stevejrogers

Defenders of the Batman series will say that it was doing what the comics were doing at the time. Batman wouldn't become the dark brooder the movies and animated series of the 80s and 90s until Frank Miller's "The Dark Knight" came along. I would say Hulk gets a ton of points off for me because of the way the they essentially created their own mythos for the Banner character. Hell, because "Bruce" is a "typical" homosexual name (whatever the hell that means) they changed the name to "David Banner." Which in hindsight probably did give the producers more license to make the show completely brand new, with no real relationship to any thing that ever happened in the comics. Although I believe Stark Industries gets a mention somewhere, but Tony/Iron Man is never mentioned. They did do some backdoor pilots for possible "spinoffs" for other Marvel based characters in the TV movies. The Return of The Incredible Hulk features Donald "Thor" Blake, I have not seen this to tell you much about how "true" they stick to Thor and Thor's mythos. The Trial of The Incredible Hulk (which features a young Michael Imperioli in a small role) does feature Matt "Daredevil" Murdoch and Wilson "Kingpin" Fisk (play by Rhys Davis, who seems a bit short for the role). While the characters do ring true for both Daredevil, (Daredevil's origin story and reason for being is the same as the comics) and Kingpin, the setting and ancillary characters are a bit off. 1) It is clearly not New York City/Hell's Kitchen. Looks like somewhere in the mid-west standing in for mid-town Manhattan in the middle of a lush area. 2) Not only is Murdoch seen to be a more high powered lawyer than his comic counterpart, they flip the sexes of their version of Foggy Nelson (Murdoch's partner) and Karen Page (their secretary). It is good, for a late 80s TV movie especially if you forget the fact that you aren't watching "Daredevil" and "Kingpin" from the comics, but rather this TV show's version of them.

Wow, Vic forgot his new favoritest show ever, Heroes. Others that come to mind: Dataman and Holmes and Yo-Yo. Max Headroom was a quasi-superhero show also. I think Vic was going for adaptations of comic book characters, rather than newly constructed characters for a TV program. Otherwise Buffy The Vampire Slayer and Angel should be on the top of the list as well.

AG/DC wrote: Is "Stark Industries" still posting at the MOFo? There is a Stark_International that posted once last summer that occasionally shows up in the "logged on" list. Could be the same guy.

You can have Hughes and Kennedy! Note to self, NEVER pick Yankees and expect to deal them off to the Yankee fans in your league...ESPECIALLY if you ask for Albert Pujols!

Benjamin Grimm wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_616 It seems (from this article, at least) that the 616 term is pretty obscure, at least within the stories themselves. Now I'm less surprised that I never heard of it. Heh, I've just seen it referenced in various Marvel comic forums as part of the "lingo" describing the Marvel Universe's "current" continum. I didn't realize just HOW obscure the reference was though! Ehh guess it's just the way fans refer to stories that happen in the main timeline or something.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: You're right, they're pretty much pretending the first Hulk movie didn't happen. I've heard that this is also somewhat of a "sequel" to the Bill Bixby/Lou Ferringo TV show in the same vein that Superman Returns follows Richard Donner's Superman II. Though the TV show had little to do with the Marvel 616 universe and the movie is going to have references and appearances galore of Hulk's comic cast. Not to mention the pesky problem that Banner in the show was "David" not "Bruce"

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Well, they've changed his 1960's Viet Nam origin. I think instead it's in Afghanistan, although I'm not sure of that. Thats more of an update though, as opposed to making Peter Parker's webbing organic instead of a technological creation.

AG/DC wrote: Father of the Bride set in Southern California. You're perhaps thinking of Parenthood. Bingo! Seems Parenthood, Martin's FOTB and Cheaper By The Dozen are all the same film, thats probably what made me get confused.

St. Louis IIRC it was the setting of the Steve Martin remake of Father of The Bride. Don't know about the Spencer Tracy/Liz Taylor remake.

Another Chicago one, Rookie Of The Year with Gary Busey and Daniel Stern along with a pre-pre American Pie Thomas Ian Nicholas and cameos by Barry Bonds, Bobby Bonilla and Pedro Guerrero.

Am I the only one that finds it amusing that the first Harvard grad to become President is being portrayed by not only a Yalie, but a Yale Legacy as well?

AG/DC wrote: SteveJRogers wrote: To what, This Movie Reeks of Adams, Adams, Admas? I'm not sure what that means. I want to edit it because (1) it's hard to rate a film on a scale of 2-5, (2) we usually start with the lower rankings first and I suspect peeps oft mis-vote when confronted by the inverse, and (3) it works better with ten gradations than with five, or four as you have here. Sorry I thought you wanted a better line from 1776. Yeah sure, go ahead with the voting scale edit

Of course I forget to say, it kicks off Sunday night at 8 for a two hour premiere.

To what, This Movie Reeks of Adams, Adams, Admas?

In the 1960s, the Broadway musical and movie 1776 brought John Adams back from the depths of long forgotten historical figures and placed him in his rightful place among the famous of the Founding Fathers. Now Tom Hanks and HBO brings David McCullough's engaging 2001 bio to life with a 7 part mini-series starting on Monday. Paul Giamatti as Adams, and Laura Linney as Abigail in the mini-series that spans over 50 years of America's birth as a nation.

Fitz is in with a Imus themed team name.

Still waiting on that Fitzsimmons kid.

The Sheen is a cousin of mine, not the same one from last year. Oddly enough is a Yankee fan out in Point Lookout, Long Island.

Speaking of which, I gave that cousin the info, he hasn't signed up yet! I may have to kick his scrawny Yankee loving ass at this point...

Debbie Clemens's Biggest Fan is a friend of the Fitzsimmons cousin of mine from last year. He, unlike my cousin, is a dedicated Met fan.

Okay, who is the FDR fan? I'm Metlennium this season.

My cousin is interested in doing it again.

Okay, lets see if I can break my run of quiting on my team before the All Star Break that goes back to my High School days.

[Trekkie Speak]Yabut in episode...AH Great Bird of the Galaxy I can't remember which, they do reference Chekov as starting pretty much when Koenig debuted. [/Trekkie Speak] Not kidding, there is some obscure reference somewhere, like McCoy or Spock rattling off a star date or some other darn thing that canonizes Chekov NOT being anywhere on the NCC-1701 at the time of the "Space Seed" episode in Season 1.

What do I owe SMG and Vic?