There has been no Met with exactly 15 losses since 1993, when both Dwight Gooden and Frank Tanana turned the Grote trick. Others: Viola, 1991; Koosman and Espinosa, 1978; Matlack in 1977 and 1974; Kooz in 1973; and Galen Cisco in 1963. So I'm in good-ish company, I guess. Never afraid to take the ball, at any rate.