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Well it's not that I was disagreeing with you and it's possible for him to beat us 5 times this season or more.

="John Cougar Lunchbucket":axxf6rt3]Doesn't appear we had the O to beat Johnson anyhow, [/quote:axxf6rt3] That's a hell of a thing to say considering how many times we will face this guy this season, doesn't bode well does it? John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 13 2009 07:55 AM I meant yesterday we didn't. Some days he won't have as much. metirish Apr 13 2009 07:56 AM Well it's not that I was disagreeing with you and it's possible for him to beat us 5 times this season or more. G-Fafif Apr 13 2009 08:36 AM Matter raised in my e-mail group that I have to admit didn't occur to me all weekend: somebody should have slid hard or come inside to send a message/retaliate for last September, the way they celebrated on our field and such, and in general for taking such glee in eliminating us. I can't imagine this bunch of Mets doing anything like that, from the manager down to the stars, the starting pitchers, anybody save maybe for a cranky reliever or two but then you're worried about protecting a lead. I instinctively approve all Met retaliation, proactive or otherwise, but my gut tells me you beat teams by outplaying them. Any thoughts? TransMonk Apr 13 2009 08:39 AM I ate the shit out of some fish fry on Friday thinking of the end of last season the whole time. I hoped they learned their lesson. Gwreck Apr 13 2009 08:42 AM ="G-Fafif":1j14ng15]I instinctively approve all Met retaliation, proactive or otherwise, but my gut tells me you beat teams by outplaying them. Any thoughts?[/quote:1j14ng15] I think we do that at home rather than in their park. Edgy DC Apr 13 2009 08:45 AM ="G-Fafif":186wiib5]Matter raised in my e-mail group that I have to admit didn't occur to me all weekend: somebody should have slid hard or come inside to send a message/retaliate for last September, the way they celebrated on our field and such, and in general for taking such glee in eliminating us. I can't imagine this bunch of Mets doing anything like that, from the manager down to the stars, the starting pitchers, anybody save maybe for a cranky reliever or two but then you're worried about protecting a lead. I instinctively approve all Met retaliation, proactive or otherwise, but my gut tells me you beat teams by outplaying them. Any thoughts?[/quote:186wiib5] Did the Victor Diaz GameTM actually elminate the Cubs or merely break their spirits? And did the Mets inappropriately over-celebrate? John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 13 2009 08:46 AM Yes, they should outplay them. Which sort of supports my denouncing of Jerry's passive approach to, you know, scoring enough runs to defeat them. The more I think about it the madder I get. Sixth inning, new releif pitcher in, and he gives up a home run and single. Do we keep the music playing? No, we purposefully make an out to set up... Castillo? With a chance only to tie it? And when he makes an out, not on purpose, they can sidestep Sheff. Stupid Jerry. G-Fafif Apr 13 2009 08:50 AM ="Edgy DC":jat6uws2]="G-Fafif":jat6uws2]Matter raised in my e-mail group that I have to admit didn't occur to me all weekend: somebody should have slid hard or come inside to send a message/retaliate for last September, the way they celebrated on our field and such, and in general for taking such glee in eliminating us. I can't imagine this bunch of Mets doing anything like that, from the manager down to the stars, the starting pitchers, anybody save maybe for a cranky reliever or two but then you're worried about protecting a lead. I instinctively approve all Met retaliation, proactive or otherwise, but my gut tells me you beat teams by outplaying them. Any thoughts?[/quote:jat6uws2] Did the Victor Diaz GameTM actually elminate the Cubs or merely break their spirits? And did the Mets inappropriately over-celebrate?[/quote:jat6uws2] Spirit-breaking was the event in '04. Don't recall an overwhelming celebration. Hope Diaz is seeing something for his trademark. Listen, you win and you can do what you want. This is the franchise that perfected the curtain call and created the Festival of the Handshake. The Marlins made a big deal of eliminating the Mets a second time? Don't let 'em do that: the winning, that is. I didn't notice the excessive celebration until the "GET OFF THE FIELD!" chant started. It's sad when the fans have to show the indignation for the team, I suppose, but I'd prefer the Mets show their teeth as they cross the plate. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 13 2009 08:51 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":uyqcgzju] So in summary, I'm actually pretty satisfied with most of our team but strongly disagree with the way Jerry wussed us out of Friday's game.[/quote:uyqcgzju] More or less with you, Lunchpail... Speaking of wussing out, is it me, or has Jerry gone a little Willie on us with the bullpen usage? Between playing righty-lefty with Stokes and Feliciano, sticking to one-and-done inning limits for guys like Parnell or Stokes (even in long-man/mop-up situations), and 23 (!) appearances in 6 games, I'm mildly disturbed. (The fact that this comes after a springtime of this-is-a-changed-bullpen and pitchers-who-can-pitch-to-everybody happy talk deepens that disturbance a touch.) ="G-Fafif":uyqcgzju]I instinctively approve all Met retaliation, proactive or otherwise, but my gut tells me you beat teams by outplaying them. Any thoughts?[/quote:uyqcgzju] I like the idea of doing this in their house-- something about Joe Player Dolphin stadium makes me wish the Mets would go wrestling-heel in this place. Edgy DC Apr 13 2009 08:52 AM Even the book says not to play for a tie on the road. More conservative than the book is pretty conservative. Jerry keeping Rodriguez out of the game and losing with O'Day is also a frustration. Randolph and Manuel ain't black and white. GYC Apr 13 2009 11:19 AM I ironically felt better about this series than the first one, even with the lesser results. Go figure. The big thing for me, though, is probably that I only saw one game in its entirety, so that lessens the frustration. metsmarathon Apr 13 2009 11:23 AM ="Edgy DC":1gx6ofkt]Randolph and Manuel ain't black and white.[/quote:1gx6ofkt] i would've considered them black and black.

As long as Murphy tries his best it's OK.

The question was asked , who would do it. I left it out there until I could wait no more. I have stepped up to the plate as it were to deliver what I hope to be a winning IGT. Has ever a Home Opener been more anticipated? , yes of course it has but tonight we Christen a new park( don't say stadium because Jeff doesn't want that) Santana will not be there as his wife is preggers and birth will be induced today in Florida. Seaver says he is more excited about this first pitch than the first pitch to close Shea. Mr. Seaver says he hopes he can throw it the 60 feet six inches and that it's a strike. I find it a bit sad to hear him talk like that.

Going into enemy territory on June the 14th , Mets at MFY's. Got a surprise yesterday when my wife told me that her sister bought three tickets for that game for me , her husband and her father. Those two are MFY fans......

Excellent KTE.

Beltran 1.5 Church 1.5 Wright 1.5 Delgado 1.5 Stokes 1.5 Murphy 1 Reyes 1 Feliciano .5

Big game for Livan tomorrow.....FLA could go 5 - 0 ...

Jeremy's spoken

Heartbreaking ground out by Wright.

I don't much care for Reyes running in that spot.

The quote I remember was from Keith , " there's another 8 1/3 innings to go but Maine looks great". His next quote was saying how impressive Hanley is. Uggla with a bomb.

Bonifacio,3b Baker, c Ramirez, ss Cantu, 1b Uggla,2b Hermidia, lf Ross , rf Maybin , cf Sanchez, p

="seawolf17":3g1wmjkt]What the hell is FOX Dynasty?[/quote:3g1wmjkt] FOX has exclusive rights to the 4PM to 7PM time slot . I think this is outrageous . We could miss two or three innings. Kong76 Apr 10 2009 11:35 AM Notice how he didn't ask who The Two Blow Holes were though. Lemme guess, they're doing the Cardinals game. Gwreck Apr 10 2009 11:37 AM Fox Sports (212) 556-2500 (all I get is a busy signal) -- if I do get through they're getting a piece of my mind as well. What an under-reported story. Where's Mushnick when we need him? Right here[/url:19rp3tt8], it turns out, although he fails to place the blame on Fox and MLB and instead gives us inanity about the post-game concert that the Marlins are having that led to the early start time. Nymr83 Apr 10 2009 11:47 AM ="Gwreck":36veuun8]Fox Sports (212) 556-2500 (all I get is a busy signal) -- if I do get through they're getting a piece of my mind as well. What an under-reported story. Where's Mushnick when we need him? Right here[/url:36veuun8], it turns out, although he fails to place the blame on Fox and MLB and instead gives us inanity about the post-game concert that the Marlins are having that led to the early start time.[/quote:36veuun8] The Marlins DO deserve a fair share of the blame here. The Marlins are part of MLB and they knew of MLB's contractual commitments to FOX which presumably pre-dated the scheduling of this concert, they should have started the game at the normal time, which is what the Mets do when they have a post-game concert. themetfairy Apr 10 2009 11:49 AM If they were so worried about having a concert, they could have scheduled a pre-game show. Sheesh.... Gwreck Apr 10 2009 11:51 AM Any "blame" that the Marlins have is MLB's fault. MLB needs to get the clubs in line, and if it means forcing teams to schedule their games outside the Fox broadcast window -- well, then they need to do it. I also forgot that News Corporation owns both the NY Post (Musnick's paper) and Fox Sports (one of the parties directly involved here) so there's also the whole conflict-of-interest problem if Mushnick is addressing this. John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 10 2009 11:52 AM It was also mentioned in the Snooze. Maybe I'm losing my edge but being forced to listen to the radio for an hour is stupid and unnecessary but probably not the worst thing in the world. A Boy Named Seo Apr 10 2009 11:53 AM Wow, I didn't even know about this. Agreed w/ NYMR about the Marlins being equally idiotic w/ the scheduling. But not wholly surprising that they don't give a shit about people not being able to see their product. I still don't get why FOX "owns" airspace on regular season game, but think MLB should get the brunt of the noise for negotiating such a stupid deal w/ them. Centerfield Apr 10 2009 12:08 PM I'm having this whole thread nuked. I bought exclusive posting rights on the CPF during 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. on Fridays. And I'm charging each of you for infringing on my exclusive. Certified checks or money orders please. A Boy Named Seo Apr 10 2009 12:10 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3h5uzsyq]It was also mentioned in the Snooze. Maybe I'm losing my edge but being forced to listen to the radio for an hour is stupid and unnecessary but probably not the worst thing in the world.[/quote:3h5uzsyq] That ain't the "Mets on TV" Johnny Dickshot who phoned, emailed, and faxed politicians into submission during the Dolan TV squabble. Spitzer turned to that chick because you made his job too stressful. Kong76 Apr 10 2009 12:10 PM JCL: Maybe I'm losing my edge but being forced to listen to the radio for an hour is stupid and unnecessary but probably not the worst thing in the world <<< Says John Cougar Prunejuicer. HahnSolo Apr 10 2009 01:00 PM Is tomorrow a Fox or Ch. 11 game? It would be really odd for SNY to be doing a pregame from 6:30-7 while the actual game is going on. Frayed Knot Apr 10 2009 01:40 PM ="A Boy Named Seo"]I still don't get why FOX "owns" airspace on regular season game, but think MLB should get the brunt of the noise for negotiating such a stupid deal w/ them. Simple answer is that they paid for it. MLB, as most sports (except for The Masters) do, lets TV dictate the terms and FOX is going to voluntarily give up the NYC market for their expensive game right after politicians start voluntarily giving up votes and campaign contributions. The Marlins, meanwhile, aren't televising that game locally at all so it's not like they care that SNY is blocked out for the first 55 minutes. G-Fafif Apr 10 2009 03:31 PM It's Miami at 6 PM. I wouldn't bet against a rain delay. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 10 2009 03:45 PM ="Frayed Knot"] The Marlins, meanwhile, aren't televising that game locally at all so it's not like they care that SNY is blocked out for the first 55 minutes. I remember reading this earlier in the week. Isn't their local contract to a regional FSN affiliate-- what gives for skipping a Saturday telecast? I remember Loria giving game broadcasts the same short shrift in Montreal-- no English-language radio deal for the last season under his control, eg.-- but that was on the way out the door, and "lack of fan interest" dovetailed neatly with his/MLB's joint screwjob. MFS62 Apr 10 2009 03:51 PM ="themetfairy":2ajltz9m]If they were so worried about having a concert, they could have scheduled a pre-game show. Sheesh....[/quote:2ajltz9m] There you go, trying to be logical again. Later Frayed Knot Apr 11 2009 06:37 AM ]Isn't their local contract to a regional FSN affiliate-- what gives for skipping a Saturday telecast? Answers = Yes and I don't know (I don't think there's a Heat conflict). But not all teams televise every game (we New Yorkers have long been a bit spoiled on this topic) and Saturday nights are traditionally the worst TV slot of the week. Maybe they think it boosts weekend attendance to shun TV every once in a while. btw, first pitch in now scheduled for 6:25 so, at most, TV will miss 2 innings (and, at the rate these early games have been played, maybe less than 1) bmfc1 Apr 11 2009 08:19 AM Locals cable channels (but not over-the-air channels) can show the local teams. However, the broadcasts cannot begin after 1 PM eastern and before 7 eastern as FOX has exclusive TV rights to baseball during those hours. EI and mlb.tv cannot show any game that starts during the above hours, even if it is on FOX but not available locally (so tonight's game isn't on the EI schedule). The rules differ for EI and mlb.tv for 1 starts (I don't know why). As a result, as a Mets fan in the DC area: if the Mets have a 1 PM Saturday game, it is on mlb.tv but not EI. If the game starts after 1 and before 7, it is not available in either venue. (One year, the Mets had a Saturday DH against SF. The second game started after the FOX game finished but before 7 so it wasn't available outside of NY and SF.) If the Mets are on a FOX game but it is not shown in DC, it is not available on EI or mlb.tv (as if I'm going to say "hey, the Mets aren't on but the Orioles are so at least I have baseball). The blackout rules are overlybroad and unfair. E.g., EI and mlb.tv subscribers in Las Vegas are blacked out from 6 different teams broadcasts. This has been talked about for years and Selig talks about fixing it but never does. Maybe with today's absurdity, something will be done (although I wish it happened to a MFY broadcast). Kong76 Apr 11 2009 08:30 AM FK: btw, first pitch in now scheduled for 6:25 <<< They're caving, they hear our footsteps. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 11 2009 12:11 PM ="Kong76"]FK: btw, first pitch in now scheduled for 6:25 <<< They're caving, they hear our footsteps. But... but... that means less vocal warm-up time for Flo Rida... and a subpar version of that "Shawty got low, low, low, low" song. Oh, most pyrrhic victory! Kong76 Apr 11 2009 12:57 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 11 2009 06:20 PM Having trouble figuring out if there is something oddly familiar about you or if you're just familiarly odd :-) dgwphotography Apr 11 2009 01:37 PM Justice would be served if the game went 15 innings... Kong76 Apr 11 2009 06:22 PM Lol, apologies to LWFS, Flo Rida is actually performing tonight according to the booth. I need rest.

I had forgotten that O'Day and Rodriguez knew Andenhardt. O'day said he had spoken to him to congratulate him on making the team. Lupica today . With Nick Adenhart's death, Joba Chamberlain gets look at tragedy from the other side ] This time the gifted young baseball pitcher wasn't the drunk driver, the way Joba Chamberlain was. This time the young pitcher, Nick Adenhart of the Angels, fresh off six scoreless innings against the A's, a kid with everything ahead of him the way it is supposed to be ahead of Chamberlain, was the victim of an alleged drunk driver. This is how it happens with drunk driving when the policeman doesn't pull you over in time. So Nick Adenhart is dead at the age of 22. The police said the man who caused the accident, another 22-year-old named Andrew Gallo, somebody with another DUI on his record already, driving with a suspended license, was under the influence of alcohol when his mini-van ran a red light a few hours after Nick Adenhart made his fourth major league start. Sometimes these stories end up with the kind of pictures we saw of Joba Chamberlain, the police video showing Chamberlain trying to walk a straight line and trying to make conversation with the officer who pulled him over, about Yogi Berra and everything else. He told the officer he was a New York Yankee. Adenhart was a Los Angeles Angel, who had fought back so hard from injury and once again made himself a young guy to watch, a young guy good enough to get a start the first week of the season. "He wasn't an extreme talent," his agent, Scott Boras, said at an emotional press conference Thursday in Anaheim, Boras sitting there between Angels manager Mike Scioscia and general manager Tony Reagins. "He fought to get here." Tony Reagins talked about the young man's poise and said, "He had a lot of energy, but he didn't show it." Adenhart was a passenger in the car and two others were killed, so this isn't just a story about a young athlete dying too soon. This is about all who die in this senseless way. This story about drinking and driving that never changes no matter how the night ends: The drunk behind the wheel always having the potential to be the most dangerous guy in the world. This wasn't the way it ended for Joba on Highway 77, south of Lincoln, Neb., driving his BMW with an open bottle of whiskey next to him near the intersection of Old Cheney Rd., going 71 in a 55 mph zone. Maybe now, after a $400 fine and nine months' probation and the loss of his driver's license for 60 days - this after some court dates got postponed around his spring training schedule - Chamberlain fully realizes how truly lucky he really was last October. What Joba Chamberlain knows for sure is that the pictures of himself on the front pages of the New York papers and in that video are nothing compared to the ones from Fullerton, what was left of the car in which Nick Adenhart was riding before Gallo ran that red light, before Gallo's mini-van went crashing into that silver Mitsubishi, before he was booked on suspicion of murder, felony DUI and felony vehicular manslaughter. Here is what most baseball fans don't know about Adenhart if they're not fans of the Angels. He came out of Williamsport High School in Silver Spring, Md. Five years ago, everybody thought he was going to be a high pick in the draft, because he was one of those kids with a big arm. But then right before the draft, he suffered a bad elbow injury, one of those injuries that would require reconstructive surgery. The Angels stayed with him, though, selecting him in the 14th round. The kid was thinking about having Tommy John surgery and going off to pitch for the University of North Carolina when he had recovered, make himself into a prospect for somebody else all over again. It turned into a wonderful story from there, because of the team's belief in the kid and his trust in the team. The Angels convinced him to sign with them, for a $700,000 bonus, and do his rehab under the care of their doctors and trainers. He did. That is the fight that Scott Boras talked about Thursday when he was there with Scioscia and Reagins to talk about Nick Adenhart's death at Orangethorpe and Lemon in Fullerton. He made his first start with the Angels last May, and then there were some injuries to Angels starters this spring and there was Adenhart against the A's on Wednesday night. Six scoreless innings. No decision. His lifetime record in the big leagues stayed at 1-0. He was with some friends after that. They wanted to go dancing after the game. Four of them in the Mitsubishi, Gallo and a passenger in the red mini-van. Then Adenhart wasn't a baseball pitcher with possibilities, with a future, he was another victim of drunk-driving in America. The way it is alleged that the man Donte Stallworth of the Browns struck and killed on MacArthur Causeway in Miami was a victim of drunk-driving. And Jim Leyritz, an old Yankee World Series home run hero, is in jail awaiting trial because he has been accused of DUI manslaughter. Joba isn't the only young athlete who ever got himself over the legal limit for alcohol and thought he was just perfect to drive home. Or to the next bar. But now he knows for sure where the trip can end when it doesn't end off to the side of Highway 77 in Lincoln. One kind of ending for him, one kind of ending for Nick Adenhart, as sad an ending as we could ever know about in April, which is supposed to be about beginnings in baseball.

="John Cougar Lunchbucket":25h9bpe3]Wait'll we face an opponent with a good lineup. Sheesh[/quote:25h9bpe3] I've been reading the Cincinnati Enquirer and message boards out there and that has been a topic , the difference in depth of both clubs. they are wondering where the home runs are going to come form. Their lineup today should not be beating the Mets , of course you can't win them all but his game was tough to listen to. Starting pitching after Santana is obviously a question. GYC Apr 09 2009 02:12 PM I feel as if we have only one reliable starter. I don't trust Maine yet, and I'll never trust Livan. I'm getting the feeling that this is going to be a loooooong season, barring some miraculous turn-around/consistency from Ollie and if Pelfrey can somehow manage to get by on one pitch like last season. Edgy DC Apr 09 2009 02:21 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 09 2009 02:22 PM What is this word "reliable"? Ron Darling won 99 games for the Mets and was never reliable --- at least not in the sense that I think people are using the word. I'm just looking for better pitchers than other pitchers. There are only a very few aces. We're lucky to have one. Go for talent and depth, and maybe we'll find another. Someday. TransMonk Apr 09 2009 02:22 PM Based on history: for every start that Ollie has like the one he had today he will give us a gem (likely against the Braves). If Maine looks decent tomorrow, I'll feel better about today. I still feel that if our 1-4 pitchers can put up similar numbers to last season, we will be fine. At least Livan is durable and predictable...which will make him easier to watch for me than Perez and Maine. HahnSolo Apr 09 2009 02:51 PM Other than Ollie, is there really anybody to blow raspberries at after these first three games. The offense seems to be clicking. Well, we could have done with fewer LOB, but the bats showed up. The bullpen has been OK. yes, it would have been nice for O'Day to get out of that inning today, and for them to not make a 9-4 game into a white-knuckler. But I'll take 2 outta 3 on the road anytime, anywhere. John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 09 2009 02:59 PM I'm not unhappy with the outcomes -- 2 of 3 is the best you could expect -- I'm just struck by the fact that the Reds when all is said and done might have the worst O in the NL and put up 17 runs in these last two games, off a variety of arms. Yuck! DocTee Apr 09 2009 03:02 PM ]Wait'll we face an opponent with a good lineup. This weekend's opponent, for example. OlerudOwned Apr 09 2009 03:18 PM Man, everyone is really ripping on Cincy's lineup. Votto and Bruce are blooming big time mashers, Phillips and Ramon Hernandez are two of the better offensive players at their respective positions. Encarnacion has some serious pop and Hairston was a pretty useful player last season. They're certainly no all-star team, but they ain't a bunch of sniffles either. I'm going to reserve any panic about Perez for a few weeks, while muttering curses on the WBC under my breath. metsguyinmichigan Apr 09 2009 05:14 PM No complaints from me. I'll take two of every three just fine. It was an early getaway day game after a long night. Ollie did what Ollie does. He'll probably get out first no-hitter then give up eight runs in his next start. Cincy is a better club than people give it credit for. Farmer Ted Apr 09 2009 05:26 PM On pace for 106 wins. smg58 Apr 09 2009 05:28 PM I'm betting the Mets aren't the only team Joey Votto goes to town on this season. Without making a detailed assessment, I'd take the Reds lineup ahead of Houston's, San Diego's, Washington's, and Pittsburgh's. Maybe Colorado's as well since Holliday is gone. Number 6 Apr 09 2009 10:39 PM I'd take it over San Fran, as well. Now we're at almost half the teams in the NL. Edgy DC Apr 10 2009 07:08 AM I'm calling a tie with Atlanta also, depending on who you think is the abler rookie --- Jordan Schafer or Chris Dickerson. John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 10 2009 08:42 AM Geez. I've been on the Joey Votto Bandwagon from Day 1. But the fact remains the Reds had a below average O last year and are coming back without their best offensive player in Dunn. The point of course, wasn't to quantify the Reds' bad O but highlight the Mets' poor pitching. The amount of hits and walks they Mets surrendered these guys might have looked far worse had we been matched against, say, Philly or Chicago. That's all I was saying. batmagadanleadoff Apr 10 2009 08:51 AM The '86 Mets, with Sid and Aguilera as their back of the rotation starters, lost to every singe team during the regular season. So why shouldn't this year's version? Can't win 'em all. John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 10 2009 08:52 AM The Mets pitched poorly in 2 of these 3 games. Oh, and: ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":wp3iao0n]I'm not unhappy with the outcomes -- 2 of 3 is the best you could expect...[/quote:wp3iao0n] HahnSolo Apr 10 2009 10:34 AM ="smg58":1lvyjxj3]I'm betting the Mets aren't the only team Joey Votto goes to town on this season. Without making a detailed assessment, I'd take the Reds lineup ahead of Houston's, San Diego's, Washington's, and Pittsburgh's. Maybe Colorado's as well since Holliday is gone.[/quote:1lvyjxj3] I might, might be able to make a case for the Nats, when healthy: C Flores 1b N. Johnson 2b Belliard ss Guzman 3b Zimmerman LF Dunn CF Milledge RF Kearns that aint too shabby batmagadanleadoff Apr 10 2009 04:45 PM Not-So Quality Start, but Enough By Ben Shpigel MIAMI GARDENS, Fla. � A quality start, as coined by my friend and esteemed colleague John Lowe, is awarded to a pitcher who pitches at least six innings and permits no more than three earned runs. The following teams have three quality starts: Pittsburgh, San Diego, Los Angeles Angels and Kansas City. The Mets, through three games, have none. None of the Mets� starters got through the sixth inning in Cincinnati. Considering the team won two of three there, that is not the end of the world. But the early stumbles of Mike Pelfrey and Oliver Perez have forced Jerry Manuel to use more of his bullpen than he would like, and the Mets� relievers pitched 11 innings against the Reds. The relief corps may get another workout tonight, when John Maine pitches, and potentially Saturday, too, when Livan Hernandez debuts. Just something to think about. http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/tag/mets/

Edgy DC wrote: ="metirish"]Edgy DC wrote: Poll By Matthew Cerrone - Apr 9, 2009 2:45 pm The Mets are down three runs going in to the seventh inning, based on your gut feeling, will they come back to win ... No Well, my point was... forget it. I already have...

Edgy DC wrote: Poll By Matthew Cerrone - Apr 9, 2009 2:45 pm The Mets are down three runs going in to the seventh inning, based on your gut feeling, will they come back to win ... No

TransMonk wrote: I called it after it happened Sac fly plates one as the bottom of the order manufactures a run out of a leadoff double. Oh well you're a dick then....joking of course....

TransMonk wrote: Church = doubles machine. Gotta get at least one here. You called it......double for Church

Janish is pronounced Yonish if anyone cares.....I don't ...

O'DAY becomes Met #?

Sac fly from Phillips ...6 - 4 Reds

Darren O'Day getting ready Howie says.

OlerudOwned wrote: ="apmorris"]checkin in. listening via 700 WLW in Cinninati on GameDay (free). Very hokey. Base hit! http://www.freebaseballradio.com/NYmets.html Found this website yesterday. The WCSS 1490 stream has been crystal clear Howie and Wayne for both games. Dude , that's huge from you.....thanks for the links....Howie never sounded better.