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Elster88 wrote: ="SteveJRogers"]Elster88 wrote: What does Right Zambrano mean? All Star Carlos Zambrano as opposed to broken down Victor Zambrano ala Right Maddux being Greg, wrong Maddux being Mike Right Matsui is Godzilla Hideki on the MFY, wrong Matsui was our Mat-suki the not so great Kazuo So basically pure stupidity is the idea? Stupidity in the Mets having Victor Zambrano, Mike Maddux and Kaz Matsui on their roster? Yes I realize there was no shot ever of landing Carlos, Greg or Hideki at any point, but the point was poking fun at the regimes that made the Zambrano trade, the Maddux trade (to be fair Maddux wasn't overhyped or anything and we sure the heck weren't going after a front line starter at the time, Maddux was what he was, a spare part in the pen) and Matsui signing. Part of the Mets habit of getting that player just as he hits his decline or when he's damaged goods, or in Matsui's case just plain overhyped and poorly evaluated

July 24-26vs. CHCRotblattJuly 28-30@ ATLVic SageAugust 1-3@ FLATheOldMoleAugust 4-6vs. PHI86-DreamerAugust 8-10vs. SDduanAugust 11-13@ WSHseawolf17August 14-17@ PHIholychickenAugust 18-20vs. COLsmg58August 22-24vs. STLLundyAugust 25-27vs. PHIdinosaur jesusAugust 29-31@ COLMex17September 1-3@ HOUrpackratSeptember 4-6vs. ATLHahnSoloSeptember 7-10vs. LADDiamond DadSeptember 11-13@ FLAPatchyFoggSeptember 15-17@ PITGYCSeptember 18-21vs. FLAThe Big OSeptember 22-25vs. WSHvaladius September 26-28@ ATLCenterfieldSeptember 29- October 1@ WSHKC Okay, Rotoblatt is the "weakest link" Vic, you are on the clock for the weekend set in Atlanta.

Elster88 wrote: What does Right Zambrano mean? All Star Carlos Zambrano as opposed to broken down Victor Zambrano ala Right Maddux being Greg, wrong Maddux being Mike Right Matsui is Godzilla Hideki on the MFY, wrong Matsui was our Mat-suki the not so great Kazuo

http://www.kcmets.com/Pictures/jay_satan.jpgSac bad, could be worse though Okay, gotta go to a Cost Accounting Class. Keep Offense Going GUYS!

Tom Glavine has been To-MAS Glav-VINE the last few starts!

Runners on corners! GULP!

Edgy DC wrote: EEE: Gary reminds us that Zambrano held the Mets hitless through five his last go against them, then we jumped oon him in the sixth after he ran the bases. I was at the Sunday game with an uncle who said Pelfrey was pitching a perfect game in the 2nd. He proceeded to lose the perfecto, no hitter and shutout, and eventually the game. I told my uncle that the Met loss was on HIS HEAD!

Or is that GeniOUS!

END-Y CHA-VEZ!

All 3 HR solo shots so far Mets Flagship in honor of 660th post!

Nevin and Ramirez with the, ehem "Back to back and a Belly to Belly!"

Yancy Street Gang wrote: I still don't understand that green SpongeBob guy. Thats because its from Aqua Teen Swim or whatever its called. Different show on Comedy Central I believe. Don't watch either, just took Z's idea to another level

CAR-LOS BEL-TRAN!

Cubs Pierre CF Walker 2B Ramirez 3B Nevin 1B Murton LF Jones RF Blanco C Cedeno SS Zambrano P Mets Reyes SS Lo Duca C Beltran CF Delgado 1B Wright 3B Floyd LF Valentin 2B Chavez RF (Nady day off I presume?) Glavine P MET OFFENSE! UNITE, ASSEMBLE and ENGAGE!

TransMonk wrote: The show's better during football season...the rest of the year, it's just a Sportcenter anchor and a guy that knows football spouting recycled garbage. I'd like it better if Greenberg wasn't a shameless Yankees/Jets fan, because that is where all discussions tend to lead. BTW just remembered one thing about Greenberg, a trait he shares with alot of broadcasters (and writers as well) is a need to rush to calling something "The best ever" or "Worst ever" ect Probably best example of this, and in part I guess is blamed on the national media and the Red Sox pounding the Curse and how it was originally connected to the Yankees and how the Yankees had 26 championships since 1918 to the Sox' none, but the day after Game 7 of the ALCS Greenie declared the Curse was DEAD! Naturally Sox Nation, and everyone who ever heard of the Curse, called and emailed saying Greenie was nuts since the Curse was tied into winning a World Championship, it had nothing to do with beating the Yankees, after all 7 times since 1918 the Sox finished in first in the same league/division that the Yanks were in. Also to this end, I forget who it was, but some FOX guy was doing a Man In The Stands interview with this old lady in Fenway in one of the first two games of the World Series and he asked her if she ever thought the Sox would be this close to winning a World Series! Geez...

Uh Rotoblat? I believe this is now the first KTE all year that there was no KTE thread the day of the first game of the series

metsmarathon wrote: i love my two thousand or so 1987 topps baseball cards, wherein i think i have about twenty ben ogilvie's and nowhere near a complete set. ugly ass wooden cards. Hey a Brewers fan would pay up to...uh...15 bucks...err cents for those! Heard a story about couple of years ago though where this real cretin of a card seller actually told a kid I know that he was getting a complete set of 1987 Topps at a bargin since it had "Barry Bonds' Rookie Card" when in actuality the kid bought it around book value.

Frayed Knot wrote: I remember an investment advisor suggesting I buy stock in one of the baseball card companies (forget which one). I got the idea he wasn't a sports fan and I told him I wanted no part of it since most of the companies in it were fly-by-night and a shake-out in the industry was sure to follow since the value of those things was based almost entirely on the fact that people thought the value would forever increase. One of the few good moves I've made in my life. Heh, so true. Topps and Upper Deck are the only real "safe" companies

="SteveJRogers"]ABG wrote: Klapisch sez Darling to join the SNY booth with Cohen and Hernandez. Example 1A of over-sentimentality. Darling is among the worst announcers I've heard this side of Bill Maas. http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjczN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkxMTQmZmdiZWw3Zjd2cWVlRUV5eTY4NDgxNjUmeXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXk2 Any change to that thought ABG? Just curious, not being a wisen-heimer or anything Vic Sage Jul 25 2006 04:05 PM i didn't see if you mentioned this already, but Jason Tyner is playing CF for the Twins these days. SteveJRogers Jul 26 2006 02:44 PM Randy Johnson's personal catcher has been DFA MFS62 Jul 28 2006 01:57 PM (This could have been in the Tides thread, too.) Matt Ginter was the winning pitcher in last night's game against the Tides. Ginter is currently 4-10 with a 3.66 ERA for Indianapolis in the International League. Side note: Fonzie went 0-4 and is now on the Interstate. LAter SteveJRogers Jul 28 2006 09:21 PM Mike Stanton moves to San Fran Edgy DC Jul 30 2006 03:36 AM Our common threads for today: light hitting infielders from the Seaverless interregnum and Kentucky. Doug Flynn. Tim Foli.

ABG wrote: Klapisch sez Darling to join the SNY booth with Cohen and Hernandez. Example 1A of over-sentimentality. Darling is among the worst announcers I've heard this side of Bill Maas. http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjczN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkxMTQmZmdiZWw3Zjd2cWVlRUV5eTY4NDgxNjUmeXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXk2 OE Opps, thought I hit the edit button and I hit the reply button! Darling did the Nationals last year rendering my question answered

Yancy Street Gang wrote: We've seen you fly off the handle. You're more Mad Dog than you are Mike. Heh, you should've seen me after the Roaster walked in the winning run in 1999!

From the A-P Baseball Card II thread ]SteveJRogers 437) Pumpsie Green 3B, 1963 Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 649 Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:27 am Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a pretty darn good card, and you can get it pretty cheap. Really, thanks to overproduction of base sets and the High End craze of paraell (sp) sets and memorabillia/autograph cards and Lord knows what else, you can find this first apperance in a Topps base set of one of the top 5 catchers of all time as well as a borderline HOFer Also an ex-Met for 4 games before becoming another nameless and faceless backup backstop and a fellow drafted by the Yanks who never played a single MLB game! I'm not as serious as Seawolf, but I do know my stuff, I'm not the Mike Francesa of this board or anything

RealityChuck wrote: Hell, by the 80s, only a fool would think current cards would be worth all that much. Prior to 1970, maybe, but that was because people would throw out their cards. Older cards were rare, which made them valuable. But by 1980 everyone knew not to throw out their cards. So no rarity, no value. BTW, this pattern has occurred in other hobbies. Stamp collecting, for instance, went through something similar in the 60s or so: stamps became valuable, bringing in speculators, inflating the prices and driving out the casual collector, and, when the bubble bust, leaving the hobby a shell of its former self. I was lucky -- the majority of my cards are from 1970 or older. I assume they have dropped a bit in value, but I do see my Bill Denehy Rookie Card is currently over $200 on eBay. Heh, wonder what Jerry Koosman's rookie card is up to now. Jerry likes to kid the fella he shares it with about the value

Good point with the saturation. I should have included that as well. Thats why as Yancy said you had all those Jefferies cards being hoarded, there were more of those on the market than there were of a Johnny Bench, Tom Seaver, Nolan Ryan back in the day. Over production does not equal higher demand, just means you are left with a ton of Mackey Sassers and Randy Milligans as well as your Cal Ripkens and Dennis Eckersleys. Hell at the height of over production of the market Leaf-Donruss actually boasted about having the most Frank Thomas (the current one) cards in their products than any other company (Thomas was under license so clearly they wanted the most bang for their buck) and had multiple Thomas cards all over the base sets and various chase and subsets Popularity of a player though does come into play somewhat as well though, which is where the Piazza on the all-time list comes from. Steve Carlton rates higher than Nolan Ryan on anyone's all-time list yet Ryan has more popularity, hence his card values are greater.

And thats why the big money now is in the stuff that is infused with things like cut signatures, swaths of uniforms, bats, balls, gloves, ect The base set now has been rendered irrevelant. Good news though for guys like me who perfer now to collect specific team cards with no plans for investments Though it does stink for completits because now there is more products for retired players when 10-20 years ago, once the player retired the new product they'd be on would just be a trinkle, maybe one of the big sets puts out a small "Greats" subset or a regional company or a small company (Conlon, Ted Williams, ect) (or store) puts a small set out, now retired player sets come out routinely from the big companies, including the special infused cards which means completits of retired players now have more products to try and find every year as opposed to a finite number.