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IGT Retro Sunday Afternoon 8-20-2006
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I have a decent shot of Billy running in, hopefully I'll get it put up in a nice size on photobucket, and Billy did not do his thing behind the mound though. BTW, was it me, or did the crowd just pull a Dodger Stadium last night? The joint was rocking for most of the game, but when Milledge hit the HR and Wagner came in, it sounded like 1996, not 1986 or 2006 -
Sweet. They make a set with a Vic Wertz swining some 400+ feet away?
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Yancy Street Gang wrote: No, I was right, it was 1984. Look at how he did in July, when the Mets were fighting for first place: http://leaptoad.com/mets/profile.php?PlayerCode=0335&tabno=9&vMonth=ALL&vYear=1984 His 1986 ERA was 3.06. He had good months and bad, but he was used less often in key situations (as you said) so he really wasn't hurting the team at all. Calling him Mel Rojas isn't fair, at least to the 1986 Sisk. It was the summer of 1984 that gave him his reputation. And I'm glad he got cheered at Shea last night. I was fearing that he'd be booed, but I guess time heals many wounds. Okay, thats fair. When did he develop the arm problems? I believe that was the source of the ineffectiveness of 84-85
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Edgy DC wrote: ="SteveJRogers"]="Frayed Knot"]At least the fans had enough class not to boo Sisk's introduction. I was surprised. Me too. Doug Risk was the 1986 edition of Mel Rojas, Rich Rodriguez, Jorge Julio, ect, ect, ect... Complete disagreement coming out of my bedroom. I meant in terms of fan perception of the worst reliever to don a Met uni, not in terms of reality I.e. the Kevin McReynolds/Bobby Bonilla/Bret Saberhagen/Eddie Murray/ect effect, where a perception gets so drummed in that eventually the perception (McReynolds, Bonillia, Sabes, Murray, ect were absolute busts as Mets) becomes the reality (i.e. the notion that Beltran would become a Bonilla-esque bust as a Met) I'm not suggesting Sisk was good either, as Davey's usage of Sid and Aguliera as the long relievers in the postseason (rather than emergency, in a pinch situation starters-as-postseason-relievers generally are) suggests a lack of confidence in the big spot, I'm just saying Met Nation (if you will) sees Sisk on the level with guys that couldn't even get Al Leiter out!
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IGT Retro Sunday Afternoon 8-20-2006
stevejrogers replied to stevejrogers's topic in Archived Game Threads
Speaking of which, has anyone noticed that Mr. Met has only been wearing his snow white uni with blue cap only this year? Seems like everytime I go! I was really hoping they'd make a nifty throwback for the Big Baseball Head for the weekend -
Yancy Street Gang wrote: Sisk's worst year, I think, and the one that cemented his image in the minds of Mets fans, was 1984. I don't think he was nearly as bad in 1986. (I'm going from memory here; the stats may prove me wrong.) You are going by memory, 1984 was Sisk's best year with 15 saves amd a 2.09 ERA! 1985 is when the wheels fell off with a 5.30 ERA, and he really wasn't all that effective in 1986 and 1987 either. I mean, Davey went to two full time starters for long relief and only used Sisk as a mop-up guy in the postseason! That says alot in terms of faith in a guy.
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Frayed Knot wrote: At least the fans had enough class not to boo Sisk's introduction. I was surprised. Me too. Doug Risk was the 1986 edition of Mel Rojas, Rich Rodriguez, Jorge Julio, ect, ect, ect...
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Kind of had a 1971 retro look. The next year I think they were going for the 61 retro look with the wood grain border
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I'm concerned about Val, I don't think he's been around since Bret went all caustic fucktard at him in his "How I come up with Met nicknames" thread (over the winter, basically his reasoning for calling Billy Wagner "Nightcrawler" )
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Heading towards the end of August here August 22-24 vs. STL Lundy August 25-27 vs. PHI dinosaur jesus August 29-31 @ COL Mex17 September 1-3 @ HOU rpackrat September 4-6 vs. ATL HahnSolo September 7-10 vs. LAD Diamond Dad September 11-13 @ FLA PatchyFogg September 15-17 @ PIT GYC September 18-21 vs. FLA The Big O September 22-25 vs. WSH valadius September 26-28 @ ATL Centerfield September 29-October 1 @ WSH KC
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IGT Retro Sunday Afternoon 8-20-2006
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="Zvon"] Sweet. Like the pinstripes -
IGT Retro Sunday Afternoon 8-20-2006
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="metirish"]Here's a cool pic to start the day. OK, help me out. Row one: Backman, Johnson, Teufel, Carter, Cashen, Hernandez, Orosco, Wilson, Dykstra, Hearn Row two: Harrelson, Fernandez, Elster??, Mitchell, Santana??, Aguilera??, Strawberry, Darling, ?? (he looks 60), Sisk??, Ojeda, Niemann??, Robinson First row correct Row 2: Harrelson, Sid, Heep, Mitch, Santana, Aguilera, Straw, Darling, Sisk, Elster, Bobby O, Niemann and Robinson -
I wonder why Glenn was wearing a 1994 uni and not a retro 86 one?Only thing I can figure is that she wanted the 69 team to have some measure of reconigtionHmmm...
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And its a great Wednesday evening out in Los Angeles as the Mets take on the Dodgers, El Sid starts for the Mets, and Dennis Powell for the Dodgers. Gary is about a week away from returning from his... Uh what, its 2006? Oh I guess this was 8-20-1986 Your lineups for 8-20-2006 1:10 Sunday afternoon at Shea, Mets and Rockies: Carroll 2B Sullivan CF Helton 1B Holliday LF Atkins 3B Hawpe RF Torrealba C Barnes SS Jennings P Mets Reyes SS Milledge RF Beltran CF Delgado 1B Wright 3B Tucker LF Woodward 2B DiFelice C Hernandez P
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Okay, it appears Mothers Cookies still is in buisness, just they haven't done the Stadium Give Away sets in a long time, and Keebler took over the mantle during the last few years of the style's history, stopped sometime in the early 2000's
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This is the same stuff we got as well For those interested, here the cards are on an ebay auction: I like the fact that Maz's return was from 1986-1989 yet Topps chose an early 1980's picture for Maz's card Starting to wonder if the reason Straw was pressured into coming was that Topps didn't want the embarrasment of Kevin Mitchell being the only guy represented in the pack to be at Shea = SC = 1986 In the promo on the Mets website they made it seem there were much more cards availiable, this would be like the Mothers Cookies sets (SK, is THAT where you got your old handle from? = ) handed out on the West Coast and Texas teams (company was taken over by Keebler and no longer exists) throughout the 1980's up to the early 2000's. Essentially you got a pack that included extras and had to trade with other fans, ect. I'm not sure of the mechanism that could get you the full set though, as I do see complete sets packaged in the Mothers/Keebler packages pop up on eBay
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BTW I was trying to tell you that "Welcom A-Bord-Ick" should have been on the sign for the new Meties Good to put faces to interent handles! Hoped the little ones appreciated the old guys
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Soon we'll be down to the 13 Original Colonies!
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="OlerudOwned"] Mets Win! Oh and Keith, if ya REALLY wanna be technical about it, that guy above, he was here before the Mookster! But I appreciate the sentiments!
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OlerudOwned wrote: That's why I try to ignore the personal Win stat. Which is why, according to Howie Rose, the official scorer has an out in the rule book that gives Aaron the win
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Edgy DC wrote: You know, maybe '86 is still '86 without Rick Anderson and Kevin Elster and and George Foster and Stanley Jefferson, but they are such an indelible part of the story, and certainly worth celebrating. (Or was Elster there?) Elster, the Mets Elster, was there (he did play in the 1986 WS)
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But glad to see the late and neglected John Milner get some love
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metirish wrote: Damn but I like Jim Kaat, Leiter talking about Bernie Williams said blah blah blah Bernie is not making big money this year....Kaat.....he's not?..really...he's making more than a million isn't he?..... To be fair, it seems to be a common thing these days to think of seven figure saleries as not "big money" in the world of sports
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Awww, I'd thought you'd keep the hurler thing going with Bobby "Fresno" Jones
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Ah just fooling with ya! Just came up with first Irish river that came to mind! =
