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I really hope that these misplays by Murphy won't have a cumulative effect where he starts thinking about them and is going out the the field with that on his mind. He looked lost in the dugout after that play last night.

="John Cougar Lunchbucket":tzgvm407]Jeff is a complete tool. I can;t be the only one who gets that impression. I sorta see him as a Vince McMahon type.[/quote:tzgvm407] Oh I'm with you , I was being sarcastic....you know he has season tickets in the Pepsi Porch , it reminds him of Tiger Stadium..... Edgy DC Apr 16 2009 07:45 AM ="G-Fafif":9s02mgja]Rachel Robinson, Jackie's widow, said she didn't spend a lot of time at the Ebbets Field rotunda. It wasn't the time or place where they would hold a meet-and-greet for the Robinsons. She would go right to her seat, where she heard the worst the fans could verbally hurl at her husband.[/quote:9s02mgja] Was Robinson regularly abused with "the worst" at Ebbets field? G-Fafif Apr 16 2009 07:53 AM ="Edgy DC":uaz5b2d8]="G-Fafif":uaz5b2d8]Rachel Robinson, Jackie's widow, said she didn't spend a lot of time at the Ebbets Field rotunda. It wasn't the time or place where they would hold a meet-and-greet for the Robinsons. She would go right to her seat, where she heard the worst the fans could verbally hurl at her husband.[/quote:uaz5b2d8] Was Robinson regularly abused with "the worst" at Ebbets field?[/quote:uaz5b2d8] When did Ebbets Field move to Cincinnati, St. Louis and Philadelphia? Benjamin Grimm Apr 16 2009 07:57 AM Well, if it could move to Queens... Frayed Knot Apr 16 2009 08:05 AM ] ... we don't have room to do busts like we did before Because lord knows how much room those things take up. Benjamin Grimm Apr 16 2009 08:08 AM So what's happening to the busts? Is MeiGray selling them? Edgy DC Apr 16 2009 08:10 AM I'm planning another night raid. batmagadanleadoff Apr 16 2009 08:21 AM ="Frayed Knot"]] ... we don't have room to do busts like we did before Because lord knows how much room those things take up. I thought that quote was disturbing, myself. If there's no room for busts, then there can't be much room for a Mets HOF done right. It's Hot dogs over History. Edgy DC Apr 16 2009 08:27 AM How about here: HahnSolo Apr 16 2009 08:27 AM What makes being a Met fan who wants honors, monuments, and tributes to his team in their stadium "short-sighted"? HahnSolo Apr 16 2009 08:29 AM Those busts at Shea fit into a display that was smaller than your average walk-in closet. batmagadanleadoff Apr 16 2009 08:31 AM ="Benjamin Grimm":3fm5ql4w]Yes, the Giants and Dodgers are in California now, but Mel Ott, Christy Mathewson, John McGraw, Bill Terry, Pee Wee Reese, Jackie Robinson, Wilbert Robinson, Zach Wheat and all those other guys still belong to New York.[/quote:3fm5ql4w] One of the flaws in this otherwise valid point is that the NY Giant fans probably hated the B'klyn Dodgers -- even more than we might hate the MFY's, given that the old NY rivals played each other 18 times a season. Ironically, if not fittingly, I seem to be in the minority on this one, though. HahnSolo Apr 16 2009 08:31 AM ="Edgy DC":3kwmr6o7]How about here: [/quote:3kwmr6o7] Are the throngs so large at Touch that they need the blue rope to keep people in line? Well, at least the cord is blue. batmagadanleadoff Apr 16 2009 08:34 AM ="HahnSolo":3dt3qv7d]Those busts at Shea fit into a display that was smaller than your average walk-in closet.[/quote:3dt3qv7d] They probably don't want to "waste" the real estate on something that won't generate additional income. Edgy DC Apr 16 2009 08:38 AM ="HahnSolo":2hnipag0]="Edgy DC":2hnipag0]How about here: [/quote:2hnipag0] Are the throngs so large at Touch that they need the blue rope to keep people in line? Well, at least the cord is blue.[/quote:2hnipag0] I like how Alyssa's target audience --- dyed hair, perm, tight jeans --- is walking by without turning her head, while dorkus from New Yorkus in his backward cap/ski-cap/yarmulke is wandering in to check out the insignia thongs. Hopefully, the boutique won't last the season. seawolf17 Apr 16 2009 08:51 AM "WE DON'T HAVE ROOM FOR THE BUSTS?!?!??" Are you effing kidding me, Jeff? Screw you! You built a whole goddam building and you can't find room to honor your own Hall of Fame busts? No wonder Wally Matthews hates this team. ="HahnSolo":3ngiw1aa]What makes being a Met fan who wants honors, monuments, and tributes to his team in their stadium "short-sighted"?[/quote:3ngiw1aa] Exactly! God, I hate this shit. metirish Apr 16 2009 08:57 AM " We do have room for one bust " Edgy DC Apr 16 2009 09:09 AM This is a work in progress, and Jeff has shown himself to be a reactive manager. Why don't we give him something to react to? G-Fafif Apr 16 2009 10:19 AM Sometimes I'm surprised they had room for the actual Mets. MFS62 Apr 16 2009 10:39 AM ="G-Fafif":3129gw3s]Sometimes I'm surprised they had room for the actual Mets.[/quote:3129gw3s] As long as they were all a different height. Later Frayed Knot Apr 16 2009 10:39 AM ]Are the throngs so large at Touch that they need the blue rope to keep people in line? OK who (besides me) read that as thongs so large that they need the blue rope ... ? metsguyinmichigan Apr 16 2009 11:47 AM This might get me in a little trouble, and maybe I'm the only one. But to be totally honest, I didn't like the busts. Didn't like the style. And I wonder if creating a bust like that was expensive and difficult, and slowed down the number of inductions. And I didn't like that it wasn't readily accessible to a lot of fans. And the writing on the display cases was ugly. I love the idea of a hall of fame, and think there absolutely needs to be one. Cleveland and Philly both have neat areas in centerfield with the kind of plaques that I imagine Jeff is talking about. Lots of people walk through the area, and each plaque tells why the person on it is important. The Mets have a chance here to start from scratch, and if they come up with something like Cleveland's Heritage Park, [url:3o4t75mg]http://cleveland.indians.mlb.com/cle/ballpark/heritage_park.jsp[/url:3o4t75mg] then I'm OK with that. Ideally, they've have something like the Reds have in Cincy, which is just amazing. But I don't think any other team has done that well. seawolf17 Apr 16 2009 11:56 AM Word on the street is that YSIII has a wall of autographed baseballs from as many living MFYs as they could find. I think that's a phenomenal idea, and I wish the Mets had thought of it first. Edgy DC Apr 16 2009 12:25 PM ="metsguyinmichigan":1l6s2tnk]Didn't like the style. And I wonder if creating a bust like that was expensive and difficult, and slowed down the number of inductions.[/quote:1l6s2tnk] I suspect managerial indifference slowed it down, but benign neglect has perhaps been better than misguided engagement. My main HoF problem was that, in the post-doubleheader era, ceremonies have occurred before game time with the seats scarcely populated. I distinctly remembered being embarassed by the paucity of audience for Jerry Koosman's induction, which may have been Rube Walker's last time on the field. G-Fafif Apr 16 2009 01:04 PM ="seawolf17":2pflv7ph]Word on the street is that YSIII has a wall of autographed baseballs from as many living MFYs as they could find. I think that's a phenomenal idea, and I wish the Mets had thought of it first.[/quote:2pflv7ph] Saw it on the YEECH pregame show and, yeah, it's a brilliant idea beautifully executed. They're even summoning family members and whoever they can find to rustle up balls for the departed MFYs. On the other hand, the Mets would appreciate it if you'd stop thinking about Brian Ostrosser while enjoying your world-class Citi Field experience. G-Fafif Apr 16 2009 01:07 PM ="metsguyinmichigan":224d4oqf]This might get me in a little trouble, and maybe I'm the only one. But to be totally honest, I didn't like the busts. The Mets have a chance here to start from scratch, and if they come up with something like Cleveland's Heritage Park, then I'm OK with that. [...] Ideally, they've have something like the Reds have in Cincy, which is just amazing. But I don't think any other team has done that well.[/quote:224d4oqf] I never thought the busts were optimal, but if you've got 'em, flaunt 'em. I love that, as you pointed out, Cleon the elder is portrayed whereas all the other Famers are in their prime. I like trying to figure out why; I don't necessarily need to know. Add the Baltimore museum, opened a few years ago next to Camden Yards, as something to be studied by the Mets and attended by anybody in the neighborhood. G-Fafif Apr 16 2009 01:09 PM ="Edgy DC":1s2trfoy]My main HoF problem was that, in the post-doubleheader era, ceremonies have occurred before game time with the seats scarcely populated. I distinctly remembered being embarassed by the paucity of audience for Jerry Koosman's induction, which may have been Rube Walker's last time on the field.[/quote:1s2trfoy] Since 2000, whenever they do a big event, like '06 reunion or All-Amazin' Team or Ralph Night, they move it back to the start time on the ticket. That way people are indeed in their seats. They didn't do it in '02 for Agee's induction and it was a little depressing. You might recall Seaver criticized Valentine mightily for not having his team in the dugout (they were having a meeting that saved their season, thus that 2002 pennant that flies high and proud over Citi Field). Seaver was correct. Centerfield Apr 16 2009 01:34 PM Jackie Robinson played for the Brooklyn Dodgers. They are the only team for which a tribute to Jackie would be a perfect fit. Unfortunately, that team doesn't exist anymore. It sucks, but it's reality. Sometimes there are no good answers. The Los Angeles Dodgers and the New York Mets are probably the best options left. Arguments can be given for each team, but for every argument, there is a valid argument against. If I had to choose one of the two, I'd probably say the Dodgers are more appropriate. But I don't feel strongly one way or the other. Which brings us to the rotunda. Does it make sense to have a Jackie Robinson tribute be the signature of the Mets new home stadium? And the answer, in my opinion, is no. Whether or not the Dodgers are a more appropriate team, a featuring a Brooklyn Dodger as the centerpiece of the new home of the New York Mets is, at best, awkward. Centerfield Apr 16 2009 01:37 PM ="HahnSolo":3e4tnjsm]Those busts at Shea fit into a display that was smaller than your average walk-in closet.[/quote:3e4tnjsm] Maybe that's the problem. I like bigger busts. Benjamin Grimm Apr 16 2009 01:43 PM Would it make more sense for a statue of Connie Mack to be in Philadelphia or Oakland? Should Walter Johnson be honored in Washington, or in Minneapolis? My votes would go to Philadelphia and Washington. So I think it's more appropriate to honor Jackie Robinson in New York than in Los Angeles. But I think the big rotunda at the Mets ballpark is a bit much. Were it up to me, Citi Field would not look like Ebbets Field. It wouldn't be retro at all. And there would be a nice big memorial to Jackie Robinson in Brooklyn somewhere. Maybe somewhere near the anchorage of the Brooklyn Bridge, so that people could walk there from Manhattan. Edgy DC Apr 16 2009 01:48 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 16 2009 04:33 PM What should be noted as part of the rotunda display is that --- as good as he was at baseball, football, and track --- his best sport might have been underwear basketball. Thinking back to my days in Joe Ellner's basement, that might have been my best sport also. Swan Swan H Apr 16 2009 01:52 PM Michael Jordan's Hanes ads are clearly a tribute to Jackie Robinson's underwear basketball career. Frayed Knot Apr 16 2009 01:53 PM ="Centerfield"]Maybe that's the problem. I like bigger busts. ... and he can not lie. ]Thinking back to my days in Joe Ellner's basement, [underwear basketball] might have been my best sport also. TMI Fman99 Apr 16 2009 04:04 PM Who farted? Fman99 Apr 16 2009 04:06 PM ="G-Fafif":1e8206y9]="metsguyinmichigan":1e8206y9]This might get me in a little trouble, and maybe I'm the only one. But to be totally honest, I didn't like the busts. The Mets have a chance here to start from scratch, and if they come up with something like Cleveland's Heritage Park, then I'm OK with that. [...] Ideally, they've have something like the Reds have in Cincy, which is just amazing. But I don't think any other team has done that well.[/quote:1e8206y9] I never thought the busts were optimal, but if you've got 'em, flaunt 'em. I love that, as you pointed out, Cleon the elder is portrayed whereas all the other Famers are in their prime. I like trying to figure out why; I don't necessarily need to know. Add the Baltimore museum, opened a few years ago next to Camden Yards, as something to be studied by the Mets and attended by anybody in the neighborhood.[/quote:1e8206y9] I am a big fan of busts. HahnSolo Apr 17 2009 06:56 AM After my first trip to Citi and the rotunda, my feelings have somewhat changed. I was never a big fan of the entire rotunda being dedicated to Jackie. however, having seen it up close, it is done in a quite classy way, and it is completely un-intrusive. You are not clubbed over the head with Jackie, Jackie, Jackie. It's there, yes, and it is prominent, but you can just as easily avoid it. seawolf17 Apr 17 2009 08:42 AM I love fman. He's added a dynamic to the Pool that can't be quantified. He's our own Cap'n Intangibles. themetfairy Apr 17 2009 09:17 AM ="seawolf17":38irfm09]I love fman. He's added a dynamic to the Pool that can't be quantified. He's our own Cap'n Intangibles.[/quote:38irfm09] But way less slimy than the MFY's version. seawolf17 Apr 17 2009 11:46 AM Have you met him? Don't count out his sliminess. We did a lot of weird things in the basement of the Blake B Building. PiggiesTomatoes Apr 17 2009 04:53 PM ="seawolf17"]We did a lot of weird things in the basement of the Blake B Building. A Geneseo guy? cooby Apr 17 2009 09:48 PM Funny, all of it. Kong76 Apr 17 2009 09:52 PM FK: OK who (besides me) read that as thongs so large that they need the blue rope ... ? <<< I thought it was a typo too. G-Fafif Apr 17 2009 10:10 PM It never stops amusing me that Fman proclaims his love of big busts and his avatar is of that little angel. MFS62 Apr 18 2009 06:56 AM ="G-Fafif":3jk8wpwh]It never stops amusing me that Fman proclaims his love of big busts and his avatar is of that little angel.[/quote:3jk8wpwh] Don't start getting all sweet on us when this thread was going in an entirely different direction. Later

I thought Keith was spot on when showing how Wright had set himself up for the cut off throw he was expecting. Was that just a bad play by Murphy or lack of baseball instincts?

Jeff seems very enthusiastic about this. I can't wait to see the results.

Kong76 wrote: An rbi pop fly to right. I don't know what irish meant but it just lined up this way in a dead IGT later in the 7th. A quite IGT . I was talking about Murphy's "cut off" throw that went to Reyes and not Wright.......

What the fuck was that from Murphy?

Jesus , can the Mets get some hits here?

I'd put Castillo hitting second just to shake things up .

I remember posting from an article a few years ago about patrons complaining that security personnel would chain in sections so people could not leave their seats during the playing of that song.

Do you guys still have the blue tarp? , that might prove useful.

What I don't like is that it was announced last week that Sheffield would start tonight...why announce that then?

Suit: Yankees force fans to sit for 'God Bless America' THE ASSOCIATED PRESS 2:21 PM EDT, April 15, 2009 A baseball fan says he was ejected from Yankee Stadium for leaving his seat to use the bathroom while "God Bless America" played. Bradford Campeau-Laurion filed a federal lawsuit Wednesday against New York City and the Yankees. The lawsuit contends he was made a victim of political and religious discrimination on Aug. 26. It says two police officers who ejected him were enforcing a Yankees policy that keeps spectators in their seats during the song. A spokeswoman says the city law office has no immediate comment. A Yankees representative did not immediately return a call

I apologize for bringing it up , it was nothing more really than a smart ass comment.

Isn't Chick Corea a singer, I hope he's off key tonight.

Wright 4 Castillo 1 Rodriguez 1 Green 1 Putz 1

Why not , he played for them.

I thought Wally might be gone when James Dolan bought Newsday but Wally is exactly the kind of moron that Dolan would like.

See the rotunda makes sense on nights like tonight....not as much sense as it would if it were in LA but still.

Is this a Mets thing or a Modells thing or a bit of both? I ask because maybe Doc will be seen around more now.

One fucking game Wally .....one game is all...when Wright hit the three run shot Monday night I thought it sounded loud....I'm not sure any stadium will ever be like Shea was when it was full and the place would shake.

JCL has a chalk contact on facebook so that's a help.

If Steve Finley isn't busy we could have him stand looking bewildered in the spot where he thought he caught Pratt's ball.

I think if the Wilpon's could serve us something in the drinks at Citi Field to make us forget Shea Stadium ever existed they would .

="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":2z0r4xnn]"And that's why YOU, burgundy-clad hyena masquerading as an usher, who directed me to what turned out to be the THIRD closest bathroom to my ticketed seating area, and shrugged when I came back to hear your explanation... are the WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD."[/quote:2z0r4xnn] Perfect OlerudOwned Apr 14 2009 03:18 PM Olbermann fudged up the detail on Bloomy's ball. It wasn't fouled off by Tatis, Bell literally threw the damn thing through the bottom of the screen. G-Fafif Apr 14 2009 03:36 PM ="Frayed Knot":1yskogoi]The column, in other words, sounds like he came up with the idea first and then tried to shoe-horn into it whatever material he could mine.[/quote:1yskogoi] Walter Silva not in the media guide is indeed a bit of a reach. But I'm with KO on flyovers, CF and in general. I said the same thing at the Home Opener in '07 regarding our proximity to a major airport. I get an immense American flag for the national anthem. I get the national anthem out of tradition. I've never gotten military flyovers for sporting events, unless we're securing the permiter of the parking lot. In which case, we may have bigger problems than obscure Walter Silva shutting us down for four innings. apmorris Apr 14 2009 03:48 PM Re: Counting Down the Bizarre from Last Night Remember: He is a nerd. A real nerd. And a Yankee Fan. Could be worse. Dan Patrick would've wrote about Marisa Tomei's hairstyle and what she was wearing. G-Fafif Apr 14 2009 03:56 PM Re: Counting Down the Bizarre from Last Night ="apmorris":wnnmp6rx]...Marisa Tomei's hairstyle and what she was wearing.[/quote:wnnmp6rx] I hear she likes short bald men. SteveJRogers Apr 14 2009 04:00 PM ="G-Fafif":1ujkcl62]="Frayed Knot":1ujkcl62]The column, in other words, sounds like he came up with the idea first and then tried to shoe-horn into it whatever material he could mine.[/quote:1ujkcl62] Walter Silva not in the media guide is indeed a bit of a reach. [/quote:1ujkcl62] You also won't find potential future HOFer Gary Sheffield in the Mets Media Guide either. Comes with the territory of having roster info from late Feb/early March when you need to produce a massive tome. Should be noted though that Sheffield did make the 2009 Mets Yearbook though, but that's another story. Gwreck Apr 14 2009 04:17 PM The thing that got me about the flyover was the juxtaposition with the Mets talking about how Citi Field was a "green" ballpark. Yes, I know the Mets and the Military are separate entities. But it got me wondering about how much fuel was wasted by doing the flyover. Edgy DC Apr 14 2009 05:22 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 14 2009 06:23 PM I agree that flyovers are seemingly overkill, wasteful, obnoxious, and jingoistic, but what we're talking about here is In ascending order of fulfilling The McCarver Rule ("At every game you will see something, or at least a combination of things, you have never seen before"), here are the top unique or unlikely events from the park's opening... . In fact, the wry observation aside, flyovers at sporting events happen all the time. Nymr83 Apr 14 2009 06:22 PM ]2. Six innings earlier, a stray cat desperately trying to exit the field leaped onto the low fence directly in front of New York Governor David Paterson i was happy to see that the cats made it over from the old building. i didnt even realize that was patterson, but him or someone with him JUMPED scared when that cat came near them.

It seems to me that people are going out of their way to put Citi Field down and the Mets with it. I'll take the word of people here and not give a fiddlers fuck what Beningo and his buddy think. I can't wait to go.