Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

[Guest sharpie]

Zobrist to Royals. No word yet on who goes the other way. Don Zimmer clings onto his alphabetically last Met designation.

[Frayed Knot]

sharpie wrote: Zobrist to Royals. No word yet on who goes the other way. Don Zimmer clings onto his alphabetically last Met designation.

2 minor league pitchers apparently including former 1st round pick (34th overall 2013) Sean Manaea (LHP). Manaea was in the back half in several of the top 100 prospects lists done over this past winter, not unlike say Brandon Nimmo. He hasn't pitched much this season (just 7 starts) or all that well for that matter so there may be some problem going on.

oe: also Aaron Brooks, a 23 y/o reliever currently in high-A ball

[Guest Mets � Willets Point]

When is the actual deadline?

[TransMonk]

Friday. 4PM ET, IIRC.

[HahnSolo]

Royals not messing around.

[Guest sharpie]

Papelbon to Nats for a Double-A pitcher.

David (not Daniel) Murphy to Angels.

[Frayed Knot]

Papelbon has a no-trade clause and he is supposedly invoking it in order to guarantee that he's to be used as the closer.
Wonder how manager Matt Williams views a player dictating how and when he's used? ... not to mention what incumbent Drew Storen thinks about it as he's certainly not done anything to lose that job.

[Edgy MD]

Mets have re-signed Omir Santos and hope to have him activated in time for Thursday's Nats opener.

[Frayed Knot]

In the transaction, the Nats agreed to pick up Papelbon's 2016 option (though at a reduced rate and with deferred money) so we best get used to seeing him there for a while.
The Phils also pay part of this year's freight and it doesn't sound like the minor leaguer they got back for him is much to crow about. So the main attraction for the Phils seems to be that they got a malcontent out of their clubhouse and got out from under the option which would have kicked in automatically with a certain number of games closed -- but that's what tends to happen when closers get signed to long-term deals.

[Ceetar]

Frayed Knot wrote: In the transaction, the Nats agreed to pick up Papelbon's 2016 option (though at a reduced rate and with deferred money) so we best get used to seeing him there for a while. The Phils also pay part of this year's freight and it doesn't sound like the minor leaguer they got back for him is much to crow about. So the main attraction for the Phils seems to be that they got a malcontent out of their clubhouse and got out from under the option which would have kicked in automatically with a certain number of games closed -- but that's what tends to happen when closers get signed to long-term deals.

Stupid broke Wilpons always needing the other team to throw in money.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Deep-Southern roots, clubhouse enforcing, role fixation, undying love from Philadelphians... Pappy is really just a few dozen alpacas away from being Country Time Junior, ain't he?

[ashie62]

Mat Latos and Mike Morse from Florida to the Dodgers for three unknown picks from the recent competitive balance draft.

[Frayed Knot]

Just to clarify, the reports on this deal say it would be: Morse + Latos + One 'competitive balance'* pick going from Miami to Los Angeles in exchange for three (yet to be named) minor league pitchers heading to south Florida

Given that neither Morse or Latos are having a particularly good year, it seems like a bit of a tame trade for the Dodgers now that the Giants are hot on their heels.


* 'CB' picks, though I don't claim to understand exactly what the criteria are for handing them out, are given to smaller market teams so there's no way the Dodgers would ever have one of their own

[Ceetar]

Frayed Knot wrote: Just to clarify, the reports on this deal say it would be: Morse + Latos + One 'competitive balance'* pick going from Miami to Los Angeles in exchange for three (yet to be named) minor league pitchers heading to south Florida Given that neither Morse or Latos are having a particularly good year, it seems like a bit of a tame trade for the Dodgers now that the Giants are hot on their heels. * 'CB' picks, though I don't claim to understand exactly what the criteria are for handing them out, are given to smaller market teams so there's no way the Dodgers would ever have one of their own

Something to do with market share and blah blah blah. varies slightly each year. Could probably look it up, but it's not super important. Think it's pick like ..35? practically a first rounder. Somewhere around where Wright got picked originally. (They called them sandwich picks back then, but now that 'is a hot dog a sandwich' debate has gotten heated, they did away with that terminology)

most people framing this is pretty bad from the Marlins standpoint. think I agree.

[Centerfield]

Frayed Knot wrote: Papelbon has a no-trade clause and he is supposedly invoking it in order to guarantee that he's to be used as the closer. Wonder how manager Matt Williams views a player dictating how and when he's used? ... not to mention what incumbent Drew Storen thinks about it as he's certainly not done anything to lose that job.

How could that possibly be enforced? Does he get to go back to Philly if the phone rings in the 8th?

[Ceetar]

Centerfield wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Papelbon has a no-trade clause and he is supposedly invoking it in order to guarantee that he's to be used as the closer. Wonder how manager Matt Williams views a player dictating how and when he's used? ... not to mention what incumbent Drew Storen thinks about it as he's certainly not done anything to lose that job. How could that possibly be enforced? Does he get to go back to Philly if the phone rings in the 8th?

he could throw a hissy fit.

[Frayed Knot]

Ceetar wrote: Something to do with market share and blah blah blah. varies slightly each year. Could probably look it up, but it's not super important. Think it's pick like ..35? practically a first rounder. Somewhere around where Wright got picked originally. (They called them sandwich picks back then, but now that 'is a hot dog a sandwich' debate has gotten heated, they did away with that terminology)

Yeah I know in general what CB picks are but I've just never delved into exactly how they're awarded -- it's like half on merit (if one determines that a small market size is "merit" - StL gets one almost every year) and half via lottery (which is an even stranger concept if you ask me) and they're the only picks which are allowed to be traded.

most people framing this is pretty bad from the Marlins standpoint. think I agree.

Without knowing who the minor leaguers are it's impossible to say (and it may take several years after that to know for sure) but it seems like a strange deal for the Dodgers too. They already have too many OFs and A Gonzalez is a top-notch everyday 1B so that reduces Morse to a RH pinch-hitter who's not really hitting these days (like an older & worse-fielding version of Scott Van Slyke). And I shouldn't think the Giants are quaking in their boots saying; 'Oh shit, the Dodgers just added Mat Freakin Latos to their roster!!'

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I think it was Olney who speculated that Morse came as a favor to the Marlins who wanted salary relief and in exchange are getting lesser prospects from the Dodgers. LA likely to turn right around and release Morse.

[MFS62]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I think it was Olney who speculated that Morse came as a favor to the Marlins who wanted salary relief and in exchange are getting lesser prospects from the Dodgers. LA likely to turn right around and release Morse.

I hope not. When I heard of this deal, II thought that if they couldn't trade Morse to the AL (or the Tibetan League for that matter. He looks like a Yeti.) I was glad he at least got traded to a team that won't play the Mets too many times each year. If he gets released, he still could come back to the NL East.

Later

[Edgy MD]

Indeed, he could end up a Met.

[Guest Mets Guy in Michigan]

Lots of talk here in Michigan that the MYS will get David Price. Not sure what they have to trade, though.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Rubie just sent out a trolly tweet to the effect of Mets in pursuit of a trade that will make fans happy.

Oh, Tracky just sent one too.

There is momentum, hearing a so-called big bat....

[MFS62]

Miami/ LA deal still not completed.
Buyer re-Morse?

Later

[ashie62]

Trade Colon.

[Edgy MD]

Please. Enough with the calls for blood.

[Edgy MD]

Help me out. When did it become OK to trade a guy on the DL?

It seems that as recently as the last year or two that if such a guy was included in a deal, he would be officially designated as a PtBNL.

[dgwphotography]

and why hasn't Flores been pulled yet?

[Centerfield]

Ok. Let's go get Upton now and make our run.

[Frayed Knot]

Seems like that Marlins/Dodgers dealio is in the process of morphing into a 3 team extravaganza with the Braves now involved.

From MLB.com: If the trade is completed, the Dodgers will reportedly receive Latos and Morse as well as Atlanta starting pitcher Alex Wood, closer Jim Johnson, reliever Luis Avilan and infielder Jose Peraza, while sending to Atlanta recent Cuban signing Hector Olivera, injured reliever Paco Rodriguez and Minor League pitcher Zach Bird, according to Major League sources. Atlanta also will receive a competitive-balance Draft pick from Miami, which would get three Minor League pitchers from Los Angeles. The clubs have not confirmed the deal.

[Zvon]

Hamels to Texas.