Benjamin Grimm

Tatis 2.2 Heilman 1.2 Reyes 1.3 Castillo 1.3 Chavez 1.1 Beltran 0.7 Schoeneweis 0.7 Wagner 0.7 Perez 0.4 Sanchez 0.4

] * Aguila has been doing Polynesian fire knife dancing since he was in the fifth grade. That sounds even more dangerous than flying from Atlanta to Denver with a concussion.

Didn't I read that Brady was out for the remainder of the season with an injury?

I don't know about his Mets interest, but Caro appeared as a Brooklyn Dodgers fan in the HBO documentary The Ghosts of Flatbush. The Power Broker was a terrific read. I'm looking forward to reading Caro's LBJ books, but I'm not going to get started until the last one has been published. (Which might take another ten years or so.)

Anyone who's been paying attention the last seven years knows that science is "faulty."

AG/DC wrote: I'm guessing Skip is the only Met to get a homer and a save in the same game. Yes, he is. Lockwood got a save and a home run on July 17, 1978. Two relievers have homered and saved against the Mets. (Enrique Romo on October 1, 1980 and Mitch Williams on September 18, 1989) There have been 46 games where a Mets pitcher got both a save and a base hit. The last time it happened was Allen Watson on April 6, 1999. Two Mets have had two hits in games that they saved: Bob Apodaca on July 28, 1975 and Ed Lynch on July 25, 1984. Six Mets have doubled in games that they saved. Skip Lockwood did it twice, to celebrate the bicentennial on July 4, 1976 and again on July 20, 1978. Others who did it once were former Seattle Pilot Jack Aker on July 12, 1974; Bob Apodaca on September 4, 1974; Ed Lynch on July 25, 1984; Roger McDowell on August 25, 1985; and Randy Myers on August 23, 1988. No Mets pitchers have tripled in games that they saved.

Church should absolutely not get on an airplane again until his symptoms are completely behind him. I'd DL him, right now. His long-term health (and availability) are more important than any games the Mets will play in the next fifteen days.

Oh, I see. (But I suspect Goossen and Davis knew somehow that they were destined to be Pilots.)

G-Fafif wrote: Skip one of four ex-Pilots to be Mets. There are actually six: http://leaptoad.com/mets/oppteams.php?ThisTeam=33

One voter gave Beltran a zero, which surprised me.

Santana 3.8 Tatis 2.2 Castro 1.8 Wagner 1 Sanchez 0.8 Beltran 0.2 Castillo 0.2

VOTING FOR THIS GAME IS NOW CLOSED Totals for May 22, 2008 (13 votes) Atlanta Braves 4, New York Mets 2 NameTotal PointsPoints AwardedPlayer PerformanceJohan Santana31.282.41(L) 7.0 IP, 12 H, 3 ER, 0 BB, 1 SO.Carlos Beltran18.481.422-4, R, HR, RBI, SB.Carlos Delgado14.211.091-4, R, HR, RBI, SO.Pedro Feliciano10.450.801.0 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 2 SO.Ryan Church0.620.051-1.David Wright0.500.041-4.Endy Chavez0.310.021-3, 2B.

Four (count 'em!) four games will be closing tomorrow. All three weekend games against the Rockies in Denver, as well as Monday night's homestand opener against the Marlins at Shea: Schaefer POTG 5/23/08 - Rockies 6, Mets 5 Schaefer POTG 5/24/08 - Mets 9, Rockies 2 Schaefer POTG 05/25/08 Colorado 4, Mets 1 Schaefer POTG 5/26/08 - Marlins 7, Mets 3

He has a British mouth.

I'm guessing it's Mike Carp. I agree that cutting Delgado is unwise at best, foolish at worst.

metsguyinmichigan wrote: What's the downside? That's the same thing Barbara Walters said when she hired Rosie O'Donnell for The View.

seawolf17 wrote: Blow 'em up and start over. That option will never be on the table. Any shake-up would be to help them win in 2008. And if they don't win in 2008, the focus will be on winning in 2009.

Heilman probably ought to go down, but that would suck for him coming off two good innings yesterday. Sanchez and Wise are the other most likely candidates for demotion.

I agree. Either fire him or stand solidly behind him. This extended twisting-in-the-wind thing isn't good for anybody but the sportswriters.

Ignoring you from this point forward.

Batmag should be banned from this thread.

That's a tough one. Who are their players with the greatest trade value? Wright, for sure, but he's not going anywhere. Maine, too, but I'd keep him as well. Santana has a no-trade, and I'm pretty sure Beltran does too. Alou, during an interlude when he's healthy, might have some value to a contender who'd like a veteran PH/DH for the stretch run, but that's more of an August 31 thing, if ever. The Mets are pretty well-fixed at catcher. They could possibly trade Schneider or Castro and promote Casanova. But you're not going to get a big-time player for either of those guys. Reyes' trade value is probably down from where it was last fall, but it's probably still pretty high. I think Perez could bring a good return too. Delgado: little or no value. Castillo: same. Vargas: Probably not much. Pelfrey: I bet somebody would take a shot at him. For the short term, it's not really a shakeup but I'd let Evans keep playing so we can see what he can do. Let Pedro displace Pelfrey, and send Pelfrey to New Orleans. I won't put Ryan Church on an airplane any time soon. The next Mets road trip is to San Francisco: If Ryan's not on the DL, hire a Winnebago with a couple of changes of drivers and drive him non-stop cross country. And let him travel by ground to the next stop, San Diego. And continue that way as long as it's necessary, and a little longer than that. I once flew with a bad head cold, and it messed me up for about a day. Flying with a concussion is apparently a lot worse, and just plain has to be avoided.

If the Mets are going to hire an 86er to manage the team, I'd prefer Wally to Carter, but Keith over Wally. (By a wide margin.) And then there's Tim Teufel, managing the St. Lucie Mets to a robust 11-39 record so far. He looks to be putting himself further down the depth chart than Howard Johnson.

He can run while sitting? That is impressive!

Reyes 1.5 Heilman 1 Castillo 0.5 Wright 0.5 Beltran 0.5 Feliciano 0.3 Smith 0.3