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Frayed Knot wrote:Was there someone he was holding back?Is Eric Valent still on the 40 man roster? If not, someone else will have to be dropped to add him.But once we had Cameron, Beltran and G. Williams, there might have been another "veteran" they could have added at AAA that might not have been so,uh, redundant.Later

Zvon wrote:I guess Ill have to wait to see the blotched DP by Galvine on Baseball 2nite later.That sounded like the beginning of the end there.DatsAbaseball(^your gonna hear me say that alot, so get used to it)I don't think I could ever get used to it.Eapecially after a loss. :(Later

LAst night, the Mets announcers were wondering how well Wagner would do if he had to be used today, because he threw a lot of pitches last night.Phuck! That was ugly.Later

Can anyone provide a good reason why Calloway stayed on the 40 man roster up until now? Later

Frayed Knot wrote: Nah, Backman never got a righthanded hit.That's what made it so memorable. I was driving the my car and listened to Murph's call. He sounded amazed, too. Later

seawolf17 wrote:Remember that time our second baseman drove in a run? Ah, the good old days.I think it was Wally Backman, batting right handed, in a day game againstthe Expos in Jarry Park (Maybe Olympic Stadium). He pulled the ball down the left field line for a double.Later

I'm having a bad feeling about this one already.Later

Edgy DC wrote:I see Norfolk is still working with the photography being done by the assistant clubhouse managerOr the person who takes the license pictures for the Motor Vehicle Bureau.Later

Morgana?Later

Castro 4.5Beltran 1.5 Seo 1 Padilla 1 Looper 1 Heilman 1And a double set of HAIL for this thread.Later

Nice Slap at the Fans:]Met Magic? Fans Don't Believe August 31, 2005 Jon Heyman Newsday Here's a Newsday exclusive: The Mets are in a pennant race. (OK, I'll admit it. That wasn't any more of an exclusive than some of the "exclusives" claimed by one of our competing tabloids.) Yet it requires mentioning. Because the message obviously is not getting out. This is a fine Mets team, an exciting Mets team, one that's worth watching. Really, it is. This is a contending Mets team, one that has as good a chance as anyone of winning the National League wild card. Ya Gotta Believe, no? Maybe if the team makes the playoffs, it will sell out then. Maybe not. The only games that fill Shea Stadium lately are the ones that guarantee the merengue, the Latin appreciation nights. How about some plain ol' baseball appreciation nights? Maybe the better business model is to 86 the baseball and salsa their way through September. If something doesn't change, the Mets' September will be filled with meaningful yet rarely seen games. They returned from a hugely successful 5-2 trip, after finally proving they can win away from Shea and put a nice streak together, to face the wild-card-leading Phillies and a too-empty house. I wonder which was more demoralizing, the unoccupied seats or the first-inning home runs by Phillies Kenny Lofton and Pat Burrell. No matter, the Mets bounced back from both, erasing a 4-1 deficit to win, 6-4. "I think they're missing something if they don't come. This is a very exciting team they should be proud to come see," manager Willie Randolph said. "I don't know who's here and who isn't, as long as there's a few." The players' performance was typically enthralling last night. The fans' performance was abysmal. The announced crowd was 36,505. That's 20,864 less than it should have been. "The weather didn't help us tonight. I would be more upset if the weather was perfect," Mets COO Jeff Wilpon said. "The weather's been threatening all day. There's a hurricane out there." Wilpon was talking 15 minutes before game time, and Shea was mostly empty. There were a decent number of late arrivers. Yet, even after everyone filed in, the green mezzanine section was nearly half empty and the red upper-deck section was half empty. This team isn't a mirage. The fans need to stop treating it like one. This team deserves your attention, your patronage, your respect. The Yankees routinely sell out, even when they are playing nonentities. They sold out against the Royals in rain on Sunday. The Cyclones sell out. So why not their big club? What's keeping them away? If it's the gas prices, well, they aren't keeping Yankees fans home. If they're waiting for Pedro, they can go to two games. If it's the wild card, that's plain silly. The Marlins won two World Series via the wild card. Is the Red Sox's title tarnished by the wild card? Heck no. "If we win tonight and get to within a half-game, I think you'll start seeing a difference," Wilpon said before the game. Sure, Mets fans are skeptical after enduring the Mo Vaughn Era, which partly coincided with the Art Howe Error. That's understandable. But 130 games have been played. It's time, Mets fans. It's time to forget the past, to embrace the present, and to realize the Mets are worth your time. Mike Cameron made it to the ballpark yesterday. If Cameron, who broke his face diving and colliding for a liner, can make it to Shea, you can make it, too. George Will made it to the park, and he brought family members. Davey Johnson made it to the ballpark to promote the Viagra Comeback Player of the Year award. What, you were expecting Rafael Palmeiro? There's plenty to see. David Wright and Jose Reyes are two of the brightest young players in baseball. Wright is already there, Reyes is almost there. Both feature headfirst slides almost nightly. Carlos Beltran can do many things, and he did some of them last night. He's due to do them more often. The Mets get a well-pitched game almost every night and should be in any game. The Mets are one of the faster, more freewheeling, opportunistic teams around. They fly, and they excite. They should, anyway. Yet the fans are apparently taking a wait-and-don't-see approach. "We've got to get 10 games over .500, and then we'll see where we are," Wilpon said. They'll see where they are. But their fans still may miss it. "You know, we're trying," Wilpon said. I wish the same could be said for Mets fans. Later

Bret, Clint Hatrung was so multi-talented that they didn't know if he would be come a great position player or a great pitcher. He became neither.***************************************************************************EDIT: IIRC, Hartung's nickname was "The Hondo Hurricaine".***************************************************************************But I find the name Brien Taylor interesting. Of all the players named in this thread, (the good, the bad, the ugly) he was the only one who never made it to the majors. Later

No charges have been filed, police have responded to the Redondo Beach home of Milton Bradley three times this summer on domestic violence calls. There was one incident in which he allegedly choked his pregnant wife, bloodied her lip and hurled a cellular telephone into a wall. Bradley wouldn't answer questions after a reporter was sent to his home yesterday. ''You come here snooping around,'' he yelled from his upstairs balcony. ''Get off my property. Write that down. Get off my property.'' *******************************************************************************I think the man has more issues than just with race.Later

Thank you, Spaceperson.Or can we call you SB?Later

Johnny Dickshot wrote: 5) Trade value: Trachsel's nearly evaporated with the dreaded back injury, only to spike with a great start. It'll likely fall from here.Yesterday, there was an item on ESPN Radio that Buster Olney is reporting the the Mets and Red Sox are into heavy negotiations over a deal involving Traschell.Later

Off day stuff.Jack Thomas Snow is known as JTAnthony John Pierzynski is known as AJAllan James Burnett is known as AJBut top Tampa Bay prospect Melvin Emanuel Upton is known as BJ.Hmmm, sounds like there might be a story there. Anyone know what it is?LAter

I'm not sure you want to be Ed Bouchee. When he was with another team (Cubs?) I believe the lefty hitting first baseman was involved with a sex scandal. May have been with a minor.Later

I think the interesting thing about the Zambrano VS Traschell choice is that Zambrano has been quoted recently that he has no problem going to the bullpen for the good of the team. And Traschell has been quoted as saying that he prefers to start.Yet the are being put into roles that they may not be comfortable/ productive in.Curious.Later

]So this white-only team from Louisiana may just have been from a mostly white Looziana community even though the state has a sizable black population. That's what I was trying to say.Later

When I first heard that, my firstthought was that Zambrano was being showcased for a deadline deal.But since his next start will be after the deadline, that probably won't happen. So, yes. we can chalk it up as another curious decision by Willie.Later

Each human being is noble in his own way.Later

About that record on Sundays.Can someone please post the Met splilts for w-l in day games?It seems to me that they do better under the lights than in the daytime. And it also seems to have been that way for a few years.Later

Johnny Dickshot wrote:We watched some of the games and wondered how an All-Star LL team from Louisiana could have no black kids on it.I think the way these work is that different leagues in each state form all-star teams and battle with other in-state teams to see which one makes the national tourney.This doesn't say there might not have been Black players participating in that local Louisiana league. But none of them made that league's All Star team. Later

Edgy,Nice work.As a fellow Mets fan, I also want to see every prospect develop to become a productive contributor to team success. And the numbers show that he has made improvement. The team has obviously put time and effort into trying to make him better, and that have succeeded to a degree. But when you get right down to it, he is still hitting below .250 in AA ball. This is the year the Mets must make a decision on adding him to the 40 man roster or exposing him to the Rule V Draft. Based on what you found, would you do it if you were them? At the expense of what other prospects who are higher rated?If you recall, I said this:With me, Ragsdale is an emotional subject, not really a statistical one. I only used his number of errors in comparison to his RBI to make a point about how bad his offense is. This weekend I remembered a few quotes that maybe explain how that relates to my felings about Ragsdale.That inspirational speaker who shows up on talk shows a lot -the guy with the expensive suit, great tan and hair and bright teeth (Tony Roberts?) has said "People will spend more time, money and effort movng away from pain than they will to move toward pleasure".and, in a sales class I once took, the instructor said:"People buy based on emotion, then justify it with reason".I would have taken the less expensive approach. I guess that makes me a typical consumer.To date, I don't feel that the time, effort and money spent on him has resulted in enough benefit. And since this is emotional, there are no numbers of what he has achieved so far that can change my mind.But you made a good try.Later

Beltran has been playing like he doesn't even know what day it is.Maybe that concussion was worse than we thought.Later