stevejrogers

The Mets made a HOF plaque for Gary Carter, with an NY on his cap, instead of the Expos one on his Cooperstown plaque, and hung it in Shea's Diamond Club lobby with the Met HOF busts, wall photos and other artifacts. No clue of its whereabouts today. Anyway, since I don't see why Cooperstown wouldn't put Brooklyn's B on Gil's visage (I really hope they aren't pressured into going the Yogi/Maddux/Halladay/LaRussa route with no logo) I wonder if that faux plaque will show up again, along with a version of Gil's plaque with an NY, instead of a B.

Interestingly is that O'Neil, with the award that bears his name, is the first Hall Award Winner to be in the inductee rolls, though odds are a HOFer like Dizzy Dean or Ralph Kiner might join him via the Frick award in the opposite direction at some point. Oddly enough, the O'Neil ambassador role award caused the first double dip in the Hall's history as 1991 Frick winner Joe Garagiola was named the O'Neil recipient in 2014.

Frayed Knot wrote: And those folks who relieve themselves of the burden of proof also get to sidestep the inconvenient question of how such an obviously deserving member was voted down so consistently by contemporaries who actually saw your guy play. This. The only thing I'm pretty confident in saying is that Gil Hodges's playing career, alone, doesn't merit enshrinement in Cooperstown. And his managerial record, alone, doesn't merit inclusion either. So is Gil's managerial record enough, when combined with his playing record, enough to get him in? I dunno. The 1969 Mets were spectacular, one of the greatest stories in baseball history, and still, one of baseball's most beloved teams ever, even though its fans are dying off. Everybody rooted for the '69 Mets. But still, Gil's managerial record is brief. HOFer's that needed their managerial record to bolster their playing stats to get in, tended to have a larger managerial record than what Hodges accomplished as a manager. It was simply too brief. Gil himself was as beloved as those '69 Mets and his case will no doubt rely on the almost universal respect he received to get in. Gil has a unique resume, for which there is virtually no comp. I have seen “Joe Torre as player” arguments get made that his managerial days should put him over the top as an overall “performer” While he's in as a skipper, I doubt his “borderline” performance as a player was any factor when he came up as a manager. Nor did his MFY and after managing career factor into whomever was deciding his cases on ballots as a player.

Buck O'Neil becomes the first Hall Award Winner, the one that bears his name, to gain induction. Miñoso, Kaat and Oliva join Hodges to end a bit of a logjam in their era's ballot.

Lefty Specialist wrote: That's very Pravda-ish of them. I thought their reporting side was independent from the business side but this proves that's not the case. Might not be MLB's call. Mark Feinsand @Feinsand According to the league, in order to comply with federal labor law during the lockout, MLB is making every effort to not use players' names, images or likenesses for promotional, advertising or other commercial purposes. IOW, they can do a piece on multiple multiple-time Cy winners on the same roster in anticipation of Scherzer-DeGrom, but it can't include this year's pennant drive with Scherzer joining Kershaw. Or continue Detroit's bemoaning of Verlander and Scherzer on the same staff.

Chad ochoseis wrote: Zac Greinke Just the one back in 2009.

Edgy MD wrote: Waidaminnit! Who the hell are the 1972 Guardians?! Like calling the Highlanders the MFY, Boston Pilgrims the Red Sox, or Philadelphia Blue Jays the Phillies, the franchise adopts current day vernaculars

=stevejrogers post_id=82019 time=1638222323 user_id=57] When Scherzer throws his first official game pitch as a Met, he'll be the 19 Cy Young winner to pitch for the Mets, representing 29 CY winning seasons. I'm listing them by total CYs, standard one guess per post rules 3 #41 1969 Mets, 1973 Mets, 1975 Mets (Edgy) 3 Pedro Martinez 1997 Expos, 1999 Red Sox, 2000 Red Sox (KC) 3 Max Scherzer 2013 Tigers, 2016 Nationals, 2017 Nationals 2 Bret Saberhagen 1985 Royals, 1989 Royals (BenGrimm) 2 Tom Glavine 1991 Braves, 1995 Braves (Willets) 2 Johan Santana 2004 Twins, 2006 Twins (KC) 2 deCy 2018 Mets, 2019 Mets (WilletsPoint) 1 Warren Spahn 1957 Braves (Marshmallowmilkshake) 1 Dean Chance 1964 Angels (dinosaurjesus) 1 Mike Marshall 1974 Dodgers (Edgy) 1 Randy Jones 1976 Padres (BenGrimm) 1 The Good Doctor of Strikeouts 1985 Mets (BenGrimm) 1 Mike Scott 1986 Astros (dinosaurjesus) 1 Frank Viola 1988 Twins (JohnnyLunchBucket) 1 Orel Hershiser 1988 Dodgers (Willets) 1 David Cone 1994 Royals (KC) 1 Bartolo Colon 2005 Angels (KC) 1 RA 2012 Mets (Willets) 1 Rick Porcello 2016 Red Sox (Willets) BONUS Name the other 14 members of the 21 member multiple Cy Young Winner Club 7 He Whom Shall Not Be Named 1986 Red Sox, 1987 Red Sox, 1991 Red Sox, 1997 Blue Jays, 1998 Blue Jays, 2001 MFY, 2004 Astros (BenGrimm) 5 Randy Johnson 1995 Mariners, 1999 Diamondbacks, 2000 Diamondbacks, 2001 Diamondbacks, 2002 Diamondbacks (FMann99) 4 Steve Carlton 1972 Phillies, 1977 Phillies, 1980 Phillies, 1982 Phillies (Edgy) 4 Greg Muaddux 1992 Cubs, 1993 Braves, 1994 Braves, 1995 Braves (batmags) 3 Sandy Koufax 1963 Dodgers, 1965 Dodgers, 1966 Dodgers (BenGrimm) 3 Jim Palmer 1973 Orioles, 1975 Orioles, 1976 Orioles 3 Clayton Kershaw 2011 Dodgers, 2013 Dodgers, 2014 Dodgers 2 Denny McLain 1968 Tigers, 1969 Tigers (batmags) 2 Bob Gibson 1968 Cardinals, 1970 Cardinals (dinosaur jesus) 2 Gaylord Perry 1972 Guardians, 1978 Padres (KC) 2 Tim Linceum 2008 Giants, 2009 Giants (FMan) 2 _______________ 2 _______________ 2 _______________ Wrong Answers Nolan Ryan (Chad ochoseis) Hideo Nomo (Chad ochoseis) Frank Tanana (Edgy)

Edgy MD wrote: Well, someone did, but he edited it out. Rogers runs a sloppy table, always has. Who wins!?! Still missing a bunch of bonus Cy Guys

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=82183 time=1638310425 user_id=68] =stevejrogers post_id=82181 time=1638308256 user_id=57] =kcmets post_id=82042 time=1638227058 user_id=53]Vote Cone!

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=kcmets post_id=82042 time=1638227058 user_id=53]Vote Cone!

Edgy MD wrote: Bonus: Sandy Koufax. Already named

=kcmets post_id=82156 time=1638300889 user_id=53] Bonus: Roidger Clemens

=kcmets post_id=82074 time=1638233851 user_id=53] There's 4 more?? Mike Marshall around when I graduated high school.

Willets Point wrote: I almost forgot Rick Porcello was a Met, but he had a Cy Young season with the Red Sox. Yup! That leaves one former Met Cy Guy left on the board

Edgy MD wrote: Frank Tanana. Nope

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Chad ochoseis wrote: Seriously? Nolan Ryan never won even once? I think Hideo Nomo did. Nomo only won a Rookie of The Year Award

Chad ochoseis wrote: Nolan Ryan First...ummmm, no pun intended, especially when it comes to the All-Time K Leader, whiff

dinosaur jesus wrote: Mike Scott Not who I thought would be the first off the board =

When Scherzer throws his first official game pitch as a Met, he'll be the 19 Cy Young winner to pitch for the Mets, representing 29 CY winning seasons. I'm listing them by total CYs, standard one guess per post rules 3 #41 1969 Mets, 1973 Mets, 1975 Mets (Edgy) 3 Pedro Martinez 1997 Expos, 1999 Red Sox, 2000 Red Sox (KC) 3 Max Scherzer 2013 Tigers, 2016 Nationals, 2017 Nationals 2 Bret Saberhagen 1985 Royals, 1989 Royals (BenGrimm) 2 Tom Glavine 1991 Braves, 1995 Braves (Willets) 2 Johan Santana 2004 Twins, 2006 Twins (KC) 2 deCy 2018 Mets, 2019 Mets (WilletsPoint) 1 Warren Spahn 1957 Braves (Marshmallowmilkshake) 1 Dean Chance 1964 Angels (dinosaurjesus) 1 Mike Marshall 1974 Dodgers (Edgy) 1 Randy Jones 1976 Padres (BenGrimm) 1 The Good Doctor of Strikeouts 1985 Mets (BenGrimm) 1 Mike Scott 1986 Astros (dinosaurjesus) 1 Frank Viola 1988 Twins (JohnnyLunchBucket) 1 Orel Hershiser 1988 Dodgers (Willets) 1 David Cone 1994 Royals (KC) 1 Bartolo Colon 2005 Angels (KC) 1 RA 2012 Mets (Willets) 1 Rick Porcello 2016 Red Sox (Willets) BONUS Name the other 14 members of the 21 member multiple Cy Young Winner Club 7 He Whom Shall Not Be Named 1986 Red Sox, 1987 Red Sox, 1991 Red Sox, 1997 Blue Jays, 1998 Blue Jays, 2001 MFY, 2004 Astros (BenGrimm) 5 Randy Johnson 1995 Mariners, 1999 Diamondbacks, 2000 Diamondbacks, 2001 Diamondbacks, 2002 Diamondbacks (FMann99) 4 Steve Carlton 1972 Phillies, 1977 Phillies, 1980 Phillies, 1982 Phillies (Edgy) 4 Greg Muaddux 1992 Cubs, 1993 Braves, 1994 Braves, 1995 Braves (batmags) 3 Sandy Koufax 1963 Dodgers, 1965 Dodgers, 1966 Dodgers (BenGrimm) 3 Jim Palmer 1973 Orioles, 1975 Orioles, 1976 Orioles 3 Clayton Kershaw 2011 Dodgers, 2013 Dodgers, 2014 Dodgers (batmags) 2 Denny McLain 1968 Tigers, 1969 Tigers (batmags) 2 Bob Gibson 1968 Cardinals, 1970 Cardinals (dinosaur jesus) 2 Gaylord Perry 1972 Guardians, 1978 Padres (KC) 2 Tim Linceum 2008 Giants, 2009 Giants (FMan) 2 Roy Halladay 2003 Blue Jays, 2010 Phillies (dinosaur jesus) 2 _______________ 2 Justin Verlander 2011 Tigers, 2019 Astros (batmags) Wrong Answers Nolan Ryan (Chad ochoseis) Hideo Nomo (Chad ochoseis) Frank Tanana (Edgy) BONUS Zack Greinke (Chad ochoseis)

Edgy MD wrote: Mets named after places to shop: Starling Marte Orlando Mercado Al Weis Managed by George Bamberger

Gin Blossoms' guitarist Bill Leen spotted with a Met cap on while band hit New Jersey for some gigs. https://twitter.com/scotthessel/status/1462149530720350214?s=21https://twitter.com/scotthessel/status/1462149530720350214?s=21 Quick Google search doesn't come up with any connections beyond the Arizona native “doing what the Romans do”

Edgy MD wrote: I don't know what YFM means but I'm sure I'll figure it out by the time I submit this comment. As for all positions being represented within a franchise, the Mets are short only a catcher, and it's more than likely that Jerry Grote deserved one or two of Johnny Bench's awards, but what are you gonna do? Also both corner OFers as their OF winners are all CFers; Agee, Beltran and Lagares