stevejrogers

I'm sure there are examples, but they must be on a local level, i.e. LA newspaper writers saying Sutton and Lasorda are pieces of crud for pitching Sutton on Sunday, therefore leaving him unavailable to pitch in the Tuesday All Star Game. But since its not a big deal, the issue blows over and is forgotten in the next news cycle

Elster88 wrote: When has the media ever, in its history, made a big deal out of a player sitting out the ASG because he started the last game before the break? I'm sure its happened. Probably to someone they don't like (Pedro) I'm probably thinking more local level, and clearly if it happened it blew over quickly

="KC"]SJR: >>>You said I contradicted myself and I...ah the heck with it, its not worth it <<< Cool, you're gonna stop posting? How did my assertion become your assertions? You said somthing one hour and changed it the next. Why is that so difficult to get through to you? You're right, it's not worth it, but saying stuff and then throwing your hands up in backing away is annoying. If you have some kind of challenge that we should know about, please let us know. It's almost like you're borderline retarded or something. First I said, I'd bet Glavine and/or someone high in the Met Food chain, most likely Randolph probably campaigned for this, this wasn't something that was hatched on Sunday, that this probably was in the works since Glavine was picked. Which is their right to do so, many fans would agree with the assertion that their best, and healthy pitcher should sit out the All Star Game, especially considering he is 40 and we are in first place of the division, and it actually would be better if a younger guy like Capuano made it for the first time instead. I just threw it out there, saying they bitched was probably over the top, no one should force anyone to go to an All Star game if they don't want to, no matter what the reason. Therefore, as I said later the media blows these things up (usually when its someone like Pedro who doesn't go due to "mysterious" circumstances, especially when not on the actual DL) and its one of their agruments about how the ASG should be fixed and one of their self-fufilling prophesey about how the game has dwindled in interest. In other words its not a big deal that Glavine isn't going, the media makes mountains out of these type of things,

="KC"]SJR: >>>Both assertions are not contradictory.<<< Can someone help me out with how this responds to what I said? You said I contradicted myself and I...ah the heck with it, its not worth it By the way, Reyes officially out, no replacement on either roster or starting lineup has been determined

Got a new post on the site I write for, first time in a while, but still.

Elster88 wrote: ="SteveJRogers"]Cue the worry warts on the internet So now you're cueing yourself? I'm not worried untill October. Then again talk to me on Labor Day

KC wrote: Let's stick to my assertion that you contradicted yourself in this thread and often do in other threads. I don't give a rat's hoof about what Davey said. Both assertions are not contradictory. I was throwing out there my opinion about how Glavine came to be removed from the roster and stated later that the media blows stuff like that out of proportion

="KC"]SJR: >>>Bet you someone about Glavine (i.e. Randolph) probably bitched to Garner about having an important starter in the game.<<< SJR: >>>Uh not me, the media that takes things like this and makes the mountain out of it. I'm just saying what I've been hearing allready on the air<<< So, at 2:30 it was you and then at 3:30 it was the media? Combo of both. Managers and players do beg out when it comes to their pitchers. Davey Johnson in his own book said he hated having his pitchers selected to an All Star Game (funny thing of course is that he took Sid Fernandez in 1987) Bitch is probably too strong for this case, but it is a fact of life in today's sports And the media does blow it all out of porportion when it comes to when players beg out even if they don't have a legit injury, basically acting as if its giving all of the fans a big FU despite the fact that the game has barely enough interest to make the arguments a strong one Hell even fans of the teams would prefer that their guys (specifically starting pitchers) sat out. Hell, don't you think part of the Phillies collapse last year was due to Abreu messing up his swing in order to win that HR contest? Probably not, but Abreu was ice cold the last 3 months of the year and the Phils missed the playoffs.

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Wonder if an ASG starter ever was taken out of the starting lineup yet was still active for the game? Hmmm

Reyes is in the game, probably good sign for an ASG start

KC wrote: You think too much. What part of Glavine just finishing pitching a game like about twenty minutes ago and there's no way he'll pitch on Tuesday don't you understand? Why should he go, so he can tip his hat in the pre-game bullcrap ceremony that no one over 11 cares about? Uh not me, the media that takes things like this and makes the mountain out of it. I'm just saying what I've been hearing allready on the air

Cue the worry warts on the internet and sports talk radio. Dropping 4 out of 8 to the Pirates and Marlins on the heels of the disaster against the AL East will certaintly start the drum banging for Willis AND Zito becoming Mets. Hell callers might be dumb enough to bring the Reyes for Soriano proposition back to life!

By the way, listening to ESPN Radio talking heads is why people do consider players backing out "bitching" Essentailly they are saying how can Glavine just "back out" and also wondering why Griffey and Bonds aren't there. Hell this afternoon one of their hosts made a case that Clemens deserves to be there over Brian Fuentes! Essentially dissapointment that the best players aren't there leaving a bunch of "no-names" going because "everyone needs to be represented"

A Boy Named Seo wrote: I don't know about bitching. Probably more like Glavine's a 40-year old guy and pitching on Sunday would make him unavailable to throw on Tuesday, so fill his spot. Capuano's been great and deserves it. Good for him. Okay, bitch might be too strong, but too many times these are situations where the manager (or whomever) tries to controll things for their favor Whats being under reported in ManRam's being out of the ASG is that it was TERRY FRANCONA who campaigned for him not being at the game, not ManRam himself Sure sometimes it'll be the player himself, like Pedro taking his ASG selection as a chance to take an extended vacation, but most of the time the blame lies soley with the organization the player plays for

Its official, Chris Capuano of the Brewers will go on the official roster instead of Glavine. Bet you someone about Glavine (i.e. Randolph) probably bitched to Garner about having an important starter in the game. I recall Davey Johnson imploring that Dick Williams NOT use Doc Gooden in the 1985 game despite Gooden's prolific start Glavine will probably still make the trip and doff the cap but will not be used in the game

Gotta say this guy is worse than Bret/Sal, at least Bret/Sal went back and forth, this guy does quick hit & runs. I'm still waiting for him to apologize for thinking I was rude in the ASG thread as well as answering who is catching us for the division and how.

And while we are at it, exactly HOW is anyone catching us this year? Braves and Phillies have quit on the year, the Marlins are way too young to stay with the Mets, this is NOT the 1969 Mets out there (no Ed Charles, Ed Kranepool, Don Cardwell, hell Cleon, Tug and Buddy could have been called "veterans" at the time as well) and the Nationals are a disorganized mess. My "Congratulations" posts were moronic ways to improve Metly karma, seriously this division is all but wrapped up. Only thing we should be thinking about is how far in the postseason we are going. And don't take any bows for Milledge yet, last time I checked his performance was given a soundly "Needs more seasoning" and jury is still out on Pelfrey. For all you know we could have another Jefferies and David West on our hands

cleonjones11 wrote: I posted Milledge and Pelfrey would be here a month ago but got shot down quickly by the cranepool clique..WOOF They were both called up due to injuries. Milledge is back in the minors for more seasoning and so will Pelfrey after the break. BIG difference

This game deserves the best beer on this planet

Well this was certaintly not the way the Mets thought game 1 would go. But here is some Flying Fish India Pale Ale

metirish wrote: I missed both games today but was wondering if Reyes will go to the All-Star game? Haven't gotten any word yet, probably Sunday it will be determined