 7-inning shut-out would normally deserve on account of his shitty bunting.

Sabathia with 4 runs given up through 4 innings in Sandy Eggo tonight. He's served up 7 runs in each of his last two starts so he's got a ways to go although he's well on his way. The 4th run was particularly fun to watch: with two outs an no one on CC failed to cover the bag on a grounder to 1st ... next guy up hit a triple. 4-2 SD, top 5

themetfairy wrote: Bob Costas is going to be pissed off Y'know, I noticed that the home plate ump was walking away before Young ever reached home and never even bothered to check whether he actually touched the base. Umps used to be anal about seeing it through to the end.

THAT I was not expecting.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: And other than the fact that we haven't scored since the 1st inning, can't buy a clutch hit for shit, are out of bench players ('cept for Recker) and out of pitchers while KC has all of their good ones still in store, I think things are really looking up here. And other than the fact that AL pitchers have been out-hitting our pitchers and out-bunting our pitchers this year. That's the shame of it. Ike Davis might never have another 3 hit game in his life but getting him around the bases is impossible on this team. And that's even with the guy behind him (Q) getting two hits, plus a bunt, plus a walk.