Airing the Dirty Laundry

[Edgy MD]

In another thread, I noted this strange act by Terry, in which he made a brief, churlish summary of what little he could provide about Syndergaard's injury.

"His elbow flared up on him; that's why I took him out of the game," Terry snaps before getting up and walking off.

What's missed in that clip is the first half of statement. Terry was prompted to report on the elbow by Jay Horwitz, who suspected (correctly, reports suggest) that the beat guys hadn't yet heard about the injury. Unhappy about the prompt, or perhaps dashed of his hopes that he could keep the injury on the down low, fired off a full quote of "The puppy dog wants you to know that Noah Syndergaard is seeing the doctor. His elbow flared up on him; that's why I took him out of the game," before getting up and walking off.

Meow. I mean ... Me. Ow.


I fart in your general direction.

[Lefty Specialist]

The Puppy Dog? That's gonna leave a mark.

[Guest cooby]

Where did you see that? Wow!

[Guest d'Kong76]

Sorry for my duh-ness, but I don't get it.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'm not clear either. Was Jay calling Terry a "puppy dog"?

[Guest cooby]

Google
Jay Horowitz puppy dog

It's all there.

I think Terry's gonna get called on the carpet for that one. We'll see

[Guest d'Kong76]

That's the only thing I could come up with. He does kinda resemble
an old worn out stuffed animal at times.

[Edgy MD]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I'm not clear either. Was Jay calling Terry a "puppy dog"?

Other way around, apparently.

[Guest Mets Guy in Michigan]

Nah, this is nothing. The PR director's job is to take the heat for the boss. (Trust me.) Looked like Terry was blowing off some steam. And Jay has been around for probably 10 Mets managers and will probably outlast Terry and the two guys who follow him.

If the focus is on Terry and Jay and not Thor's elbow, then this is a PR win for the Mets.

[soupcan]

I understand Terry's point, but Jay was right. If the writers found out on their own - which they would - it blows up into headlines.

It's called 'damage control' Mr. Collins.

[Edgy MD]

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: Nah, this is nothing. The PR director's job is to take the heat for the boss. (Trust me.) Looked like Terry was blowing off some steam. And Jay has been around for probably 10 Mets managers and will probably outlast Terry and the two guys who follow him. If the focus is on Terry and Jay and not Thor's elbow, then this is a PR win for the Mets.

Yabbut, funny!

And worth getting to the bottom of. I'm sticking with my guess that Terry was hoping to sit on the news of Syndie's visit to the doctors, to maintain whatever edge an officially 100% Syndergaard gives them over the next three starts. And if it was hopeless, because the story was already out, Jay might well have briefed the skipper before he sat down.

I also have a vague suspicion that "puppy dog" is a name that Jay has been called before, perhaps referencing the small dog bestowed on him by Anna Benson.

[Ceetar]

beat guys/writers would've noticed Thor not on the team flight to Atlanta likely anyway.

[MFS62]

My mom (may she rest in Peace) would call someone a "real pup" meaning son-of-a-bitch. Could that be what Terry means, or just an obedient puppy who just follows his master(s) around and obeys every command?
Probably the second.

Later

[Guest d'Kong76]

Yeah, kinda hard to hide 6'6''/245 even on a charter.

[Frayed Knot]

MFS62 wrote: My mom (may she rest in Peace) would call someone a "real pup" meaning son-of-a-bitch. Could that be what Terry means, or just an obedient puppy who just follows his master(s) around and obeys every command? Probably the second.

Oh it's definitely the latter.
The question is whether it's an enduring type of term that's often used around the office to describe Jay, or if it's something Terry free-lanced on his own as a way to derisively mock how Jay obediently follows every order from the suits above and so now he had to go and tell the reporters what he preferred to keep in-house at least until they had some kind of initial word from the medical folks. That Terry didn't seem too pleased during his terse announcement there leads me to believe he went a bit off the reservation there and, well, aired some dirty laundry.

[Guest d'Kong76]

Joe Giglio | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com wrote: "What was he pulling there?" Francesa asked during the opening of his show after playing the audio of Collins calling Mets PR man Jay Horowtiz a "puppy dog" for simply suggesting that his manager be forthcoming with the biggest news of the day around the team. "First of all, everybody, like us here back at the FAN, we already knew the news. He wasn't hiding anything," Francesa said, alluding to the fact that the station's reporter already had an idea of what was going on with Syndergaard. "Why would you then embarrass a PR guy—and Jay Horwitz, who's one of the nicest guys and best guys in the business and has been there 40 years—why would you treat him like that?" Francesa continued. "All of a sudden because Terry Collins won some games last year and went to the World Series, now he's a tough guy? I mean, that was obnoxious. He owes Jay a public apology."

[Benjamin Grimm]

He doesn't need to apologize to Jay. Terry should just scratch him behind the ears and give him a Milk Bone.

[Edgy MD]

The world is uncomfortable on a day when Mike Francessa is more-or-less right. Even if, as it is, he overstates the thing.

It's a good thing the world returned to its axis today as Francessa broke a brand new story ... by telling everybody about the year-and-a-half-old TV report he just saw, thinking it was live.

http://awfulannouncing.com/2016/mike-francesa-reports-mets-injury-only-to-realize-half-way-through-it-was-an-old-report.html

As per his style, he sticks to his guns embarrassingly long, and then insinuates that his producers and/or the Mets have mis-led him, and clarifies a million times, as if everything wasn't clear to everybody on earth except him in about 10 seconds.

And then the first caller magically yanks his chain, and he's the only one who doesn't realize it. My stars and garters, how is this allowed to continue?

[Ceetar]

d'Kong76 wrote: Joe Giglio | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com wrote: "What was he pulling there?" Francesa asked during the opening of his show after playing the audio of Collins calling Mets PR man Jay Horowtiz a "puppy dog" for simply suggesting that his manager be forthcoming with the biggest news of the day around the team. "First of all, everybody, like us here back at the FAN, we already knew the news. He wasn't hiding anything," Francesa said, alluding to the fact that the station's reporter already had an idea of what was going on with Syndergaard. "Why would you then embarrass a PR guy—and Jay Horwitz, who's one of the nicest guys and best guys in the business and has been there 40 years—why would you treat him like that?" Francesa continued. "All of a sudden because Terry Collins won some games last year and went to the World Series, now he's a tough guy? I mean, that was obnoxious. He owes Jay a public apology."

Sometimes guys are so transparent. Media is upset that Collins basically dropped the news and left, depriving them of getting meaningless sound byte answers to followup questions that Collins doesn't have answers to, so they latch onto an almost definitely inside joke phrase and talk about that instead.

[Lefty Specialist]

Jay is a Wilpon favorite who's cleaned up a lot of messes over the years. I'm guessing Fred and Jeffy aren't too happy with Terry right now. It'll be interesting to see how abject the apology is.

[Guest Mets Guy in Michigan]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: He doesn't need to apologize to Jay. Terry should just scratch him behind the ears and give him a Milk Bone.

Bad ass.

[Guest d'Kong76]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: He doesn't need to apologize to Jay. Terry should just scratch him behind the ears and give him a Milk Bone.

And then when Terry's not looking Jay can go pee on his
SUV's tires and drop a deuce by the door.

[Guest cooby]

d'Kong76 wrote: Joe Giglio | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com wrote: "What was he pulling there?" Francesa asked during the opening of his show after playing the audio of Collins calling Mets PR man Jay Horowtiz a "puppy dog" for simply suggesting that his manager be forthcoming with the biggest news of the day around the team. "First of all, everybody, like us here back at the FAN, we already knew the news. He wasn't hiding anything," Francesa said, alluding to the fact that the station's reporter already had an idea of what was going on with Syndergaard. "Why would you then embarrass a PR guy—and Jay Horwitz, who's one of the nicest guys and best guys in the business and has been there 40 years—why would you treat him like that?" Francesa continued. "All of a sudden because Terry Collins won some games last year and went to the World Series, now he's a tough guy? I mean, that was obnoxious. He owes Jay a public apology."

Agree

[soupcan]

The world is uncomfortable on a day when Mike Francessa is more-or-less right. Even if, as it is, he overstates the thing. It's a good thing the world returned to its axis today as Francessa broke a brand new story ... by telling everybody about the year-and-a-half-old TV report he just saw, thinking it was live. http://awfulannouncing.com/2016/mike-francesa-reports-mets-injury-only-to-realize-half-way-through-it-was-an-old-report.html As per his style, he sticks to his guns embarrassingly long, and then insinuates that his producers and/or the Mets have mis-led him, and clarifies a million times, as if everything wasn't clear to everybody on earth except him in about 10 seconds. And then the first caller magically yanks his chain, and he's the only one who doesn't realize it. My stars and garters, how is this allowed to continue?

That was awesomely uncomfortable.

Francesa: Mike in New Paltz, what’s up Mike? Caller: Hey, how you doin Mike? How are you? Francesa: What’s happening? Caller: Nothing, just wanted to ask you, is that a new report on Wheeler or is that last year’s report?

BAAAA-HA-HA!!!

[Guest d'Kong76]

Edgy MD wrote: And then the first caller magically yanks his chain, and he's the only one who doesn't realize it.

I'm still laughing after listening to the link on fb...

[Guest cooby]

Non players making all the best stories this week, hehe

[TransMonk]

Zzzzzz.

This ranks at about #38 on my worry list right now.

[Frayed Knot]

The sad part is that that was BY FAR not the worst bad-info Francesa has given out over the air

[Edgy MD]

I think his endorsement of Trump is by far the worst bad-info Francesa has given out over the air.

[ashie62]

Edgy MD wrote: I think his endorsement of Trump is by far the worst bad-info Francesa has given out over the air.

He really did??