Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 I just realized he was not called up. So he's not eligible for the post-season right? Why wouldn't the Mets call him up as an option? He could be a spot starter, a long reliever, a seventh inning guy.So basically his contract runs out then he is a free agent right?
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 Centerfield wrote:I just realized he was not called up. So he's not eligible for the post-season right? Why wouldn't the Mets call him up as an option? He could be a spot starter, a long reliever, a seventh inning guy.So basically his contract runs out then he is a free agent right?not on the 40 man. He's eligible though, for being in the organization.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 He's not on the 40-man at the moment (was removed in order to send him down, etc.) that bringing him up requires more paperwork than merely bringing him up (although after Parnell last night maybe it's worth it).As for after the season, he doesn't yet have enough service time to simply declare himself a FA meaning that the Mets could hold onto him if they wish. IOW, he'll be a FA after the Mets non-tender him when the season ends.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted September 2, 2015 Author Posted September 2, 2015 Ceetar wrote:Centerfield wrote:I just realized he was not called up. So he's not eligible for the post-season right? Why wouldn't the Mets call him up as an option? He could be a spot starter, a long reliever, a seventh inning guy.So basically his contract runs out then he is a free agent right?not on the 40 man. He's eligible though, for being in the organization.Wait, so they could add him and he would be eligible for the post-season?
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 Somebody's got to pitch for Vegas. Tim Stauffer can't win that pennant by himself.
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 Centerfield wrote:Wait, so they could add him and he would be eligible for the post-season?pretty sure that's the rule. so like, when they cut O'flahtery..
TransMonk Old-Timey Member Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 As long as the player is within the organization as of 9/1, he is eligible for postseason. Being on the 40-man roster is not a requirement.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 My traditional understanding is that he should have appeared in a game (or at least on the roster) for them before September 1.The loophole to this has long been a rule that allowed any player � including a post-September 1 player � to be included on the roster if somebody is on the 60-man disabled list. Like "Oh, man, we really wanted to take Buddy Carlyle! Crap! Now you have to let us use Matt Reynolds." That's how the Mets have gotten their Melvin Moras and Timo Perezes of the past on the roster.One guy � former-Met-farmhand-with-a-crazy-wife Marc Kiger � got on a post-season roster that way despite having never appeared for his club, and became the first guy in like 100 years to debut in the post-season.In fact, he never again appeared in the majors after his two ALCS appearances (both pinch-running, I think) and is perhaps unique in baseball history (I don't know) in that his only big league appearances came in the post-season.
Guest themetfairy Guests Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 Edgy MD wrote:One guy � former-Met-farmhand-with-a-crazy-wife Marc Kiger Details?
TransMonk Old-Timey Member Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 Yeah, disregard my lame interpretation of post-season eligibility above. It was probably gleaned from a loose Keith Hernandez statement on the rule.Rules from MLB
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 themetfairy wrote:Edgy MD wrote:One guy � former-Met-farmhand-with-a-crazy-wife Marc Kiger Details?We've visited it before but a high-profile Oakland Athletics/Vancouver Canadians blogger pointed out the unfortunate choice of Kiger to declare himself a free agent, rather than be farmed out by the A's, as Kiger ended up grinding it out in Binghamton. While the Athletics soon had a rash of injuries in their infield, that would likely have led to his promotion.Unfortunately, all the ol' links are dead. Kiger's wife, a hard-partying, hard-talking small town girl � fond of online glamour shots and singing "They tried to make me go to rehab but I said, 'No, no, no!" � who seemingly had been chasing ballplayers for years before landing Marc, who was five years her junior, went into beast mode, and ripped this guy highly uncharitably. The rule being not to get in a war of words with guys who buy ink by the barrel, he went back just as hard, with far more embarrassing online material of hers to cull. Poor Kiger had to get involved and negotiate a ceasefire.Her online name was "Bedhead Barbie."
Guest themetfairy Guests Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 I have absolutely no memory of this. It must have occurred when I was at Freakin' Rutgers.
Fman99 Old-Timey Member Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 Edgy MD wrote:Edgy MD wrote:One guy � former-Met-farmhand-with-a-crazy-wife Marc Kiger Details?We've visited it before but a high-profile Oakland Athletics/Vancouver Canadians blogger pointed out the unfortunate choice of Kiger to declare himself a free agent, rather than be farmed out by the A's, as Kiger ended up grinding it out in Binghamton. While the Athletics soon had a rash of injuries in their infield, that would likely have led to his promotion.Unfortunately, all the ol' links are dead. Kiger's wife, a hard-partying, hard-talking small town girl � fond of online glamour shots and singing "They tried to make me go to rehab but I said, 'No, no, no!" � who seemingly had been chasing ballplayers for years before landing Marc, who was five years her junior, went into beast mode, and ripped this guy highly uncharitably. The rule being not to get in a war of words with guys who buy ink by the barrel, he went back just as hard, with far more embarrassing online material of hers to cull. Poor Kiger had to get involved and negotiate a ceasefire.Her online name was "Bedhead Barbie."This whole thing reads like something you made up while drinking a latte. Kudos to you.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 Here's a flashback to one of (I think) two threads on the matter.It also triggered the famed Battle of the Bridesmaids.
Guest themetfairy Guests Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 That was definitely during the time I was busy finishing up at Freakin' Rutgers.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 Vote for Squinty
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 The "postseason rosters are set in stone on August 31" precept must be a widely shared subconscious remnant from another era (it was considered crucial to get Kevin Elster up to the bigs prior to Sept. 1 nearly three decades ago), because it hasn't appeared to matter for ages.Consider the entire 2002 regular-season oeuvre of young and phenomenal Francisco Rodriguez. It was comprised of five games, the first of them appeared in on September 18. He spent the bulk of October shutting down waves of MFYs, Twins and Giants. Nobody checked his August 31 ID.Mets can't bring Dean Chance or John Candelaria into the organization at this late date and expect to him wheedle one or both onto the postseason roster, but a sudden case of the Dillon Gees (not considered contagious at this point in time) could probably be managed.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 G-Fafif wrote:Consider the entire 2002 regular-season oeuvre of young and phenomenal Francisco Rodriguez. It was comprised of five games, the first of them appeared in on September 18. He spent the bulk of October shutting down waves of MFYs, Twins and Giants. Nobody checked his August 31 ID.MLB later admitted that they should NOT have approved K-Rod's admittance onto the post-season roster (they apparently misinterpreted their own guidelines) but by the time they did so it was after the Angels (one and only) WS was in the bag.They've since tightened the rules somewhat from those days anyway. Steve Phillips ('amongst others) exploited a loophole which allowed them to stick some single-A player on the 40-man, then DL him, then replace that "injury" with a newly added in September player. He pulled it off at least once in either the '99 or '00 teams (maybe both?) and others were doing to same.But, in general, yeah, being on the actual active roster on Aug 31st is certainly not the sole requirement.
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