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Just awesome. And that hair.

Edgy MD wrote: [fimg=750]https://metsinpeace.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/177153363.jpg[/fimg] This Adirondack baseball bat ad was shot in the NL locker during the 1969 ASG. [fimg=655]https://farm1.staticflickr.com/475/19678259516_2827475d95_o.jpg[/fimg]

That's what I used to love about the ASG. All those uniforms in one frame. Too bad that '79's not in color. 70's ASG pictures are begging for color.

d'Kong76 wrote: I thought there was only one [interloper] this time. Shamsky's SABR Bio is rather extensive and somewhere in here the author says he was cut in spring training from the Cards. http://sabr.org/bioproj/person/68fc8356 I think McCarver is a stretch, but I'm pretty sure he's not it. There's two interlopers even though the thread title claims just one. Here's what happened. About 80% of this thread is comprised of the same baseball cards I posted when the Mets and Cards played earlier this season. Shamsky wasn't in that older thread, because, you know, he's not a Met-Card. While I was making this second thread, I suddenly remembered that Shamsky appeared on a Topps card as a Cardinal. I remembered this from that thread I started about a year ago -- Wolves in Sheep's Clothing -- on players who appeared on a Topps card as a member of a team other than the Mets while in a Mets uniform. (As an aside, I'd link to that thread for your benefit if only this search engine behaved anywhere near functional. But this searcher is by far, no question about it, nothing even remotely close, the worst search engine I've ever encountered on any web site. A search that shouldn't take more than 30 seconds, especially when I'm positive of the search terms that should turn up that thread, might take me 10 minutes, or even likelier, forever. So I'm not even bothering.) Anyways, after suddenly recalling that Shamsky Card card, I added it to this card thread, along with other cards, forgetting in that moment, that Shamsky's an interloper as far as this thread is concerned. And that's why the thread title announces one interloper when, in fact, there are two. You got half the quiz. This entitles you to a Bob Miller '73 style Topps Padres card. If you identify the other interloper, you'll win a Kroger's 100th anniversary Keith Hernandez card. I took liberties with McCarver, who's technically an interloper, but not for the purposes of this quiz. His strong contributions to Met history merit his inclusion. Tim's no Met outsider. In the past, I've included Ralph Kiner, Bob Scheffing, and probably some other technical interlopers that I've bestowed with honorary status for these card posts. Thank you for your interest. We hope that you continue to enjoy this and all future card threads on this theme.

d'Kong76 wrote: d'Kong76 wrote: So was Shamsky the interloper? Yeah. Didn't you look it up? You didn't find the other interloper.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Centerfield wrote: There is a connection between the point of this thread and Tuffy Rhodes that I am supposed to be making. I am not currently making it. I think bml is suggesting that Kirkules might not be the lasting solution to our outfield situation that he seems to think some people think he is.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: When did Home Run Derby start? I haven't watched an All-Star Game since the early 90's, and I've never seen a Home Run Derby. This is so strange to me. NEVER interested in it, even in just a general-baseball-curiosity way? I'm with Wolf. I didn't even catch it live, and I still found the timer/knockout thing thrilling (and a lot less contrived-feeling than the this-time-it-counts business). I paid close attention to one, maybe two Home Run Derbies. I remember the one with Lo Duca pitching to Wright. I have zero interest in the Derby. I think it's for kids. I used to love the MLB all-star game. All the different uniforms lined up. It was a beautiful spectacle - a kaleidoscope of all the baseball colors on the same field. It no longer holds that magic for me. I dunno why. Maybe 'cause I'm getting older. Maybe interleague play dulled what was once, for me anyway, the special occasion of seeing AL and NL players together on a ball field that isn't used for Spring Training. Maybe it was Selig, ruining the game with those stupid contrivances tied to the WS home advantage. Maybe it's the newfangled custom that everybody's gotta get into the game, which was what led to the fiasco in, guess where?, Milwaukee. Or that relievers seem to pitch most of the innings. Yesterday, I was watching old footage of the '72 ASG. Don't ask me why. Bill Stoneman pitched two of the late innings in a very tight game and even took his at bat.

SteveJRogers wrote: The DIY Alvarado cracks me up. Though to be fair, a lot of those mid 1980s retail box sets (IIRC, Topps and Fleer were the only ones that trotted them out) did have questionable selections in terms of matching up to whatever the set was called. League Leader, Rising Stars, Young Stars, etc. Alvarado was done with the majors for about 10 years when that league leaders set came out.

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How could this be? I'm shocked!

I see. You posted the wrong post. The post below is what you should've posted. [fimg=955:1ebo57cu]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3771/19670666241_27c9e43905_o.jpg[/fimg:1ebo57cu]

A couple a more games like yesterday's and I'll probably stop conflating Newy with den Dekker.

SteveJRogers wrote: SteveJRogers wrote: An OOTP user did some fancy Photoshop enhancing as this is the original from Topps So if that Topps Vault photo's the original source, what enhancements were then done? Where's the enhanced photo? Also, do you want your Bob Miller '73 Padres card? If not, I'll give it to somebody else. Its on the forum thread that I grabbed that image from. IDK how that particular one ended up in the picture Edgy grabbed for his reply, as the "original" in the thread does show Martinez in greys. Sure, shoot me it as a PM, thanks! You grabbed "that image", you just wrote. What image? What image is "that image" that you grabbed? The Martinez with the Topps watermark? I assume so. And if so, what does the topps vault watermarked image have to do with this thread? How are you connecting the topps vault image to this thread? And what enhancements (to that watermarked image, I assume, because why else would you post that picture?) were made, as you wrote yesterday? My head is spinning a little bit.

SteveJRogers wrote: An OOTP user did some fancy Photoshop enhancing as this is the original from Topps So if that Topps Vault photo's the original source, what enhancements were then done? Where's the enhanced photo? Also, do you want your Bob Miller '73 Padres card? If not, I'll give it to somebody else.

I'll tell you what does look off on that '75 Martinez card: Shea's Upper Deck. In '75 it was green. I know that those deck colors faded from vibrant to dull over the years due to exposure and neglect, but not to that extent.

SteveJRogers wrote: The DIY Hickman is funny, someone forgot to change the position listed! That's an error card!

SteveJRogers wrote: An OOTP user did some fancy Photoshop enhancing as this is the original from Topps I dunno know what Edgy's seein'. The Martinez card looks fine to my eyes.

The interloper's a tough one.

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I always forget to include Pedrique in the DBack thread. [fimg=266:t9lnjo1a]https://farm1.staticflickr.com/330/19015678904_e1b4f580d6_o.jpg[/fimg:t9lnjo1a]

That's not Tom Goodwin. It's Collin Cowgill (name on top) on a 2011 Upper Deck Goodwin Champions Mini. Upper Deck released its Goodwin Champions sets as a direct response to Topps's tobacco card based Allen & Ginter line. The UD Goodwins are based on the 1880's Goodwin & Co. tobacco cards, a broad-based line of cards depicting the pop culture of the day, including some of the earliest baseball card sets ever. Here's some pictures of the original 1888's and then some 2009 UD Met Goodwins. [fimg=333]http://www.gregbussineauauctions.com/ItemImages/000008/50072317_f_lg.jpeg[/fimg] [fimg=333]http://goodwinandco.com/ItemImages/000028/28920a_lg.jpeg[/fimg] And Snakey-Met Chris Young on a 2009 UD Goodwin Champion: The D-Backs weren't in existence during Tom Goodwin's MLB career. Here's some cards from UD's 2011 Goodwin set:

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Edgy MD wrote: The search engine seemingly won't come up with a link that's less than a year old. It's been like that since the start of June, I think. Its productivity seems to correlate with the Mets. Whew. Because I was beginning to wonder whether the words "Madoff" and "Megdal" were programmed into unsearchable terms.

Good to hear. Here's another graphic that I think would provide valuable Mets info in one graph -- not just any info -- but info that's ordinarily hard to corral in one quick sitting. Attendance. Mets attendance. Each notch on the x axis represents a game date for the Mets (you can do home games, or home and road), and the y axis represents the attendance figure. A graph for each season.

Below is Grantland's short Maddening Mets piece, apart of a collection on baseball's most intriguing story lines. I posted this piece here in the finance thread because unless you cover the Mets daily, or almost daily, it's irresponsible to write about the team without referencing their terrible financial situation -- which Grantland, to their credit, does. For comparison's sake, you might want to read the section on the Astros remarkable transformation, going from a historically bad team, to perhaps, the best team in baseball, all in two years. It's a stark contrast to the Mets, who are run by incompetents, and not just because they got Madoffed. This ownership hasn't had one original baseball thought ever, bumbling and meddling their way through a half assed rebuild. If they weren't so concerned about what the people who tune into Mike Francesca think, they might've let Alderson tear down the team in 2012, making the difficult decision to cut ties with their great star David Wright. The Maddening Mets Michael Baumann: If it proves to be even remotely real, what the Mets have done with pitching prospects over the past few years has to stand out as one of the most impressive player development feats in recent memory. Jacob deGrom, Matt Harvey, Noah Syndergaard, and Steven Matz are all pre-arbitration starters whose stuff and performance merit the front-end starter mantle, though the latter two still have something to prove. Producing four young pitchers of this quality at the same time would be impressive enough if (1) any of them other than Syndergaard was supposed to be this good, and (2) the Mets didn�t have two other quality major league starters in the rotation. By season�s end we could look at this rotation as the best in baseball, and when a team has a front four that good, that young, and that outrageously underpaid, the hard part of constructing a contender is done. Or it would be if the Mets weren�t as bad at everything else as they are good at producing starting pitching. Their offense � and I can think of no more damning criticism in 2015 � is Phillies-like, both quantitatively and qualitatively. Ordinarily, a big-market team would be able to throw money at this problem by acquiring veteran hitters (and it wouldn�t take much of a hitter to upgrade what the Mets have) or by signing one or more of its young pitchers to a contract extension, thereby earning more time to fix the offense internally. But the Mets aren�t an ordinary big-market team, because their owners, the Wilpon family, were swindled into relative pauperism by Bernie Madoff, and have committed other sins that are worse morally but less impactful on the field. In order to attract top talent to New York � or anywhere, really � a team needs not only money but goodwill, or at least the impression that the franchise is run competently. (The Knicks striking out in free agency last week is proof of that.) The Mets, unfortunately, have neither of those things, and GM Sandy Alderson might have already made his fatal mistake by signing Michael Cuddyer instead of a quality veteran hitter last offseason. The Mets have done the hardest part of building a World Series contender. The juxtaposition of that and what�s left undone makes them fascinating. http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-mlb-shootaround-10-most-intriguing-second-half-story-lines/ I started a new Finance thread because I couldn't find any of the other ones. The prickly search engine must be on summer vacation today, turning up barely half a dozen articles with the word "Megdal".