A Boy Named Seo

Frayed Knot wrote: Having gotten that off my chest, the Jays on said to be on the verge of finding a new employer for RHP JA Happ although the specifics on his new address have yet to be revealed. The Yanx, the Cubs, and the Brewers are said to be hot on the trail of his tail. Looks like Happ to the Yankees is done for Brandon Drury + other stuff.

I'd be happy for Manfred to field questions on the Wilpons every time he steps in front of a podium or a room full of reporters. That MLB did nothing but loan the Wilpons money post-Madoff doesn't mean that the league should do nothing about them now.

Frayed Knot wrote: I do hope that this remains a non-NYM trading deadline thread and that, should they decide to deal off major parts to the current team, that those moves would be worthy of their own threads rather than be lumped into some all-purpose jumble. Having gotten that off my chest, the Jays on said to be on the verge of finding a new employer for RHP JA Happ although the specifics on his new address have yet to be revealed. The Yanx, the Cubs, and the Brewers are said to be hot on the trail of his tail. Yes, non-Mets. I'll edit the title to make it clear. Looks like the Brewers just got 34-year old closer Joakim Soria from the White Sox. In exchange, the ChiSox get the Brewers #13 prospect, 22-year old lefty Kodi Medeiros, who has pitched to a 3.14 ERA and 9.3 K/9 this year at AA. MLBTR sez he is "one piece" in the deal, so the White Sox farm might be getting even deeper. Um, nice. haul.

Frayed Knot wrote: That the Padres were in town this week makes it a logical time for writers to think about possible trades. The NY Post took advantage of their visit this week to do just that suggesting that "... as the Padres’ advance indicates, plenty of interest will still exist in the offseason [and they] are particularly poised to act because they have six of the top 33 prospects, according to MLB Pipeline, and 10 of the top 100. Also, under GM A.J. Preller, they have shown boldness in going for it ... such as when they went for Craig Kimbrel, Matt Kemp, James Shields and Justin Upton, and signing Eric Hosmer last offseason. I should probably add here that none of those moves actually worked but perhaps it's still a part of their mindset. Sure. If anything, those failures explain why the Pads seem to be trying to trade for young, controllable guys instead of "going for it" with big FAs. Seems a lot smarter, given their market and finances. And regarding the Mets and Padres just playing a series, trade talk afterword doesn't surprise me at all. It always blows me away the number of trades at the winter meetings just cause the GMs are all under the same roof. Like these guys don't have phones or something. Put 2 GMs in the same room and they're probably gonna talk about trading dudes, even if most of it is just bullshitting. Frayed Knot wrote: Also, according to the MLB.com mid-season update on prospects, the Padres have the #3 overall in Fernando Tatis Jr. Also the #s 15 in newly acquired (C/OF) Francisco Mejia; #29 2B/SS Luis Urias; #32 RHP Cal (son of Paul) Quantrill; and #33 RHP Michael Baez That's an impressive group although these things are always based on potential so you'd want to look into each to find out how far away, etc. Sometimes the higher the potential the farther (and therefore the less likely) a player is from reaching that level. Yes, 100% of trades for prospects will be based on potential, and these guys possess several who everyone regard as having a great deal of potential. They can trade 2 of their very best and still expect to have a bunch of young, very talented players ready for the show around the same time. If nothing at all happens, I still think the Padres make a great trading partner with Mets.

I know Machado and Britton got their own threads but there's bound to be a bunch more. We know the BoSox got Nathan Eovaldiearlier today, but the Rays just made another trade, sending Matt Andriese to the DBags to 2 more minor leaguers.

Panned by the critics, but I saw them on that tour so I hold it in pretty good regard!

Trade 'em all! ¡Adios Amigos!

41Forever wrote: 41Forever wrote: I think pitching is what you build around, and a 25-yearold elite starter can be elite for another five to seven years. And he's perfect for New York. I get trading off soon-to-be free agents. But unless a talent like Mike Trout is coming back, I don't want to move Syndergaard. Mike Trout is already the best player in baseball, better and more accomplished than most hall of famers at his age. So no one is getting Mike Trout or Mookie Betts or a current megastar of Major League Baseball for Noah Syndergaard. Now. The Mets are bad. They were bad last year. If one thinks the Mets can hang onto Syndergaard and be a championship contender next year and moving forward, then there's no reason to trade him. If one thinks the Mets will not be a championship contender next year and moving forward, then there is motivation to trade him for multiple, potential stars. To state the obvious: any trade has risk and there are no sure things with prospects. So if one thinks trading Syndergaard is the right move to make, then try to get elite prospects with less risk, so you can hopefully turn one good thing into 3 or 4 good things in a year or 2. I don't think the Mets are going to compete for a championship next year or moving forward and I don't think they will increase payroll to overcome the shitload of shortcomings this team has. I think trading Syndegaard for elite pieces is a very wise move. I get that as a rationale for trading de Grom, who is older. But if Syndergaard is just 25, he'd still be in his prime as all the years when things start to come back together, no? Yes, I agree with you. And the Pads interest in Noah is probably exactly for those reasons you cited. He is young and if they can get good in a year or two, he'll just be entering his prime. And they probably feel they have a deep enough system where they can part with some excellent pieces to get him and still become a good team in the near future. deGrom makes more sense for a team like the Dodgers or Brewers who wants to win NOW!!!! But if we could get Walker Buehler, Alex Verdugo and Keibert Ruiz for him, I'd make that trade, too. From the Mets standpoint, we've been unable to get over with deGrom and Syndergaard. If we keep either or both of those dudes, then we need to fill other holes via trade or free agency, which the Mets have tried to do, but I think they've done so shittily and cheaply. Littering the roster with young, high-ceiling players can work. The Cubs did it, won a ring. The Astros did it, won a ring. No guarantees, of course, but it definitely can work. Plus, it's cheap as hell for a few years, which the Wilpons will love.

41Forever wrote: I think pitching is what you build around, and a 25-yearold elite starter can be elite for another five to seven years. And he's perfect for New York. I get trading off soon-to-be free agents. But unless a talent like Mike Trout is coming back, I don't want to move Syndergaard. Mike Trout is already the best player in baseball, better and more accomplished than most hall of famers at his age. So no one is getting Mike Trout or Mookie Betts or a current megastar of Major League Baseball for Noah Syndergaard. Now. The Mets are bad. They were bad last year. If one thinks the Mets can hang onto Syndergaard and be a championship contender next year and moving forward, then there's no reason to trade him. If one thinks the Mets will not be a championship contender next year and moving forward, then there is motivation to trade him for multiple, potential stars. To state the obvious: any trade has risk and there are no sure things with prospects. So if one thinks trading Syndergaard is the right move to make, then try to get elite prospects with less risk, so you can hopefully turn one good thing into 3 or 4 good things in a year or 2. I don't think the Mets are going to compete for a championship next year or moving forward and I don't think they will increase payroll to overcome the shitload of shortcomings this team has. I think trading Syndegaard for elite pieces is a very wise move.

It's super important that we extend the Metly Tatis family line.

Frayed Knot wrote: Ashie62 wrote: Fernando Tatis Jr McKenzie Gore & Urias are all top 100 MLB Prospects. Just make sure to look back through previous Top-100 lists and see how many of those names you don't recognize because they never became anything, or even those names that you do recognize but are playing niche roles rather than as stars. Of course.

Ceetar wrote: fuck prospects. None of them will approach being as good as Thor is. Keep him, win next year. It's not absurd. Thor was a heralded prospect we acquired who became good. Prospects become good all the time. Some of them great. Get several heralded ones and we could not only replace his production, but get better at multiple positions. It's not absurd.

Some internet place said the Padres are interested in Syndergaard. This is exactly the type of team the Mets should be talking to if they were to entertain trading Noah or Jake cause the Pads are loaded with high-end prospects. SD just landed top catching prospect Francisco Mejia from Cleveland in the trade for Brad Hand and Adam Cimber. This trade is a decent reference point as Cleveland gets control of Hand through 2020 (elite reliever and their main target in this trade) along with Cimber through 2023. Syndergaard is 25 and could not become a free agent until after the 2021 season, and I think it could be safely argued that he's more valuable than both Hand and Cimber combined. SO, what would you ask the Padres for in exchange for Noah Syndergaard? Clearly Fernando Tatis Jr. (their #1 prospect and MLB #3) is their top guy and third base is a black hole for the Mets. He just broke his thumb, but you start with him anyway for sure. McKenzie Gore is #2 in the system (and MLB's #13) is a 19-year old lefty the Pads drafted out of high school with the 3rd overall pick in the 2017 draft. Scouts goosh all over themselves talking about this guy, so I demand him, too. I think trying to pry Mejia, as well, would def be pushing it. But I'd say 'fuck it' and ask for the Pads #4 prospect, middle infielder Luis Urias(MLB #29) and then some unheralded A-ball lotto ticket. I think the Padres would prob say "no" first, but that's the kind of Chris Sale mega-return the Mets need if they're gonna trade one of these dudes. Out: Noah Syndergaard In: Fernando Tatis, Jr., McKenzie Gore, Luis Urias, A-Ball lotto ticket. I do this trade. Would you? What would you want back for Noah? What's realistic?

41Forever wrote: sharpie wrote: Probably not going to use McNeil against lefties right away. In a lost season where we already are selling, wouldn't it make sense to start the guy and see if he can hit lefties? Especially over Reyes, who might not be with the team in a month? Yes.

I thought this dude's name was Clayton "Ree-shard". Did I make that up?

Rain over, game on.

More "Lets see how this trade return compares to Familia's": Before the 2017 season, the Rays signed Nathan Eovaldi to a 2-year deal following TJ surgery. He didn't pitch at all in '17 and has a 93 ERA+ (4.26 ERA/4.28 FIP) in 58 innings this year. His salary this year is $2M, so the Red Sox are on the hook for whatever the pro-rated remainder of that is, less than half anyway. The Rays got the Red Sox #15 prospect for him, a 24-year old lefty who has a 2.89 ERA and has struck out 117 batters in 87.1 innings at AAA this year. Pretty goddamn good haul, I'd say!

Good Q! This is a shot from the Cafe 80s in 2015 Hill Valley (BTTF2), so pop culture icons from the decade, but I have no idea who. Green hat bearded guy Yakov Smirnoff?

Phillip Evans also gets called up and is starting at 3rd. Ty Kelly DFA'd. :'-( [tweet:11ky9nd8] [/tweet:11ky9nd8]

Sherman says Ty is going down. Jose Reyes not dead yet. The Jeff, BTW, is at .342 / .411 / .617 (1.028) with 19 homers in 384 PA across AA and AAA. Lets see what ya got, sonny. [tweet:29j32vtc] [/tweet:29j32vtc]

The Jeff gets the call-up.

The Reds sent money to pay the difference in Mesoraco's salary, but both teams still have to write the checks every month, I would imagine. If so, I don't think there's anything stopping the Mets (or the Reds in Harvey's case) to ask their potential trading parter to pay the remaining salary for these guys themselves and pocket that ca$h.

Stupid cancer indeed. I think if they end up trading Mesoraco, and if whatever team acquires him agrees to pay the rest of his salary, then it will appear that Jeff might be the new interim GM.

Griff Tannen, AKA Tommy Wilson, is the grandson of Biff Tannen, and according to Dr. Emmett Brown, he has bionic implants, which give him enhanced strength and may or may not be legal in professional baseball. Tommy Wilson at baseball practice with Hill Valley High: Despite photographic evidence to the contrary, Tommy Wilson is not a hitter, but a big-bodied, right-handed pitcher the Mets drafted with their 19th pick in the 2018 draft. According to Amazin Avenue, he went to St. Mary's College after high school, but since he's a slacker, he didn't play any college ball til he transferred to Pierce College in 2017. After a successful season there, he transferred again to perennial powerhouse Cal State Fullerton, where he went 7-0 with a 2.71 ERA, striking out 81 hitters in 89.2 innings and eventually finding his way to the Mets! Great Scott! He has since taken his 93 MPH fastball to Brooklyn and has not yet allowed a run in 6.1 innings in 2018. He's walked 3 and K'd 6. He's 22 years old so hopefully a rapid rise is in his future. And if things get rocky, we already know his grandpa Biff stole the DeLoreon in 1985, so alternate time lines where young Griff becomes a Major League legend are very very plausible. Fun little extra tidbit- I am one of his 27 followers on YouTube, where he posts really cool drone vids that he's shot. If this baseball thing doesn't work out... qgolq9oS2ns

seawolf17 wrote: Centerfield wrote: Well, the GM's of the other 29 teams will anyway. Just a matter of time until some radio comedian releases a prank call where Ricco agrees to trade deGrom for a dead squirrel and fifty bucks. That'll be on the last episode of "Who is America?" sandwiched between Palin and Cheney. Seriously, the timing could not have been worse for the team for Sandy to have to step down, limping into the deadline with the tripod interim GM. With Familia, I wonder if this trade was a unanimous "YES" from the 3 GMs, or if 2 out of 3 liked it or what. Such a strange structure with 3 guys sharing the final call.