Oh Oscar, Oscar, Oscar (2017 Version)

[Frayed Knot]

To be awarded Feb 26th


[u:1df4y5v5]PICTURE[/u:1df4y5v5]

ARRIVAL
FENCES
HACKSAW RIDGE
HELL OR HIGH WATER
HIDDEN FIGURES
LA LA LAND
LION
MANCHESTER BY THE SEA
MOONLIGHT


[u:1df4y5v5]DIRECTOR[/u:1df4y5v5]

DENIS VILLENEUVE - ARRIVAL
MEL GIBSON - HACKSAW RIDGE
DAMIEN CHAZELLE - LA LA LAND
KENNETH LONERGAN - MANCHESTER BY THE SEA
BARRY JENKINS - MOONLIGHT


[u:1df4y5v5]ACTOR[/u:1df4y5v5]

CASEY AFFLECK - MANCHESTER BY THE SEA
ANDREW GARFIELD - HACKSAW RIDGE
RYAN GOSLING - LA LA LAND
VIGGO MORTENSEN - CAPTAIN FANTASTIC
DENZEL WASHINGTON - FENCES


[u:1df4y5v5]ACTRESS[/u:1df4y5v5]

ISABELLE HUPPERT - ELLE
RUTH NEGGA - LOVING
MATALIE PORTMAN - JACKIE
EMMA STONE - LA LA LAND
MERYL STREEP - FLORENCE FOSTER JENKINS


[u:1df4y5v5]SUPPORTING ACTOR[/u:1df4y5v5]

MEHERSHALA ALI - MOONLIGHT
JEFF BRIDGES - HELL OR HIGH WATER
LUCAS HEDGES - MANCHESTER BY THE SEA
DEV PATEL - LION
MICHAEL SHANNON - NOCTURNAL ANIMALS


[u:1df4y5v5]SUPPORTING ACTRESS[/u:1df4y5v5]

VIOLA DAVIS - [crossout:1df4y5v5]HIDDEN FIGURES[/crossout:1df4y5v5] FENCES
NAOMI HARRIS - MOONLIGHT
NICOLE KIDMAN - LION
OCTAVIA SPENCER - HIDDEN FIGURES
MICHELLE WILLIAMS - MANCHESTER BY THE SEA


[u:1df4y5v5]ADAPTED SCREENPLAY[/u:1df4y5v5]

ARRIVAL
FENCES
HIDDEN FIGURES
LION
MOONLIGHT


[u:1df4y5v5]ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY[/u:1df4y5v5]

HELL OR HIGH WATER
LA LA LAND
THE LOBSTER
MANCHESTER BY THE SEA
20th CENTURY WOMEN

Edited January 24, 2017 by Guest

[Edgy MD]

I was really hoping this would be an Odd Couple thread.

I saw Hidden Figures a few weeks back, and I may be crazy, but I don't recall Viola Davis being in it. What did I miss?

[Guest sharpie]

Viola Davis' nod is for FENCES, not HIDDEN FIGURES, although how she qualifies as a supporting actress is beyond me.

[Frayed Knot]

sharpie wrote: Viola Davis' nod is for FENCES, not HIDDEN FIGURES ...

That I got this wrong I believe makes me a racist; either that or the site I copied this off of made the mistake in which case they are and I'm in the clear.
At least I didn't call it HIDDEN FENCES IN THE MOONLIGHT

[Benjamin Grimm]

If you were really a racist, you would have called it CABIN IN THE SKY.

[Ceetar]

meh.

[Frayed Knot]

sharpie wrote: although how [Viola Davis for FENCES] qualifies as a supporting actress is beyond me.

The promotional material for LION doesn't exactly paint Dev Patel as a supporting player either.

Back in 1979 the Academy manipulated the rules by putting George Burns into the less competitive Supporting Actor category for GOING IN STYLE* in what certainly looked like a blatant attempt to arrange what was in effect a lifetime achievement award for the then 85 y/o. I'm sure it's happened other times as well although that's the only one that comes to mind. Maybe they're trying their hardest for an OSCARSNOTWHITEATALL hashtag.




* a movie which is about to be remade with Alan Arkin, Morgan Freeman, and Michael Caine in the Burns, Art Carney, & Lee Strasberg roles

[Vic Sage]

happy to see the love for ARRIVAL and HELL OR HIGH WATER.

But Amy Adams got hosed (Meryl? AGAIN?), and they went out of their way to ignore DEADPOOL.

[RealityChuck]

As a big fan of La La Land, I'm delighted. It's also great the "Audition (The Dreamers that Dream)" is up for best song.

I am disappointed the Amy Adams and Taraji P. Henson didn't get Best Actress nods.

[Vic Sage]

2016 FILMS

My top 10 so far:
ARRIVAL
LA LA LAND
HELL OR HIGH WATER
DEADPOOL
CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR
SING STREET
KUBO AND THE TWO STRINGS
LION
ROGUE ONE: A STAR WARS STORY
MANCHESTER BY THE SEA

honorable mentions:
THE NICE GUYS
DOCTOR STRANGE
MOANA
10 CLOVERFIELD LANE
HAIL, CAESAR!
THE LOBSTER
MOONLIGHT
SWISS ARMY MAN

Other films I’ve seen this year [ranked]:
SAUSAGE PARTY
STAR TREK BEYOND
MIDNIGHT SPECIAL
THE JUNGLE BOOK
FINDING DORY
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KUNG FU PANDA 3
SNOWDEN
GHOSTBUSTERS
JASON BOURNE
HIDDEN FIGURES
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X-MEN: APOCALYPSE
BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE
SUICIDE SQUAD
THE HUNTSMAN: WINTER'S WAR
THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN
MONEY MONSTER
SULLY
THE LEGEND OF TARZAN
LONDON HAS FALLEN
THE 5TH WAVE

Nominated films I still intend to see:
HACKSAW RIDGE
A MONSTER CALLS
NOCTURNAL ANIMALS

Other films I intend to see:
THE ACCOUNTANT
ALLIED
THE BFG
CROUCHING TIGER, HIDDEN DRAGON: SWORD OF DESTINY
DON'T THINK TWICE
THE EDGE OF SEVENTEEN
EVERYBODY WANTS SOME!!
FANTASTIC BEASTS AND WHERE TO FIND THEM
THE FOUNDER
FREE STATE OF JONES
HIGH-RISE
JACK REACHER: NEVER GO BACK
THE LITTLE PRINCE
MISS PEREGRINE'S HOME FOR PECULIAR CHILDREN
MY LIFE AS A ZUCCHINI
PETE'S DRAGON
PASSENGERS
PATERSON
THE RED TURTLE
THE SECRET LIFE OF PETS
WARCRAFT
ZOOTOPIA

Nominated films I have no intention of seeing:
CAPTAIN FANTASTIC
ELLE
FENCES
FLORENCE FOSTER JENKINS
JACKIE
LOVING
SILENCE
TONI ERDMANN
20TH CENTURY WOMEN

Other eligible movies of 2016:
THE ABOLITIONISTS
ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS THE MOVIE
ALICE THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS
ALMOST CHRISTMAS
ALWAYS SHINE
AMERICAN HONEY
AMERICAN PASTORAL
AMERICAN WRESTLER: THE WIZARD
THE ANGRY BIRDS MOVIE
ANTHROPOID
APRIL AND THE EXTRAORDINARY WORLD
ARMENIA, MY LOVE
ASSASSIN'S CREED
AUDRIE & DAISY
AUTHOR: THE JT LEROY STORY
AUTUMN LIGHTS
BAD MOMS
BAD SANTA 2
BARBERSHOP: THE NEXT CUT
BARRY
BEAUTIFUL PAIN
BEFORE THE FLOOD
BEING 17
BELIEVE
BEN-HUR
A BIGGER SPLASH
BILAL
BILLY LYNN'S LONG HALFTIME WALK
THE BIRTH OF A NATION
BLEED FOR THIS
BORN TO BE BLUE
THE BOSS
THE BOY
BRIDGET JONES'S BABY
THE BRONZE
BROTHER NATURE
THE BROTHERS GRIMSBY
CEMETERY OF SPLENDOR
CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE
CERTAIN WOMEN
THE CHARNEL HOUSE
CHEVALIER
CHIEF ZABU
THE CHOICE
CHRISTINE
CITIZEN SOLDIER
CITY OF GOLD
CLOSET MONSTER
COLLATERAL BEAUTY
THE COMEDIAN
COMPLETE UNKNOWN
CONFESSIONS OF A WOMANIZER
THE CONJURING 2
CREATIVE CONTROL
CRIMINAL
CROSSCURRENT
DANCER
DARK HORSE
DEEPWATER HORIZON
DEMOLITION
DENIAL
DESIERTO
DOG EAT DOG
DON'T BREATHE
DREAMLAND
THE DRESSMAKER
THE EAGLE HUNTRESS
EAT THAT QUESTION - FRANK ZAPPA IN HIS OWN WORDS
ECHO PARK
EDDIE THE EAGLE
EISENSTEIN IN GUANAJUATO
ELVIS & NIXON
EQUITY
EVERYTHING IS COPY - NORA EPHRON: SCRIPTED & UNSCRIPTED
EYE IN THE SKY
THE FINEST HOURS
FIRE AT SEA
THE FIRST MONDAY IN MAY
THE FITS
FIVE NIGHTS IN MAINE
FLOYD NORMAN: AN ANIMATED LIFE
THE FOREST
FROM AFAR
FRONT COVER
THE FUNDAMENTALS OF CARING
GENIUS
GIMME DANGER
GIRL ASLEEP
THE GIRL ON THE TRAIN
GLEASON
GOLD
GREATER
GREEN ROOM
THE HANDMAIDEN
HANDS OF STONE
HARDCORE HENRY
HELLO, MY NAME IS DORIS
HILLSONG - LET HOPE RISE
THE HOLLARS
A HOLOGRAM FOR THE KING
HOW TO BE SINGLE
HOW TO LET GO OF THE WORLD AND LOVE ALL THE THINGS CLIMATE CAN'T CHANGE
HUNT FOR THE WILDER PEOPLE
I AM NOT YOUR NEGRO
I, DANIEL BLAKE
I SAW THE LIGHT
ICE AGE: COLLISION COURSE
IN A VALLEY OF VIOLENCE
INDEPENDENCE DAY: RESURGENCE
INDIGNATION
INFERNO
THE INVITATION
IS THAT A GUN IN YOUR POCKET
ITHACA
JIM: THE JAMES FOLEY STORY
JULIETA
KEANU
KEEPING UP WITH THE JONESES
KICKS
THE KIND WORDS
KINGSGLAIVE FINAL FANTASY XV
KNIGHT OF CUPS
KRISHA
LAND OF MINE
LANDFILL HARMONIC
LAST DAYS IN THE DESERT
L'ATTESA
THE LEGEND OF BEN HALL
THE LENNON REPORT
LIFE, ANIMATED
LIFE ON THE LINE
THE LIGHT BETWEEN OCEANS
LIGHTS OUT
LITTLE MEN
LIVE BY NIGHT
LONDON ROAD
LONG WAY NORTH
LOUDER THAN BOMBS
LOVE & FRIENDSHIP
THE LOVE WITCH
MS DHONI - AN UNTOLD STORY
MAMA
MAGGIE'S PLAN
A MAN CALLED OVE
MAN DOWN
THE MAN WHO KNEW INFINITY
MASCOTS
MAX ROSE
ME BEFORE YOU
THE MEASURE OF A MAN
THE MEDDLER
MEN & CHICKEN
MIDDLE SCHOOL: THE WORST YEARS OF MY LIFE
MIFUNE: THE LAST SAMURAI
MIKE AND DAVE NEED WEDDING DATES
MILES AHEAD
MIRACLES FROM HEAVEN
MISS HOKUSAI
MISS SHARON JONES!
MISS SLOANE
MR. CHURCH
MONKEY KING: HERO IS BACK
THE MONKEY KING 2
MORGAN
MOTHERS AND DAUGHTERS
MUNE
THE MUSIC OF STRANGERS: YO-YO MA AND THE SILK ROAD ENSEMBLE
MY BIG FAT GREEK WEDDING 2
MY GOLDEN DAYS
NEIGHBORS 2: SORORITY RISING
THE NEON DEMON
NERUDA
NEVER SURRENDER
NINA
NO LETTING GO
NOW YOU SEE ME 2
O.J.: MADE IN AMERICA
OFF THE RAILS
OFFICE CHRISTMAS PARTY
OLYMPIC PRIDE, AMERICAN PREJUDICE
100 YEARS: ONE WOMAN'S FIGHT FOR JUSTICE
ORDINARY WORLD
OTHER PEOPLE
THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DOOR
THE OTTOMAN LIEUTENANT
OUIJA: ORIGIN OF EVIL
OUR KIND OF TRAITOR
OUR LAST TANGO
OUR LITTLE SISTER
OUTLAWS AND ANGELS
PATRIOTS DAY
PELE: BIRTH OF A LEGEND
PEE-WEE'S BIG HOLIDAY
PHANTOM BOY
THE PHENOM
PO
POPSTAR: NEVER STOP NEVER STOPPING
PRESENTING PRINCESS SHAW
PRICELESS
PRIDE AND PREJUDICE AND ZOMBIES
THE PURGE: ELECTION YEAR
QUEEN MIMI
QUEEN OF KATWE
RACE
THE RED PILL
THE REMAKE
REPARATION
RIDE ALONG 2
RISEN
RULES DON'T APPLY
THE SALESMAN
SARBJIT
SHADOW WORLD
THE SHALLOWS
THE SIEGE OF JADOTVILLE
SILICON COWBOYS
SILVER SKIES
SING
SNOWTIME!
SOLD
SOUTHSIDE WITH YOU
SOUTHWEST OF SALEM: THE STORY OF THE SAN ANTONIO FOUR
SPA NIGHT
STORKS
SUMMERTIME
SUNSET SONG
SWORN VIRGIN
A TALE OF LOVE AND DARKNESS
TALLULAH
TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES: OUT OF THE SHADOWS
10 DAYS IN A MADHOUSE
THEY WILL HAVE TO KILL US FIRST - MALIAN MUSIC IN EXILE
THINGS TO COME
13 HOURS: THE SECRET SOLDIERS OF BENGHAZI
13TH
37
TOO LATE
TOUCHED WITH FIRE
TOWER
TROLLS
25 APRIL
TWO WEEKS TO GO
THE UNCONDEMNED
VALLEY OF LOVE
VEERAM-MACBETH
VIGILANTE DIARIES
WAR DOGS
WE ARE X
WEINER
WHAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT
WHEN THE BOUGH BREAKS
WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT
WHITE GIRL
WHY HIM?
WIENER-DOG
THE WITCH
WITHIN
WOLVES AT THE DOOR
THE YOUNG MESSIAH
YOUR NAME
ZERO DAYS
ZOOLANDER 2

Edited January 24, 2017 by Guest

[Guest themetfairy]

Reconsider seeing Florence Foster Jenkins - it was very entertaining.

[seawolf17]

Ooh, I love Vic's list each year. Movies I saw, in vague-ish order of preference:

ZOOTOPIA
ROGUE ONE: A STAR WARS STORY
GHOSTBUSTERS
FANTASTIC BEASTS AND WHERE TO FIND THEM
THE SECRET LIFE OF PETS
MOANA
CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR
SING

[Guest sharpie]

I count 16 movies I've seen this year. Top 10 would be (not necessarily in this order)"

MOONLIGHT
ELLE
FENCES
TONI ERDMANN
MANCHESTER BY THE SEA
LA LA LAND
THE LOBSTER
ARRIVAL
HELL OR HIGH WATER
HAIL, CAESAR!

Other than FANTASTIC BEASTS, I generally liked the rest of them as well:

EVERYBODY WANTS SOME!
BORN TO BE BLUE
MAGGIE'S PLAN
LOVE & FRIENDSHIP
LOVING
FANTASTIC BEASTS AND WHERE TO FIND THEM

[Benjamin Grimm]

I think that these are the only ones I saw. (And I saw 10 Cloverfield Lane on TV, not in a theater, by the way.)

10 CLOVERFIELD LANE
BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE
CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR
DEADPOOL
DOCTOR STRANGE
HAIL, CAESAR!
SUICIDE SQUAD
X-MEN: APOCALYPSE

I enjoyed the Marvel movies more than those from DC, except for Deadpool, which was a chore to sit through.

[Vic Sage]

themetfairy wrote: Reconsider seeing Florence Foster Jenkins - it was very entertaining.

ok, i'm reconsidering it. And now, after reconsidering it, i'm still not going to see it.
I have an image in my mind of wild horses trying, unsuccessfully, to drag me into a theater to see it, but i triumph!

Edited January 24, 2017 by Guest

[Frayed Knot]

Wow, I saw a whopping 20 movies released in 2016 (quite high for me) even though many of them were seen just recently via cable and/or DVD
In rough order of goodness, although that bottom section are essentially just interchangeable versions of 'Meh' that could go in pretty much any order


HELL OR HIGH WATER - loved it the first time (theater) and even more the second (DVD)
LA LA LAND - I'm not quite as over the moon as some, but very good
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CAPTAIN FANTASTIC - odd story well told, and the rare feat of having multiple child actors that I didn't want to strangle
A MAN CALLED OVE - well-done version of the popular book which, by coincidence, I finished on the day this became available on disc. yes, it's in Swedish
SING STREET - Irish music movie where I almost needed the subtitles as much as the Swedish film above
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HAIL, CAESAR! - those goofy Coen boys get some good performances out of Clooney, Brolin, Swinton (x2)
MANCHESTER BY THE SEA - well done but geez is it depressing
SULLY - just watched it last night and found it better than I expected. (spoiler alert: Tom Hanks plays the hero)
THE NICE GUYS - silly fun with R. Crowe and R. Gosling
WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT - silly fun with Tina F. - albeit during a war and shit
I SAW THE LIGHT - as bio-pics go it wasn't bad
MIDNIGHT SPECIAL - Well done but, like this guy's other movie w/Michael Shannon (Take Shelter) I don't get where he's going with them
A BIGGER SPLASH - Ralph Fiennes plays a music industry asshole, then things happen around him
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MONEY MONSTER - George Clooney solves the financial crisis in a matter of hours ... and with a gun pointed at his head no less
DEEPWATER HORIZON - the better of the two Peter/Wahl Berg flicks (see also: Day, Patriots)
THE BOSS - Melissa McCarthy being Melissa McCarthy
PATRIOTS DAY - not sure if it wanted to be a procedural, a documentary, a tearjerker, a fundraiser, a flag-waver - so wound up as a confused slice of each
RACE - a cookie-cutter-like bio like that Jackie Robinson one from a year or two ago, only not even that good
13 HOURS - I guess it gives a reasonable account of when things went sideways in Benghazi, but mostly just a lot of shit blows up
EDDIE THE EAGLE - pretty much a waste

[ashie62]

I had hoped that Jim Jarmusch's "Paterson" might get something. Amazon bought the movie. Released 12/28

[Frayed Knot]

btw, Lin-Manual Miranda is up for the song "How Far I'll Go" from MOANA, which is significant in that, if he wins, it'll make him part of the exclusive 'EGOT' club designating those who have won an EMMY, a GRAMMY (2 in his case), an OSCAR, and a TONY (3). He also has a Pulitzer (PEGOT?).
But don't feel too bad, it will have taken him nearly nine years to accomplish all that so he's practically a slacker.

[Ceetar]

Frayed Knot wrote: btw, Lin-Manual Miranda is up for the song "How Far I'll Go" from MOANA, which is significant in that, if he wins, it'll make him part of the exclusive 'EGOT' club designating those who have won an EMMY, a GRAMMY (2 in his case), an OSCAR, and a TONY (3). He also has a Pulitzer (PEGOT?). But don't feel too bad, it will have taken him nearly nine years to accomplish all that so he's practically a slacker.

I believe he'd be the youngest to achieve it.

[Guest themetfairy]

BTW, if you are wondering what Lin-Manuel's Emmy award is for, check this out. It's legen- wait for it - dary!

[youtube:f5aerikl]R0cK6lkfgHI[/youtube:f5aerikl]

[ashie62]

Sorry Casey, it aint Manchester's night!

Other than that I consider Viola Davis a lock. Denzel if for no other reason Cesey A looks like a serial assgraber.

[MFS62]

themetfairy wrote: BTW, if you are wondering what Lin-Manuel's Emmy award is for, check this out. It's legen- wait for it - dary! [youtube]R0cK6lkfgHI[/youtube]

Just shut the award shows down and just give Neil Patrick Harris any awards he wants. I enjoyed that.
Thank you.

Later

[Frayed Knot]

Yeah, C. Affleck's past transgressions for alleged harassment issues (settled two cases out of court) may just be enough to lose the award that seemed like it's been his for about four months now.
No real clear-cut favorite if it's not him though.

And, yes, Viola is a lock as putting her in the Supporting Actress category seemed to be designed to do just a year after #OscarSoWhite

Supporting Actor goes to Mehershala Ali

Picture/Director - LaLaLand walks away with both

Screenplays:
Adapted is probably the big nod that ARRIVAL gets
Original does the same for HELL OR HIGH WATER

Oh yeah, and Emma Stone wins big.


I rarely see even half of the movies/actors nominated, but I'm never wrong about these things except when I am.

[Frayed Knot]

This just in: the Cleveland Indians were the actual winners of the 2016 World Series.

[Guest sharpie]

Went to bed right after Fay Dunaway read the wrong movie so I missed the final drama. Good result, though.

[MFS62]

Obligatory movie analogy- If there had been a mix-up like that with the envelopes at Don Corleone's daughter's wedding, the person who did it would be wearing cement shoes at the bottom of the river by now.

Later

[Guest sharpie]

Yeah, how does stuff like that even happen. And who discovered it? The accountants?

[Frayed Knot]

sharpie wrote: Went to bed right after Fay Dunaway read the wrong movie so I missed the final drama.

Same here.

how does stuff like that even happen. And who discovered it? The accountants?

Duplicate envelopes is apparently the answer -- Dunaway & Beatty were handed a copy of the Emma Stone - Best Actress card and saw 'LA LA LAND' mentioned.
But if the idea is to keep everyone in the dark about the winner -- I guess so as to maintain 'The Big Reveal' even among the presenters -- it's obvious that someone had to know and it seems odd
that they'd keep a couple of the accountants backstage there just in case something that couldn't possibly happen actually happens. And if someone is going to know anyway then you might as well
clue the presenters in before they go out there just to avoid something like this. They are actors after all and so you figure they can fake surprise as well as anyone.

[ashie62]

Hollywood, those fine arbiters of taste and integrity.

Reveal the winner with an executive order maybe,

[Ceetar]

Frayed Knot wrote: how does stuff like that even happen. And who discovered it? The accountants? Duplicate envelopes is apparently the answer -- Dunaway & Beatty were handed a copy of the Emma Stone - Best Actress card and saw 'LA LA LAND' mentioned. But if the idea is to keep everyone in the dark about the winner -- I guess so as to maintain 'The Big Reveal' even among the presenters -- it's obvious that someone had to know and it seems odd that they'd keep a couple of the accountants backstage there just in case something that couldn't possibly happen actually happens. And if someone is going to know anyway then you might as well clue the presenters in before they go out there just to avoid something like this. They are actors after all and so you figure they can fake surprise as well as anyone.

I'm sure they're ultimately fine with the 'any press is good press' angle of it. Otherwise couldn't they have just said nothing and let the 'wrong' film win and move on?