Gwreck wrote: I don't think you can call "worst trade of the decade" until 10 years after the trade have elapsed. Hell, I think there should be a 5 year waiting period before any "worst ever"-type labels are applied. Good point. Hell great case in point, using the Kazmir example (and through in Gen K as well) match Kazmir up with any "old school, ya gotta THROW, THROW, THROW, and then THROW SOME MORE, FUCK PITCH COUNTS" Dallas Green types and who knows Scott Kazmir could become another Kerry Wood/Jason Isringhausen/Paul Wilson/Bill Pulsipher type. 1998 everyone thought Kerry Wood was poised to take his place as the heir apparant to Roger Clemens (especially using Rocket's and Ryan's Texan background) and look how far he's fallen through the years Getting back to Ryan, Nolan was also very much not a guy who was going to do well here, period. Guy was very introverted, hated the limelight, plus he was too inconsistant to really be plugged into a specific role. It really was a case of sending him to the right change of scenery. Conversley, even if we had the 72-79 Ryan (Not sure if the time frame lines up right, but there'd be NO WAY the deLoruets were going to sign him to a 1 million contract, and it would set a real bad precesdent for Wilpon/Doubleday to start pulling a move like that either) what good would it have gotten? A Game 6 1973 WS win? I'm not sure