I'm going with 2015. I really like the young arms in the minors and think that we'll have enough payroll freed up by 2014 to buy some FA offense to go with anyone we have left on the roster. I also think that although it won't be directly his fault, Terry and the other coaches won't survive 2013 and what could be 3 consecutive losing seasons under his management. 2014 will show flashes of things to come under a new skipper and with the young starters coming of age and some offense additions via FA. 2015 will be the time to shine. Of course, I'm not ruling out anything in the next couple of years, and I'll still hope for the best. But in looking at what we've got, and what we could have in the near future, 2015 looks about right to me. Also, I don't agree with Law's assessment that the "toughness" of the NL East is going to effect the timeline.