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HahnSolo wrote: I gave this one to my son of all people on a long car ride. His guess and its not a bad one: Gaylord Perry. Nope, just Indians HOF and Giants Wall of Honor.

Rockin' Doc wrote: Not trying to hijacck your thread (quiz) Steve, but wondering why some teams aren't included. For instance, Ralph Kiner has his number retired by the Pittsburgh Pirates and was a long time, beloved announcer for the NY Mets. Why would that not count as Mets being honored by other clubs? Of course, Ralph never suited up and played for the Mets. Retired numbers are a different category of honoring team greats. I mean Piazza was inducted into the Mets HOF before getting his number retired!

Rockin' Doc wrote: Cardinals: Tom Herr & Jason isringhausen Twins: Johan Santana & Frank Viola Just a questiion a quick question, because I'm not sure. I thought of Jeff Conine for the Florida (Miami) Marlins, but then saw that the Marlins weren't an option. Do the Marlins not have a franchise Hall of Fame (or whatever they call it) or is there simply no former Mets honored in there Marlins Hall of Recognition? Twins and Cardinals have been completed. Marlins are one of 9 teams (also Athletics, Cubs, Diamondbacks, Dodgers, Pirates, Rockies, Rays, Tigers and White Sox) with no such honor like is discussed in this thread.

HahnSolo wrote: Nolan Ryan with Angels, Astros, Rangers for one of the 3-time honorees. Ryan is the only 3-time honoree, well unless you count the only 4-time honoree as he just got his 4th this summer Torre…Braves, Cardinals, Yankees/ Nope. Just Cardinals and Yankees.

d'Kong76 wrote: 1) Dave Winfield and Rickey Henderson may have been honored by three separate franchises. I can only name the two obvious for both but at a loss for what the third might be. No idea on four, I'd think it would be easier but have no clue at the present time. Nope to both. Henderson is in no such, as the A's only have retired numbers and none of Rickey's other franchises have honored him in any like manner. Winfield is just in the Padres Hall of Fame.

Hints: Brewers, an now deceased OFer who may have put a curse on the Mets since his departure from the team, a Harvey's Wall Banger era pitcher and an early Brewer pitcher. Giants, you should get all three. No real hints needed. Suffice to say all three have ties to important events in Met history. Reds, briefly played and managed here. Angels, member of the 2002 team with 5 tools, and an early Angel and CY winner. Astro, original Astro and early 1970s Met. Orioles, and original Met and coach on Stengel's staff. Red Sox, an already mentioned utility infielder, and a guy with some serious issues. Royals, coached here in the 1990s.

Answers so far Braves Standard Hall of Fame, 2 Mets Warren Spahn (Bucket) Tom Glavine (Edgy) Brewers While they do have a Walk of Fame that is a standard committee based selected HOF, they have a merits and achievements based Wall of Honor and 6 Mets are honored in this Jeromy Burnitz (Edgy) John Valentin (HahnSolo) - - - - Warren Spahn (Walk of Fame for his time as a Milwaukee Brave, forgot about that along with him being an ex-Met in the Brave HOF) Cardinals Standard Hall of Fame 5 with Met ties Bob Gibson (Grimm) Ken Boyer (Chad Ochoseis) Whitey Herzog (Edgy) Rogers Hornsby (HahnSolo) Joe Torre (Grimm) Giants also have a merit/achievement, SF only, based Wall of Honor as well, with 4 individuals with Met ties Willie Mays (MFS62) - - Nationals have a Ring of Honor, with personnel tied to Washington baseball and its own franchise's past 1 of whom has Metly ties Gary Carter (Grimm) Padres Standard Hall of Fame 1 individual with Met ties Randy Jones (FK) Phillies Wall of Fame, which is a standard Hall, 5 individuals with Met ties Tug McGraw (Metfairy) Larry Bowa (Metfairy) Richie Ashburn (Metfairy) Dallas Green (Edgy) Juan Samuel (Grimm) Reds Standard Hall of Fame, 4 with Met ties Tom Seaver (Grimm) George Foster (Grimm) Gus Bell (Edgy) - Angels Standard Hall of Fame 7 with Met ties, though to be fair 4 of whom are honored as part of the 2002 World Champions Jim Fregosi (Chad Ochoseis) Nolan Ryan (Chad Ochoseis) Kevin Appier (HahnSolo) Francisco Rodriguez (HahnSolo) Scott Schoenweis (HahnSolo) - - Astros Standard Walk of Fame with 3 former Mets represented Nolan Ryan (HahnSolo) Mike Scott (HahnSolo) - Blue Jays Level of Excellence has 3 former Mets represented Carlos Delgado (Grimm) Roberto Alomar (Chad Ochoseis) - Indians Standard Hall of Fame 2 former Met is enshrined Carlos Baerga (Chad Ochoseis) Sandy Alomar, Jr. (Chad Ochoseis) Orioles Standard Hall of Fame 9 members with Met ties Frank Cashen (MFS62) Eddie Murray (Chad Ochoseis) Davey Johnson (HahnSolo) Mike Bordick (HahnSolo) Melvin Mora (bmfc1) Roberto Alomar (bmfc1) George Bamberger (bmfc1) Ken Singleton (Edgy) - Rangers Standard Hall of Fame with 3 former Mets represented Nolan Ryan (Edgy) Tom Grieve (Edgy) Kenny Rogers (HahnSolo) Red Sox Standard Hall of Fame with 6 members with Met ties Pedro Martinez (Edgy) Mo Vaughn (Edgy) Lou Gorman, briefly a Met talent guy before becoming the Red Sox GM during the mid-1980s (Edgy) Don Zimmmer (Edgy) - - Royals Standard Hall of Fame with 5 members with Met ties Amos Otis (Edgy) Whitey Herzog (Edgy) Bret Saberhagen (Grimm) Kevin Appier (LWFS) - Twins Standard Hall of Fame with 2 inductees with Met ties Rick Augilera (Metfairy) Frank Viola (HahnSolo) MFYs Monument Park, standard selected Hall like, 5 members with Met ties Yogi Berra (D'Kong) Casey Stengel (Edgy) Joe Torre (Edgy) Willie Randolph (Edgy) Mel Stottlemyre (Forgot to put his name on the list as well) WRONG! Nationals Dave Johnson (Bucket) Rusty Staub (Kong) Frank Howard (Edgy) Padres Jack Murphy, no Met ties, and not even a Padre HOFer (Bucket) Twins Joe McIllvaine (Bucket) Ron Gardenhire (Bucket) (Edgy) Blue Jays John Olerud (Grimm) Phillies Lenny Dykstra (Metfairy) Cardinals Vince Coleman (Metfairy) Keith Hernandez (Grimm) Tim McCarver (Grimm) Rangers Bobby Valentine (Edgy) Royals David Cone (Edgy) Astros Rusty Staub (Metfairy) Red Sox Pumpsie Green (Edgy) Brewers George Bamberger (Batmags) Dodgers Sandy Koufax (Batmags) No official Met ties, and the Dodgers only have retired numbers Indians Roberto Alomar (Chad Ochoseis) Reds John Franco (Grimm)

Chad Ochoseis wrote: 1 is a number symbolizing an event as opposed to a specific person The Indians retired the number of consecutive sellouts at Jacobs Field in the '90s. I think that number was 432, or something ridiculous like that. So we'll never see a Cleveland Indian wearing 432 on his back. 455 actually

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Joe Morgan, Reds and Red Sox. Yup, that's one. The other is much more obscure. A Reds 1940s outfielder, and a 1960s Giants pitcher, Mike McCormick.

HahnSolo wrote: Cal Ripken Sr and Jr with the Os Technically they are in the same HOF, ditto Griffeys in the Reds Hall.

MFS62 wrote: SteveJRogers wrote: I've found two instances where an honoree has the same names, but different persons entirely. One set is a 1940s position player, and a 1960s pitcher. And the other set is a long time infielder, and a long time coach and skipper. My guess is Bob Lemon, because Jim Lemon's full name was James Robert Lemon. Are you that sneaky? Later Nope

1) One person has been honored, in one way or another, by 4 separate franchises, and another has been honored by three separate franchises Name them, and the franchises. 2) Oddly enough, 13 Retired Numbers, or variations of such an honor such as Broadcaster Mics, names, etc (not including Jackie Robinson's #42) represent players or personnel that for whatever reasons are not enshrined in their respective team's Halls. To be fair and some hints, 8 are due to a franchise's Wall of Honor not representing a team's relocation or non-playing personnel, 1 is a number symbolizing an event as opposed to a specific person, 1 is a number that was officially retired for a brief period (oddly enough the number has since been retired again, but no recognition has been made for its previous honoree) and 2 are broadcast honorees whom have yet to be selected, in one form or another, to their franchise's hall. 3) Finally, an interesting oddity, in my going through the names, I've found two instances where an honoree has the same names, but different persons entirely. One set is a 1940s position player, and a 1960s pitcher. And the other set is a long time infielder, and a long time coach and skipper.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Could the remaining Ranger be... Jon Matlack? Getting roasted here!

bmfc1 wrote: Orioles: Paul Blair (signed by the Mets as an amateur free agent in 1961) Sorry, I didn't think to do Mets drafted or signed, or played in the minors. Hell, I didn't think Lou Gorman should have qualified because he wasn't a uniformed Met like Herzog was at one point, or on any sort of official list of rosters that are generally kept (GMs, principal VPs/owners, etc) You want me to do even MORE work on this project!? =

HahnSolo wrote: Zim for the Red Sox? Edgy got him already

Answers so far Braves Standard Hall of Fame, 2 Mets Warren Spahn (Bucket) Tom Glavine (Edgy) Brewers While they do have a Walk of Fame that is a standard committee based selected HOF, they have a merits and achievements based Wall of Honor and 6 Mets are honored in this Jeromy Burnitz (Edgy) John Valentin (HahnSolo) - - - - Warren Spahn (Walk of Fame for his time as a Milwaukee Brave, forgot about that along with him being an ex-Met in the Brave HOF) Cardinals Standard Hall of Fame 5 with Met ties Bob Gibson (Grimm) Ken Boyer (Chad Ochoseis) Whitey Herzog (Edgy) Rogers Hornsby (HahnSolo) Joe Torre (Grimm) Giants also have a merit/achievement, SF only, based Wall of Honor as well, with 4 individuals with Met ties Willie Mays (MFS62) - - Nationals have a Ring of Honor, with personnel tied to Washington baseball and its own franchise's past 1 of whom has Metly ties - Padres Standard Hall of Fame 1 individual with Met ties Randy Jones (FK) Phillies Wall of Fame, which is a standard Hall, 5 individuals with Met ties Tug McGraw (Metfairy) Larry Bowa (Metfairy) Richie Ashburn (Metfairy) Dallas Green (Edgy) Juan Samuel (Grimm) Reds Standard Hall of Fame, 4 with Met ties Tom Seaver (Grimm) George Foster (Grimm) Gus Bell (Edgy) - Angels Standard Hall of Fame 7 with Met ties, though to be fair 4 of whom are honored as part of the 2002 World Champions Jim Fregosi (Chad Ochoseis) Nolan Ryan (Chad Ochoseis) Kevin Appier (HahnSolo) Francisco Rodriguez (HahnSolo) Scott Schoenweis (HahnSolo) - - Astros Standard Walk of Fame with 3 former Mets represented Nolan Ryan (HahnSolo) Mike Scott (HahnSolo) - Blue Jays Level of Excellence has 3 former Mets represented Carlos Delgado (Grimm) Roberto Alomar (Chad Ochoseis) - Indians Standard Hall of Fame 2 former Met is enshrined Carlos Baerga (Chad Ochoseis) Sandy Alomar, Jr. (Chad Ochoseis) Orioles Standard Hall of Fame 9 members with Met ties Frank Cashen (MFS62) Eddie Murray (Chad Ochoseis) Davey Johnson (HahnSolo) Mike Bordick (HahnSolo) Melvin Mora (bmfc1) Roberto Alomar (bmfc1) George Bamberger (bmfc1) - - Rangers Standard Hall of Fame with 3 former Mets represented Nolan Ryan (Edgy) Tom Grieve (Edgy) - Red Sox Standard Hall of Fame with 6 members with Met ties Pedro Martinez (Edgy) Mo Vaughn (Edgy) Lou Gorman, briefly a Met talent guy before becoming the Red Sox GM during the mid-1980s (Edgy) Don Zimmmer (Edgy) - - Royals Standard Hall of Fame with 5 members with Met ties Amos Otis (Edgy) Whitey Herzog (Edgy) - - - Twins Standard Hall of Fame with 2 inductees with Met ties Rick Augilera (Metfairy) Frank Viola (HahnSolo) MFYs Monument Park, standard selected Hall like, 5 members with Met ties Yogi Berra (D'Kong) Casey Stengel (Edgy) Joe Torre (Edgy) Willie Randolph (Edgy) Mel Stottlemyre (Forgot to put his name on the list as well) WRONG! Nationals Dave Johnson (Bucket) Rusty Staub (Kong) Frank Howard (Edgy) Padres Jack Murphy, no Met ties, and not even a Padre HOFer (Bucket) Twins Joe McIllvaine (Bucket) Ron Gardenhire (Bucket) (Edgy) Blue Jays John Olerud (Grimm) Phillies Lenny Dykstra (Metfairy) Cardinals Vince Coleman (Metfairy) Keith Hernandez (Grimm) Tim McCarver (Grimm) Rangers Bobby Valentine (Edgy) Royals David Cone (Edgy) Astros Rusty Staub (Metfairy) Red Sox Pumpsie Green (Edgy) Brewers George Bamberger (Batmags) Dodgers Sandy Koufax (Batmags) No official Met ties, and the Dodgers only have retired numbers Indians Roberto Alomar (Chad Ochoseis) Reds John Franco (Grimm)

Chad Ochoseis wrote: SteveJRogers wrote: And so far two of the wrong guesses could have been right ones with a different franchise. I'm amazed that Roberto Alomar isn't in the Indians HOF. But the Jays must have honored him. As far as the Indians, what about his brother Sandy, Jr? Ahhh FUCK! I forgot Sandy Jr. was a Met...well it was 8 games in 2007 so...

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Six Brewers ... and that's all I got. I just took a look at the Brewers walk of fame because I was dumbstruck that the franchise could honor six one-time Mets and George Bamberger, who managed their greatest teams and managed them to their only WS and was beloved, wouldn't be one of them. Boy is that thing liberal. It appears that if you have two or two and a half decent seasons with the Brewers, you get the honor. But not Bambi. I mean, I could see why he isn't in the Mets HOF but not in that Brewers thing? You should see some of the forgettable players on that thing. LOL! Like I said, its merit based and based on various career milestones and achievements. The Milwaukee Brewers Wall of Honor was established in 2014 to commemorate Brewers players who have made significant contributions to the team. Retired players who have met any one of seven conditions while playing for the Brewers will be enshrined in to the Wall of Honor. Active players will be enshrined upon retirement. These criteria include 2,000 or more plate appearances, 1,000 or more innings pitched, 250 or more games pitched, winning of a major award (Major League Baseball Most Valuable Player Award, Cy Young Award, Rookie of the Year Award, or Fireman of the Year Award), managing a pennant-winning team, being recognized with a statue on the Miller Park Plaza, and being elected to the National Baseball Hall of Fame.[1] Only non-playing personnel on their Wall are Seilg, Uke and Harvey Kuenn. I think its Kuenn, and that era being called Harvey's Wallbangers, that get more of the credit for being the skipper of that era's Brew Crew.

Si...*sigh* I'll do a second update after a few more posts come in. A hint of the Ranger remaining actually concerns Glavine, or at least how Glavine ended up his Met career in somewhat the same fashion as this guy did. Major hints with Brewers and Giants, both are merit and achievement based "Walls of Honor," so think about that when it comes to ex-Met Brewers or Giants. Still looking for the members of the 2002 Angels. The remaining Phillie is also a notorious Met villain for his performance, or lack thereof, in a Met uniform. And so far two of the wrong guesses could have been right ones with a different franchise.

Answers so far Braves Standard Hall of Fame, 2 Mets Warren Spahn(Bucket) - Brewers While they do have a Walk of Fame that is a standard committee based selected HOF, they have a merits and achievements based Wall of Honor and 6 Mets are honored in this - - - - - - Cardinals Standard Hall of Fame 5 with Met ties Bob Gibson (Grimm) Ken Boyer (Chad Ochoseis) - - - Giants also have a merit/achievement, SF only, based Wall of Honor as well, with 4 individuals with Met ties Willie Mays(MFS62) - - Nationals have a Ring of Honor, with personnel tied to Washington baseball and its own franchise's past 1 of whom has Metly ties - Padres Standard Hall of Fame 1 individual with Met ties Randy Jones (FK) Phillies Wall of Fame, which is a standard Hall, 5 individuals with Met ties Tug McGraw (Metfairy) Larry Bowa (Metfairy) Richie Ashburn (Metfairy) Dallas Green (Edgy) - Reds Standard Hall of Fame, 4 with Met ties Tom Seaver (Grimm) George Foster (Grimm) - - Angels Standard Hall of Fame 7 with Met ties, though to be fair 4 of whom are honored as part of the 2002 World Champions Jim Fregosi (Chad Ochoseis) Nolan Ryan (Chad Ochoseis) - - - - - Astros Standard Walk of Fame with 3 former Mets represented Nolan Ryan (HahnSolo) Mike Scott (HahnSolo) - Blue Jays Level of Excellence has 3 former Mets represented Carlos Delgado (Grimm) - - Indians Standard Hall of Fame 1 former Met is enshrined - Orioles Standard Hall of Fame 9 members with Met ties Frank Cashen (MFS62) Eddie Murray (Chad Ochoseis) Davey Johnson (HahnSolo) Mike Bordick (HahnSolo) - - - - - Rangers Standard Hall of Fame with 3 former Mets represented Nolan Ryan (Edgy) Tom Grieve (Edgy) - Red Sox Standard Hall of Fame with 6 members with Met ties Pedro Martinez (Edgy) Mo Vaughn (Edgy) Lou Gorman, briefly a Met talent guy before becoming the Red Sox GM during the mid-1980s (Edgy) Don Zimmmer (Edgy) - - Royals Standard Hall of Fame with 5 members with Met ties Amos Otis (Edgy) Whitey Herzog (Edgy) - - - Twins Standard Hall of Fame with 2 inductees with Met ties Rick Augilera (Metfairy) - MFYs Monument Park, standard selected Hall like, 4 members with Met ties Yogi Berra (D'Kong) - - - WRONG! Nationals Dave Johnson (Bucket) Rusty Staub (Kong) Frank Howard (Edgy) Padres Jack Murphy, no Met ties, and not even a Padre HOFer (Bucket) Twins Joe McIllvaine (Bucket) Ron Gardenhire (Bucket) Blue Jays John Olerud (Grimm) Phillies Lenny Dykstra (Metfairy) Cardinals Vince Coleman (Metfairy) Keith Hernandez (Grimm) Tim McCarver (Grimm) Rangers Bobby Valentine (Edgy) Royals David Cone (Edgy) Astros Rusty Staub (Metfairy) Red Sox Pumpsie Green (Edgy) Brewers George Bamberger (Batmags) Dodgers Sandy Koufax (Batmags) No official Met ties, and the Dodgers only have retired numbers Indians Roberto Alomar (Chad Ochoseis)

d'Kong76 wrote: We need an update so we can see what's missing. I'M WORKING ON IT!

Edgy MD wrote: Move On, Who? uh ... Lou Gorman Hmmm, I debated adding him since he was more of an underling rather than a major position, Herzog was at least in a uniform position...eh fine. 6 Sawk

MFS62 wrote: And Fred Wilpon has paid more tribute to ex-Brooklyn players than LA has, but nothing for HOF-er Duke Snider? No wonder I root for the San Andreas Fault. To be fair, numbers of Reese, Snider, Campanella, and Robinson are retired, and they do salute their Brooklyn hertiage when warranted (anniversaries). FWIW, other than the Dodgers, the following franchies do not have any sort of mechanism such as a Hall or Walk or Wall of Fame; Cubs, Diamondbacks, Marlins (whom, along with the Nats are the line teams with no non-Robinson retired numbers), Pirates, Rockies, Athletics, Rays, Tigers and White Sox.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Pods - Jack Muffy I don't think Bob's Bro had any connection with the Mets, other than being the brother of The Voice of The Mets.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Braves - Spahn D'OH