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="Frayed Knot":2rtmhpn6]MLB Network has had him on a number of times. He is very good although it seems to me he's might be a bit too "inside" for Letterman. 90% of his audience aren't going to know whether he's any good or not.[/quote:2rtmhpn6] Good point. Though Letterman may just discuss well known guys currently active, or past greats that would be well known. PiggiesTomatoes Jul 13 2009 07:40 AM He was on ESPN a couple of months ago. I'd seen his stuff on Youtube some time ago and love it. Very entertaining. bmfc1 Jul 16 2009 06:36 PM Batting Stance Guy was great on Letterman: John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 16 2009 06:50 PM More comfy in front of the camera than I'd guess. There was something to the silent YouTube performances that were better than with the running commentary here, but... the Man is a Genius. PiggiesTomatoes Jul 16 2009 07:43 PM What a great gig. Sounds like he also has a lot of interaction and provides comic relief to major leaguers. He was very comfortable with Dave and that was at least twice in the week baseball figured prominently -- he also played catch with Mets fan Edie Falco. metirish Jul 16 2009 08:10 PM I just spent nine minutes laughing my ass off and I didn't expect that. Letterman sounded like he genuinely was loving it , his Rickey was brilliant....Rod Carew was hilarious.......great stuff Frayed Knot Jul 16 2009 09:27 PM I don't understand how he keeps all that stuff in his head. I mean I could (and did) do Morgan & Stargell back in the day (hell, everybody could) but this guy's referencing Phil Plantier for crissakes! I like how he also tacks on some guy's first few steps of running style in addition to the stance and swing. metsmarathon Jul 16 2009 09:40 PM i'm really rather disappointed that he doesn't have a timmy teuffel... Edgy DC Jul 16 2009 09:48 PM "Youklis" is like "twenty-seven." Any punchline that includes the word "Youklis" is, by definition, funny. bmfc1 Jul 17 2009 06:27 AM He's turned the alleged "least marketable skill in America" into a job: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/hiestand-tv/2009-07-16-fox-sports-batting-stance-guy_N.htm Edgy DC Jul 17 2009 07:12 AM ="metsmarathon":1l6zlqfe]i'm really rather disappointed that he doesn't have a timmy teuffel...[/quote:1l6zlqfe] Yeah, he gets through the Mets pretty well but leaves Teufel out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG-cEfbpTJU Pretty funny that he invoked Phil F. Plantier. I'd have to say. Half the fun is how he characterizes the follow-through and explosion out the box for some of these guys. Rockin' Doc Jul 17 2009 08:24 PM I like the ending when he's portraying Mookie waving Mitchell home with the tying run after he avoided Bob Stanley's wild pitch. In the background you hear BSG's little one calling out, "Daddy"! Classic.

Frayed Knot wrote: Already a couple of small historical inaccuracies have been pointed out by various sources. - Dillinger is told that the Cubs vs the Yanx is the game he's hearing on the radio ... except that the movie takes place in 1933 & 34 and the only Cubs-Yanx WS was '32. - and he's shown watching 'Porky Pig' cartoons although PP didn't debut until '35 Another biggie is the fact that the taking down of Pretty Boy Floyd was a significant catch for Melvin Purvis that it got him the job to run the Dillinger case. Problem is, Floyd was killed a few months after Dillinger was!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: and the liberties the screenwriters took with real-life history don't do all that much to further/heighten things, dramatically.) One liberty that I have know clue why they took was the fact that they removed "The Lady In Red" from the story. Oh the person is still there, but instead of red, she is wearing a "light orange" dress, as opposed to red.

I'm inching towards that Kase. It has gotten to the point though where the only thing to look forward to the rest of the way is the 40th Anniversary of the 1969 World Champs in August. Unless changes are made.

I'm nominating all three games from this weekend, 7/3-7/5. As much of a must sweep/take two out of three as a series can be in the first week of July, and the Mets end up getting swept, falling 5 back in the loss column. A lost weekend to be sure.

="Kong76"]Got a tweet from Fischneritz, confirms that Jerry does indeed care. Is that a reference to something or someone, or did you just make up a silly sounding twitter account name?

Sometimes I see both DiLauro and Bobby Pfeil listed amongst the usual gang of Postseason Roster Mets. I know DiLauro actually made it, but what was the deal with Pfeil and the roster? Was he like on the bubble and the Mets decided to go with the extra arm?

="Nymr83":2vw9pjx0]never saw that show and i like Grammar in general[/quote:2vw9pjx0] It was a show on FOX that was killed by the writer's strike that year. Patrica Heaton co-starred. At the Emmys before it premiered Ray Ramano joked that Frasier had stolen his wife! The show ran for only 17 episodes. bmfc1 Jul 02 2009 06:36 PM "Business and pleasure become intertwined when a good-looking anchor from a rival network asks Kelly out and Chuck fears that this may be a ploy to remove Kelly from WURG. Meanwhile, Marsh experiments with new sign-off lines and Gary has to cover an animal costume convention." RealityChuck Jul 02 2009 06:48 PM This makes it clear where furries rate among geeks[/url:1sxc99zu]. themetfairy Jul 02 2009 07:28 PM ="Nymr83":gvzliet7]never saw that show and i like Grammar in general[/quote:gvzliet7] The first eight episodes are available on Hulu[/url:gvzliet7]. The one with the furries was episode nine. Steve is right about the writer's strike killing the show. Even before it was canceled, the post-strike episodes weren't nearly as good as the first several. Number 6 Jul 02 2009 11:20 PM ="Benjamin Grimm":30gv58vb]Keith is saying that he got on the elevator in his hotel and there were a bunch of people in animal costumes. "The odor was horrific." Coming down from the 17th floor, he had to bail out on the 10th.[/quote:30gv58vb] He also made an ill-considered comment about meeting someone in the hotel who was stroking a pet beaver... a story which was almost definitely made up in order to be naughty while getting past the censors. If he's learned any lesson, it's that he needs to at least poorly disguise his off-color humor. Kong76 Jul 03 2009 05:46 AM Naughty? Ill-considered? Off-color? When did you join the convent, Number 6? Number 6 Jul 06 2009 10:51 AM ="Kong76":1ubkdor2]Naughty? Ill-considered? Off-color? When did you join the convent, Number 6?[/quote:1ubkdor2] I kicked the habit years ago. BTW, I didn't mean to suggest that I was offended. Just that our boy has apparently found himself a way to stay out of trouble while still being himself, for now. I think he's a bit of a lout, but I enjoy that sometimes. Fman99 Jul 06 2009 08:13 PM The perfect mid-season Mets 2009 encounter, as the Mets hitters collectively screwed the pooch this past weekend in Philly. Methead Jul 06 2009 09:03 PM Take your stinking paws off me, you damn dirty ape!

="Farmer Ted":x8x4z2rt]The virtual tour of Citi had a "Duke's" Food stand. Duke Sinder? Can this be confirmed?[/quote:x8x4z2rt] I'm not sure if anyone but the artist knew. Probably seen many other newer parks have stands with popular player names slapped on, and figured with the Ebbets motif that the Mets would eventually reach out to Duke for something in that vein. Why, who knows, I believe Snider is a full time LA resident right? Anyway, it was just an artist rendering, I'd wouldn't have put much stock into it. That being said, its too bad Bluesmoke doesn't have Rusty Staub's name slapped below it. G-Fafif Jul 01 2009 06:30 PM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":3mz9a9z3]="G-Fafif":3mz9a9z3]You'd figure with the oodles of beers available at the beer island stand out beyond center field (Big Apple Brews) that two of them would be Rheingold and Schaefer, but I don't think either's been spotted. Not even a Knickerbocker.[/quote:3mz9a9z3] They've got 'em at MFY Bank, just inside the "Great Hall," at some sort of "classic beer" stand. For $9.50 a pop.[/quote:3mz9a9z3] Pabst Blue Ribbon available by the high-priced can at MFYS III. I know the guy who helped relaunch PBR as a slightly ironic phenomenon. Marketing genius. gerrard00 Jul 02 2009 09:08 AM ="G-Fafif":3ktatvdd]I know the guy who helped relaunch PBR as a slightly ironic phenomenon. Marketing genius.[/quote:3ktatvdd] I hope that guy is building a mansion out of platinum bars as we speak. Kong76 Jul 02 2009 09:52 AM gerrard00, who is that in your avatar? Benjamin Grimm Jul 02 2009 09:53 AM I think it's Darryl Strawberry after a week of partying.

="G-Fafif"]You'd figure with the oodles of beers available at the beer island stand out beyond center field (Big Apple Brews) that two of them would be Rheingold and Schaefer, but I don't think either's been spotted. Not even a Knickerbocker. Greg, I would HOPE TO GOD that if Knickerbocker was ever brought back by whomever, that none of it ever makes it anywhere near Flushing Meadows. I'd say you should use your connections and get this done, BRING RHEINGOLD AND SCHAEFER TO CITI FIELD! But Knickerbocker, NEVAH!

Kong76 wrote: I think I'm going to need to find a new hobby for July. Training camp opens pretty soon.

Yup. And as LWFS said, its not showing up anywhere except on message boards. Yes I'm sure me and DGW will get that, but the scene it is from is classic overacting with just the line, IT'S A FAKE!

="Nymr83":4s13xmfx]anyone can make a fake list look plausible by sprikling in the cheats we know (Clemens, Arod, Giambi) the cheats we've long suspected (Juan Gonzalez, Miguel Tejada) and some random names (Abernathy, Christiansen, Mota) while avoiding those we'd hate to suspect (Ripken, Jeter, Gwynn). i can't call bullshit on the "list" but theres just no way to take it seriously either.[/quote:4s13xmfx] It does read a bit much like something a MFY fan would put together as many names are "thorns" in Yankee sides and such. bmfc1 Jun 29 2009 01:43 PM ="metirish":dswu7m3p]Bob Klapisch has in the past shared concern regarding Jeter.......hilarious reading here Derek, don't fail us now[/url:dswu7m3p][/quote:dswu7m3p] A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.... OlerudOwned Jun 29 2009 05:25 PM Looks like somebody just cobbled together whatever names they could remember from 2003. Seems as if they ran down team rosters and grabbed the notable looking names, and slapped them down in order. SteveJRogers Jun 29 2009 05:35 PM Yup. And as LWFS said, its not showing up anywhere except on message boards. Yes I'm sure me and DGW will get that, but the scene it is from is classic overacting with just the line, IT'S A FAKE! Nymr83 Jun 29 2009 05:46 PM "In the Pale Moonlight" was my favorite episode of Deep Space Nine. metsguyinmichigan Jun 29 2009 06:04 PM No Astros or Twins? No Bagwell?? Frayed Knot Jun 29 2009 07:02 PM Legit or Fake? Don't know, don't care. attgig Jun 30 2009 10:10 AM 2003 Unconfirmed Steroid list http://www.rotoinfo.com/read_article.php?articleId=318 (Merged from 2003 Unconfirmed Steroid list, 6/30/2009) Nymr83 Jun 30 2009 10:10 AM we had a post about this yesterday (Merged from 2003 Unconfirmed Steroid list, 6/30/2009) Frayed Knot Jun 30 2009 10:55 AM See the 'Legit or Fake' thread lower down on the page. The consensus seems to be that this thing appears nowhere except for this roto-site and who knows where they picked it up from. That real news orgs (or even ESPN) aren't touching it makes you think that there's no credible source behind it. So it's probably speculation even though it could be partially or even mostly correct - but I don't even care at this point. When this 2003 list does leak (and you know it eventually will) it's still just going to be merely a snapshot of that moment and certainly not remotely the last word on who is tainted and who is pure. (Merged from 2003 Unconfirmed Steroid list, 6/30/2009) Frayed Knot Jun 30 2009 11:11 AM Except now that if 'Attgig' goes looking responses to his less-than-hour-old thread on the steroids list he won't be able to find it and think he was censored or something. Nymr83 Jun 30 2009 11:13 AM ="Frayed Knot":2ox6bx81]Except now that if 'Attgig' goes looking responses to his less-than-hour-old thread on the steroids list he won't be able to find it and think he was censored or something.[/quote:2ox6bx81] beats having duplicate threads. this problem is also easily solved by reading every thread! LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 30 2009 11:29 AM Tommy Craggs of Deadspin dissects a few problematic aspects of the list. Exhibit A? ]For one thing, Jason Grimsley's name is absent. Grimsley, you'll recall, has been confirmed as one of the Juicin' 104. http://deadspin.com/5304675/why-the-new-alleged-steroids-list-is-a-crock?skyline=true&s=i Triple Dee Jun 30 2009 11:58 AM Even some of the names make it pretty dubious. Call me naive if you like, but I'd be shocked if Delgado ever juiced (Beltran, otoh, I could believe). However, whoever put the list together was thinking; Delgado had a career year in 2003 + Delgado's from PR + Steriods are probably easier to acquire in PR + Delgado's numbers have dropped since 2003 = Delgado's on the list. The formula works for a large percentage of players on the list. seawolf17 Jun 30 2009 12:01 PM The list is patently fake, for all the reasons everyone's listed. It's just too convenient. OO's probably right. It's directing a lot of traffic to that roto site, which probably helps their ad revenue, though. Frayed Knot Jun 30 2009 12:05 PM ="Nymr83":27xputm1]="Frayed Knot":27xputm1]Except now that if 'Attgig' goes looking responses to his less-than-hour-old thread on the steroids list he won't be able to find it and think he was censored or something.[/quote:27xputm1] beats having duplicate threads. this problem is also easily solved by reading every thread![/quote:27xputm1] And God knows how there's a finite supply of threads so we have to conserve them ... like oil. Point being that 'Attgig' is a long-time, though less active, poster who, less than an hour after he brings up a topic, has it disappear on him. Now maybe he reads more than he posts or maybe he just missed that one, but I think sometimes in our relish to "tidy up" the board and preserve those always-endangered threads we don't consider all the angles. In this case, I think both the rush to merge and the brusque 'we already talked about that' didn't do anyone any favors. There needn't be some kind of full-time or not-at-all requirement to post here. Nymr83 Jun 30 2009 12:23 PM multiple threads bump other useful threads to the 2nd page and they create duplication of discussion and confusion. take a look at some other forums and you'll see how annoying it is when unpoliced. nobody is saying attgig or whoever else did something bad, but its proper to point out the duplicate and merge it. attgig Jun 30 2009 12:50 PM ="Frayed Knot":2ptcrfj5]Except now that if 'Attgig' goes looking responses to his less-than-hour-old thread on the steroids list he won't be able to find it and think he was censored or something.[/quote:2ptcrfj5] dangit, where'd my thread go? attgig Jun 30 2009 12:56 PM as for the list, i think it's pretty well made up list, but I don't see how rotoinfo is going to get away with it if it's fake.... even qualifying it as a rumor could open itself up to libel/slander lawsuits..

Bump, see last post on previous page.

A better question, I wonder if there are any plans for a 2000 NL Champs reunion next year? They generally do for the 1973 guys, so I wonder if the 2000 guys will get the same treatment?

Not loving the idea of a shirt with "69" on it for rather obvious reasons, but they already reprinted the yearbook, twice, and reprinted the WS program, so not much else they could give away. Cards maybe, but I guess its possible they got too many complaints about the short shrift they had with the Topps packs from 2006.

Joe Torre and Casey Stengel also qualify with that lineup!

="DocTee":25b00n1r]I said it before and I'll say it again: put Sheff at short. And fire the medical staff.[/quote:25b00n1r] Heh, that would be more amusing than Sheffield at first a few years ago! Centerfield Jun 23 2009 08:17 AM I don't understand how a bruise would get worse unless something were to hit it in the same place again. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 23 2009 08:54 AM ="sharpie":n2el9q8u]If Valdez is DFAed, then who is our backup shortstop if our regular shortstop with his broken hand can't play?[/quote:n2el9q8u] Snooze says that Argenis F. Reyes should be in town by the end of the week. Bleh! LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 23 2009 09:04 AM ="Centerfield"]I don't understand how a bruise would get worse unless something were to hit it in the same place again. From what I understand, the "bone bruise" is essentially caused by repetitive knee trauma, caused itself by centerfieldin' with a very, very degraded mensicus. Basically, the guy's got no padding; with nothing in there dispersing body weight/knee friction when he's running/sliding/jumping, it's more or less bone on bone when the knee is compressed (and apparently has been for a while). This is potentially a career shortener, unless something drastic (microfracture?) can be done... but said drastic measures have pretty significant recovery times and no guarantees. (Orthopedist in the family.) Centerfield Jun 23 2009 10:30 AM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]="Centerfield"]I don't understand how a bruise would get worse unless something were to hit it in the same place again. From what I understand, the "bone bruise" is essentially caused by repetitive knee trauma, caused itself by centerfieldin' with a very, very degraded mensicus. Basically, the guy's got no padding; with nothing in there dispersing body weight/knee friction when he's running/sliding/jumping, it's more or less bone on bone when the knee is compressed (and apparently has been for a while). This is potentially a career shortener, unless something drastic (microfracture?) can be done... but said drastic measures have pretty significant recovery times and no guarantees. (Orthopedist in the family.) Well that's fucking scary. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 23 2009 11:36 AM ="Centerfield":2wgdz0wy] Well that's fucking scary.[/quote:2wgdz0wy] Yep. Think kneecap-into-tibia, a thousand little collisions a game. I wish there were a way for every WFAN caller/hack Newsday columnist bitching about Los' bum-ness/lack of smilesmanship to feel that for just one day. I've just spent 20 minutes of waiting-for-meeting time Googling various of the treatment options. It has not made me feel any better. TEMPORARY Injection of Synvisc ("joint lubrication") is a palliative, intended to delay knee/tissue replacement surgery, and good for up to 6 months of pain relief. Return in 2-4 weeks. Drawbacks: Ineffectiveness, minor knee inflammation. LONG-TERM --Microfracture surgery(drilling of tiny holes to promote blood flow/tissue regeneration in affected area). Drawbacks: Regenerated tissue is more like scar tissue than original meniscus, leading to possible stiffness/less flexibility; includes 9-12 months of recovery time before return to competition. --Cartilage implantation/transfer. Drawbacks: Risk of tissue rejection; significant risk of infection, subsequent surgeries to clear scar tissue; includes likely 16-month recovery period. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 23 2009 11:47 AM You guys are overlooking mole reimplantation surgery, whereby a team of surgeons carefully remove Beltran's ear-mole, then implant pillowy portions of it between his kneecap and tibia on both legs for added shock absorption, strength and character. (Remaining mole remnants may be used to relieve John Maine's shoulder impingement). Fman99 Jun 23 2009 11:52 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3cm82p80]You guys are overlooking mole reimplantation surgery, whereby a team of surgeons carefully remove Beltran's ear-mole, then implant pillowy portions of it between his kneecap and tibia on both legs for added shock absorption, strength and character. (Remaining mole remnants may be used to relieve John Maine's shoulder impingement).[/quote:3cm82p80] I am coo coo for Carlos' cocoa puff reconstruction surgery. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 23 2009 11:53 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":ehy87zf8]You guys are overlooking mole reimplantation surgery, whereby a team of surgeons carefully remove Beltran's ear-mole, then implant pillowy portions of it between his kneecap and tibia on both legs for added shock absorption, strength and character. (Remaining mole remnants may be used to relieve John Maine's shoulder impingement).[/quote:ehy87zf8] Shit-- you're right. Double shit-- why didn't they make the Citi shoulder patches out of Voltron mole? There's got to be some clutch-boosting/collapse-repellent properties in there, no? Gwreck Jun 23 2009 12:01 PM I believe Magglio Ordonez had the microfracture procedure done successfully. Elster88 Jun 23 2009 01:21 PM For the record, has anyone seen a report saying that Beltran has the condition that LFWS is talking about? IIRC, bone bruise doesn't necessarily mean "no cartilage". Frayed Knot Jun 23 2009 04:29 PM ="Elster88"]For the record, has anyone seen a report saying that Beltran has the condition that LFWS is talking about? IIRC, bone bruise doesn't necessarily mean "no cartilage". Well, 'loss of' cartilage might be a better way of phrasing it than 'none'. From Will Carrol at 'Baseball Prospectus' Beltran's knees have lost a lot of cushion, so much so that he's occasionally had bruising where the femur hits the tibial plateau. That's very bad long term, and not a good sign in the short term either. There has been discussion of possible fixes like Synvisc, or the even more radical procedure of [meniscus replacement]. Beltran has two more years to go on his Mets contract, but it includes a lot of deferred money. He could be a good fit for a deal to an AL club this offseason. Now it probably should be pointed out that Carrol has, in the past, shown a tendency to treat assumptions as facts and that there are certainly degrees of cartilage loss that needn't mean major surgery. Edgy DC Jun 23 2009 07:21 PM Maybe he becomes a good fit, Will Carroll, but he also becomes a five-and-dime man. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 23 2009 07:49 PM ="Elster88"]For the record, has anyone seen a report saying that Beltran has the condition that LFWS is talking about? IIRC, bone bruise doesn't necessarily mean "no cartilage". A bone bruise in the knee is just that-- bone on bone due to loss of the meniscus or other cartilage. He's had three stretches in the last two years where he's either missed time or been hampered by a "sore knee" or "bruised knee" (mid '06, late '07 and earlier this year). As these things tend to be degenerative-- your meniscus sure as hell doesn't grow back on its own-- that doesn't bode well for time #4 (especially since uncommonly-tough Beltran is the one saying he can't play through this). Though Carroll is a bit of a leaper sometimes, gun-to-head, I'd probably bet it's closer to a worst-case scenario than the best-case one. Beltran as something other than the Beltran we've known is a somewhat depressing thought. That said, getting F-Bomb some apprentice work in center-- with one of the world's finest tutors at his elbow-- doesn't seem like a terrible idea.

Are you sure it wasn't based on exactly who they were stockpiling the roster with as opposed to the practice in general? There is a difference between "proven crap" and stockpiling AAAA players, or journeymen.

Going to be a bit tied up with several issues around that time, so the Independence Day Weekend series is up for grabs. So to the Phillies, I must say

metsmarathon wrote: i just saw iron man over the weekend. i think all of my problems with the movie are related to technical / technological issues that are mostly related to my experience as a weapons engineer. i think the biggest thing is how he was able to fly from malibu to afghanistan and back on presumably one tank of gas. that's pretty fucking impressive. i'll gloss over the bulletproofiness of his suit, which is too thin to protect against a direct hit, but should suffice for glancing blows against smaller cal weapons. but really, what self-respecting terrorist organization doesn't own a single RPG, against which iron man should have no defense whatsoever? that shit'll pop a hole through his shell like a hot skewer through butter! also, all that ordnance bouncing around in that cave, and no stray bullets make it to his very exposed eye sockets? ok, sure. whatever. somebody already mentioned why a weapons manufacturer would be selling clearly marked weapons to terrorists, but my question is, how stupid does a weapons manufacturer have to be to DIRECTLY sell illegal arms to terrorists? i mean, damn, at least prop up a clandestine arms dealer! and finally, stark's gotta do a little better job developing insensitive munitions. i mean, a little blast from a flame thrower glances on the outer casing of a missile and it goes friggin' high order, taking with it an entire stockpile of ammo? c'mon! he's gotta do better than that... but on the whole, i rather liked it. definitely one of the better superhero movies i've seen, by a whole lot. of course, i stopped my dvd before the end of the credits, and its already on its way back to netflix. what'd i miss? We are going into believability in a world where a guy has the attributes of a Spider? Granted Spidey isn't going to be any where near the Marvel Studio productions, sadly actually, but still, I'm not sure if getting carried away in "Oh this is complete bull shit" is the right way to go when talking about comic book films!