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No, I meant Shamsky and Darling. It was on Murray Street in lower Manhattan, a half block from City Hall Park. Edited to add: There's a reference to the address and the co-ownership on the Ultimate Mets Data Base: https://leaptoad.com/mets/profile.php?PlayerCode=0159&tabno=7https://leaptoad.com/mets/profile.php?PlayerCode=0159&tabno=7 dated December 28 2002. 17 Murray was what it was called when they owned a piece of it. Not Legends as that commenter said. There is a long running sports bar called Legends on 33rd near where the late Foley's was, But I don't know if any pro athletes are, or were attached to it. https://tribecacitizen.com/2022/06/06/the-dark-horse-will-close-this-friday/https://tribecacitizen.com/2022/06/06/the-dark-horse-will-close-this-friday/

The restaurant that Ron Darling co-owned with Art Shamsky. I know you meant Swoboda, but that'd be an interesting combo for a Met-centric establishment to have linked to it Speaking of which, I looked up Straw's old place in Douglaston. Sadly, since I like it when establishments stay relatively the same and not completely different (see CBGB now an upscale clothing store), it's now a real estate broker office https://maps.app.goo.gl/q5Z66pocDDxvypmYA?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copyhttps://maps.app.goo.gl/q5Z66pocDDxvypmYA?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copy

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=189918 time=1744921662 user_id=68] =stevejrogers post_id=189917 time=1744921360 user_id=57] ... the only Met employees in the 63-year history of the franchise I'd say deserves such an honor would be Casey Stengel and Willie Mays.

=roger_that post_id=189912 time=1744916876 user_id=128] Sorry if I offended anyone with this bit of trivia. It's a hobby of mine, NYC locales with a little obscure history behind them.

Astrodome on the most list

If postseason counts, 2 games for Baltimore's Memorial Stadium

=stevejrogers post_id=189106 time=1744135674 user_id=57] His passing during transport hasn't been reported on ESPN yet

=roger_that post_id=189077 time=1744124763 user_id=128] I am deciding that this Forum is composed of rules-defiers, sufferers of Oppositional Defiance Disorder, contrarians, and men who don't take out the trash when their spouse wants them to.

His passing during transport hasn't been reported on ESPN yet

Don’t feel like going down a rabbit hole to see if this is in fact evidence of a MLBS, but for some reason Keenan Thompson was sporting a Met uniform while in a Jack Black segment for his debut Saturday Night Live episode back in 2003. Saturday Night Network (@thesnlnetwork) • Instagram photo WWW.INSTAGRAM.COM 9,084 likes, 21 comments - thesnlnetwork on April 6, 2025: "2003: Jack Black is the SNL host for Kenan Thompson’s first episode 2025: 438 episodes later, Jack Black and Kenan Thompson are reunited".

=Gwreck post_id=188753 time=1743797521 user_id=56] =whippoorwill post_id=188706 time=1743713925 user_id=79] Hoping for a Borough Race report!

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: The first three months were not compatible with the concept of perfection. I know they made the rest of the season look better but not perfect At least now the overly optimistic fans can put away the “The 1986 Mets got off to a 3-5 start” every time the Mets get off on a slow start a week in!

My tour of the Mets minor league stadiums, kinda, continues with Spring Training action this Saturday vs the Nats and Sunday vs the Fish

Bobby Valentine would also be a three tenured Met as all three times were broken up.

Mike Jorgensen, David Cone, Hubie Brooks, Pedro Feliciano, Jeurys Familia, Bob L. Miller, Mike Jacobs. Do managers count? If so, Gil Hodges, Yogi Berra, Roy McMillan, Dallas Green (ugh!), Willie Randolph (double ugh!). But not Joe Torre, who never really "came back" to manage the Mets. Torre was already here when he was named player-manager. [FIMG=223]https://deanscards.blob.core.windows.net/thirdparty/5441932f.jpg[/FIMG][FIMG=253]https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/a00AAOSwUPhnXHs8/s-l1200.jpg[/FIMG] If you don't count Torre for that reason, you have to take away Yogi. He came in as a player-coach, and never left until being fired as skipper.

Frayed Knot wrote: That two people died in the same house a week apart without it getting reported is pretty unusual. It's certainly not typical. But it happens. People that live alone die and on occasion, nobody notices for days until the mail piles up, overflowing the mailbox and the stench of their decomposing bodies is so powerful, that the rotting smells can be picked up from distances and through walls. Hackman's case happened to get world-wide attention because he's a celebrity -- a Hollywood actor of legendary status. It happens. Woman and child found dead and decomposing in Brooklyn apartment, NYPD says By Giulia Heyward Published Mar 13, 2025 at 8:11 a.m. ET Modified Mar 13, 2025 at 10:05 a.m. ET By Giulia Heyward Police on Thursday said they discovered the decomposing bodies of a woman and child in a Brooklyn apartment after being alerted to a foul odor emanating from it. NYPD officials said officers responded to a 911 call around 2 p.m. Wednesday and went to the apartment, which is located on Dumont Avenue at NYCHA's Unity Plaza complex in Brownsville. After gaining entry, police said they found a 33-year-old woman and 7-year-old boy unconscious inside. Emergency medical workers pronounced both of them dead at the scene. Officials said they were still investigating the pair's relationship and the circumstances of their deaths. Police officers were present at the building Thursday morning. The city medical examiner's office was also working to determine their causes of death, according to the NYPD. This is a developing story based on preliminary information from police and has been updated with additional information. https://gothamist.com/news/woman-and-child-found-dead-and-decomposing-in-brooklyn-apartment-nypd-sayshttps://gothamist.com/news/woman-and-child-found-dead-and-decomposing-in-brooklyn-apartment-nypd-says ___________ These were ordinary citizens. The story was picked up in a local paper. You can imagine how many other ordinary people died under those same circumstances just today and yesterday, where their dead bodies weren't discovered promptly. It happens. And it tends to go unreported. Hackman's case was plastered all over the news only because he was a legendary Hollywood actor. And my point with that case is the same with Hackman, maybe more tragic knowing how far gone he was with Alzheimer's that he probably assumed the girl in the other room was taking a nap. Where were those personally known to them, ie nuclear family members? Were there supposed to be professionals that were supposed to be making routine checks on them? etc. In any event, point was in comparison to the manner of Gallagher's. Probably should have used a former player who met a similar in terms of someone falling through the cracks in terms of being off the grid from people who should have been able to help them along.

Love to see the stats, and I'll probably run them myself if I get some free time at my laptop later, that suggests how much the opposite of that shirt became true Certainly the team whose logo little Mikey would be sporting on his HOF plaque's cap, the guy on the left owned back in his day

Edgy MD wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Yeah, I do not know what is in dispute. You seemed to be coming off like Met fandom should have been more aware of Bob Gallagher's passing back in August. I am not coming off like anything. I wrote that something was sad. I wrote that because it was sad. I did not and would not indict my fellow fans. Then I apologize for my inference and not just thread derailment, but change in transportation method entirely

Met Hunter wrote: On another note, I met Bob at a public signing in 2006 in NJ with other lesser seen Mets Doc Medich and Johnny Stephenson. He seemed like a good guy and told my two kids to study hard in school and pay attention to Mom and Dad. Told me he was a longtime educator. Yup. It's all over his bio on Sabr https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/Bob-Gallagher/ https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/Bob-Gallagher/

Edgy MD wrote: Yeah, I do not know what is in dispute. You seemed to be coming off like Met fandom should have been more aware of Bob Gallagher's passing back in August. And lamenting the fickleness of “fame,” such as it can be for certain persons, and how quickly it can fade, that can make one not realize the passing of someone they still retain knowledge of what made them notable (ie obscure and random 1970s infielders for the baseball team you rooted for). Despite the fact that his passing was handled normally by those personally known to him and was appropriate in terms of the anonymity he sought after his playing career ended. He was not discovered dead for many days by someone making a work order appointment, or police responding to a potential dead person in the domicile report. That really the point of why I think you are lamenting a bit too hard over not knowing some random obscure 1970s Met died until months after the fact.

Frayed Knot wrote: I'll add that it really should be considered unusual for time frame and the persons who ended up finding them. These may have been recluses, but they certainly were not a pair of Eleanor Rigbys. They certainly have living loved ones and friends, etc. Yet NO ONE bothered to see how they were!? While a week (nine days?) is a long time to be dead inside your house, it's not necessarily a long time to not hear from a friend or family member. Lots of things about this story were odd. That one is way down the list IMO. I was trying to imply it the whole time, but I was trying to make an indictment about their strained relationship with their kids (assuming she had at least one prior to her marriage to Gene). Apparently they hadn't had contact with Gene in 4 months or so. That's the family part where I coming from, the direct nuclear one, not some random nephew, cousin, etc that you only know from social media posts.

Frayed Knot wrote: Well of course the coverage of Gene Hackman's death is because he's Gene Hackman. But I'd call the circumstances -- where a couple of differing ages die of completely different causes just a few rooms apart and, most notably, A WEEK apart, and where the longer survivor either doesn't realize or can't process that the other is dead -- as extremely unusual. If one of them isn't Gene Hackman then it's merely a local story rather than a (inter)national one. But that certainly doesn't make even remotely a common one. More like something perhaps the writers for CSI: Santa Fe might make up. I'll add that it really should be considered unusual for time frame and the persons who ended up finding them. These may have been recluses, but they certainly were not a pair of Eleanor Rigbys. They certainly have living loved ones and friends, etc. Yet NO ONE bothered to see how they were!?

Edgy MD wrote: Edgy MD wrote: I am certain that Hackman's and Arakawa's families were notified before a public announcement was made. That is besides the point I was making. It is in response to a statement you wrote in support of the point you were making. You are being way too semantical. Yes, because it was a police investigation, they would not have revealed Hackman's and Arakawa's names until after next of kin or emergency contacts or whomever have been notified. The public announcement via press outlet release/social media/etc was not withheld per family request for whatever reason. My point is still that considering they were discovered by maintenance workers, their demises were most likely literally breaking news to those personally known to them, who most likely should have been aware earlier than hearing it from police investigation officials.

Edgy MD wrote: I am certain that Hackman's and Arakawa's families were notified before a public announcement was made. That is besides the point I was making. The point I was making is that since they were both dead for at least a week, her longer, many personally connected or known to them were unaware of their condition until what you are are describing, or worse when the public information was released.

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=186932 time=1741630702 user_id=68] I don't think that the circumstances surrounding Hackman's death are so unusual -- at least in this sense: about 9,000 people die in the US every day. The odds are that on occasion, somebody's death will slip through the cracks and go unnoticed for longer than what is ordinary or expected. It happens --- usually to a decedent living alone -- this time to a married couple who each died close in time to each otber. Its just that this incident received worldwide attention because of Hackmqn's celebrity.