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Zvon wrote: Some Phils phacts: Phils have homered in 15 straight games against the Mets. So far this year they are 7-9 against the Mets, and would have to sweep this weekend, their last meeting, to take the season series. ___________________________________________________________ Bannister walks Lieberthal to start off the second, then settles down and gets three quick outs. Make that 16

metirish wrote: Why no talk about Howard for MVP? I've heard some chatter

Edgy DC wrote: ="SteveJRogers"]I have no idea if any Phillie pheonom hurlers from the early 80's ever wound up as bad as Gen K did under Green's watch though, but he was there when they traded an aging shortstop and a young INF for Manny Trillo. The young INF? Ryne Sandberg A couple of details you're missing here. (1) Ivan DeJesus was the target of the deal, not Trillo, and Larry Bowa also went over; (2) Green was on the other side of the deal, robbing the Phils as the GM of the Cubbies. Aging SS was Bowa. Yeah, yet another example of why quick visits to easy accessabile research tools are needed, no matter how smart you think you are when it comes to mintuae of baseball trivia!

Pitchers 43 Randy Wolf Tonight vs Brian Banister 21 Jon Lieber Saturday night vs Oliver Perez 50 Jamie Moyer Sunday vs John Maine 39 Brett Myers 35 Cole Hamels Flash Gordon is on the DL so your Phillie Pen looks like this 52 Fabio Castro 46 Aaron Fultz 56 Geoff Geary 63 Ryan Madson 22 Arthur Rhodes -- Matt Smith Ex Met 00 Rick White Catchers Starter 24 Mike Lieberthal Backup 27 Chris Coste INF Starters 1B 6 Ryan Howard 2B 26 Chase Utley SS 11 Jimmy Rollins 3B 3 Abraham Nunez Bench Mid INF 4 Danny Sandoval Corner INF 23 Joe Thurston OF Starters LF 5 Pat Burrell CF 18 Shane Victorino RF 2 David Dellucci Bench RF 8 Jose Hernandez OF 29 Chris Roberson Phillies are 2 and a half game back of the Wild Card leading Cards/Reds, and trailing the Padres by a game. Histrionics: Earlier this month the Phillies saw fit to induct Dallas Green into their Wall of Fame. Manager that brought the Phils their only World Championship in 1980. That was years before this and of course I have no idea if any Phillie pheonom hurlers from the early 80's ever wound up as bad as Gen K did under Green's watch though, but he was there when they traded an aging shortstop and a young INF for Manny Trillo. The young INF? Ryne Sandberg The other Metly members of the Phillies hall: Richie Ashburn and Tug McGraw Along with runiner of a fine Fathers Day afternoon, Jim Bunning, Johnny Calison whose pinch hit walk off HR won Shea's only All Star Game, and noted Met killers (and NL killers) Steve Carlton and Mike Schmidt

Two more wins and this years team joins the 80 Win Season list 1969 100-62 .617 1st NLEast, NL Champs, World Champs 1970 83-79 .512 3rd NLEast 1971 83-79 .512 3rd NLEast 1972 83-73 .532 3rd NLEast 1973 82-79 .509 1st NLEast, NL Champs 1975 82-80 .506 3rd NLEast 1976 86-76 .531 3rd NLEast 1984 90-72 .556 2nd NLEast 1985 98-64 .605 2nd NLEast 1986 108-54 .667 1st NLEast, NL Champs, World Champs 1987 92-70 .568 2nd NLEast 1988 100-60 .625 1st NLEast 1989 87-75 .537 2nd NLEast 1990 91-71 .562 2nd NLEast 1997 88-74 .543 3rd NLEast 1998 88-74 .543 2nd NLEast 1999 97-66 .595 2nd NLEast, NL Wild Card 2000 94-68 .580 2nd NL East, NL Wild Card, NL Champs 2001 82-80 .506 3rd NLEast 2005 83-79 .512 3rd NLEast Boy, the over .500 seasons tend to come in bunches for this franchise!

With 36 games left, the Mets have to go 22-14 to win 100 games this year

Can't believe we forgot two WS MVPs

Poor Brian. He's been gone so long, he's forgotten his name!

Zvon wrote: ="metirish"]The only thing that would make a sweep of the Cardinals better is if Bobby V were the manager. ...of the Cardinals? Bobby V and TLR HATE each other

Todd Hundley doing anything? As long as we sign ex-mid 1990's Met catchers!

="Yancy Street Gang"]Phillies lost this afternoon, so even before Thursday night's game against St. Louis, the magic number has dropped to 23. Maine, the 23rd state Hey wheres John?

ScarletKnight41 wrote: Rain delay theater allowed Gary to catch us up on the news of the day - El Duque won't pitch tomorrow after all. They say he's not injured, but they're nonetheless skipping his start. Bannister will pitch tomorrow, and Oliver Perez will likely pitch Saturday. In the meantime, following his knee surgery, Ramon Castro has been moved to the 60-day DL. In his pre-game interview, Shawn Green expressed a lotof excitement about becoming a Met and about being reunited with Carlos Delgado, who helped Green out a lot in the minor leagues and at the beginning of his major league career. Thing I should have said a week ago Saturday: "Maybe its their way of getting Bannister back healthy, throw a day for him!" Ouch, Castro is done for the year then?

Gwreck wrote: Cardinals are in a tight division race. I'm guessing this game matters quite a bit to Cincinatti. Oooooh right, right right...

Gwreck wrote: ="KC"]Raining at Shea, there's going to be a little delay. They will play this one unless absolutely impossible. There is no room in the schedule whatsoever for a makeup. Will this game REALLY matter? Game 7 in the LCS? Mets are 10 games up (or around there anyway) Pick this up on October 2nd?

metsmarathon wrote: well, its not like it was the superbowl... Heh, I was trying to say more people have a connection with music than sports. Tear down Giants Stadium or tear down some Jersey Shore dive where all the legends played (Bruce, Watts, Southside, ect) and more people will be up in arms over the place that Bruce Springsteen once played rather than the place that Bill Parcells got doused with Gatorade Yes I know The Boss regularly does concerts at Giants Stadium =

KC wrote: Raining at Shea, there's going to be a little delay. Appropriate that I used a swamp dweller's song!

]Green erm It's not that easy bein' green Having to spend each day the color of the leaves When I think it could be nicer being red or yellow or gold Or something much more colorful like that It's not easy bein' green It seems you blend in with so many other ordinary things And people tend to pass you over 'cause you're Not standing out like flashy sparkles in the water Or stars in the sky But green's the color of Spring And green can be cool and friendly-like And green can be big like an ocean Or important like a mountain Or tall like a tree When green is all there is to be It could make you wonder why But why wonder, why wonder? I am green and it'll do fine It's beautiful! And I think it's what I want to be

metsmarathon wrote: what the heck is a ryman auditorium? i'm a freakin' mets fan, fer chrissakes! Home of a famous radio program out of Nashville from the late 20's till it moved to a much better and bigger locale in the early 1970's WSM in Nashville's Grand Ole Opry WSM once blanketed the country, much like KMOX did for the growth of Cardinal Nation, Grand Ole Opry did for country music and still airs the country broadcast today, though you can also catch it on Great American Country TV as well as Sirrus satilite radio All of the genres legends, and even some branched music played there. From The Carter Family, Hank Williams, Patsy Cline, George Jones, Johnny Cash, Bob Dylan (yes even him,) Conway Twitty, Vince Gill, Alan Jackson, Tim McGraw, Gretchen Wilson, ect The old bulding is still in use (actually is a church, not sure if its still used in that particular fashion) and my point was more people will shed a tear for that, than the Titans home stadium, even though one of the greatest plays in NFC championship game history happened there (unless of course the Titans start rolling with Vince Young and it becomes a Southern Lambaeu or something)

HahnSolo wrote: The Beatles also played the Forest Hills tennis stadium two years before they played Shea -- an outdoor stadium, albeit a smaller one. Does that mean when they tear that place down they should put a Beatles plaque up there? Is the Beatles appearance there more important than all the US Opens contested there? http://www.rarebeatles.com/photopg7/fh82864.htm edit: the Beatles also played Municipal Stadium in Kansas City, then the home of the Chiefs, before they played Shea the first time. Then that blows a hole in my argument. Hmmmm... Shea does get all the glory though YSG: ]There isn't even a plaque outside the Ed Sullivan Theater mentioning the Beatles' appearance there, nor Elvis Presley's for that matter. If any spot in New York should have a Beatles plaque, I'd think it would be the Ed Sullivan Theater. Ditto! Real shame that that old place was in shambles for alot of years before Dave Letterman moved in back in 94ish. Should have been some sort of pop-culture museum or shrine

Frayed Knot wrote: The sad part is starting to hear how Jeter should get the award "to make up for" all the times he has so obviously been screwed out of it in prior years ... as if there's some sort of cumulative process at work here and past misses add up to one win whether it's deserved or not. Other than 1999 has there been a year where Jeter has been an actual MVP candiate?

="Frayed Knot"]Back to Jeter for a second; It's this 'proof by anecdote' method that drives me nuts, as if Joe Mauer's higher BA on a team that steamed back into a race in the toughest division in MLB by winning something like 40 of 50 couldn't possibly have produced as many BIG hits as Jeter since us NYC-ers don't see him as often. In some minds this is strictly down to Jeter vs Ortiz and Jeter sealed it this weekend because he proved (all together now) that he's a winner!!!! Yeah, thats how Ortiz almost won it last year. Many people's sole reason for picking him was "Seems like he's always getting the game winning hit, every time!"

cooby wrote: You can't honestly think that a Beatles concert rates right up there in people's memories of baseball stadium history with the record setting homerun? Not JUST a Beatle concert, just like 715 wasn't JUST a record setting HR. A historic first for pop-culture and rock history with the first large venue concert. If the Beatles say played Fenway, or Baltimore's Memorial stadium first I wouldn't be saying anything (just like I'm not mentioning the Stones, Who, Janis, Grand Funk Railroad, Jethro Tull and all the others through the years that played Shea

="cooby"]="SteveJRogers"]="cooby"]Please try to explain this line First stadium rock concert, ever. Ask people of a certain age who know nothing about baseball, and they'll probably know Shea as the place where the Beatles performed when they played in NYC Part of pop-culture history that should be remembered, more so than the actual tennants of the place because of the historic cultural signfigance. This is just so utterly preposterous, that 3 1/2 hours later, I still can't believe my eyes. The hell with the mock infield folks, the Beatles are the only thing that ever happened there. Of any historical significance, that is. Atlanta Fulton County Coliseum. Saw a Brave World Championship won on its field, as well as one of the top NLCS moments of all time (Sid Bream scores series winning run in 1992) Saw just as many great Brave hurlers toil on the mound as Shea has seen Met hurlers (Niekro, Glavine, Maddux, Smoltz, even short timers like Sutter, Perry, Sutton) And what is the only real moment commemorated? A historic and culturally signficant event that people remember or know about, even if they never heard of Dale Murphy, Tom Glavine, Darrell Evans, Ralph Garr, Chipper Jones, Biff Porcoba, ect Thats what I mean about the Beatles at Shea. More people know the Beatles played at Shea than do know who Tom Seaver or Joe Namath were (or what stadium they played their home games in) More people have heard of the Ryman Auditorium and the Grand Ole Opry than know that the "Music City Miracle" play in the 1999 NFC Championship game happened in Nashville. If the Ryman and wherever they call the Titans home stadium were torn down, more people would demand a marker for the Grand Ole Opry than the "Music City Miracle" play Maybe the full scale was being over the top (that was a big stage) and a much smaller monument marker would be more appropriate, and "all I want" is a bit strong, but that history behind 2nd base should be commemorated in some fashion, yes more so than anything the Jets or Mets ever did, because it trancended something bigger than just baseball. There should be a marker plaque where Cleon Jones caught the final out of the 1969 World Series, there should be one right around where Bill Buckner stood as the ball dipped underneath his glove, and there should be small statues where the mound is of Tom Seaver and Jesse Orosco on his knees after the final out of 1986.

cooby wrote: Please try to explain this line First stadium rock concert, ever. Ask people of a certain age who know nothing about baseball, and they'll probably know Shea as the place where the Beatles performed when they played in NYC Part of pop-culture history that should be remembered, more so than the actual tennants of the place because of the historic cultural signfigance.