IGT 07/22 - NYM at WAS -Gm 3� Take the Series & Run!

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Muffy losing a foul ball in the sun cost Syndergaard one of those walks, and a couple of pitches, but they turned out to be big ones by the end.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Edgy MD wrote: No, I'm more than happy with Familia going for a multi-inning save. Same thing. It's all about getting shorter. Needing four good pitchers instead of five. Three good pitchers instead of four. Two good pitchers instead of three.

But at some point, whether its your first RP or your 5th, you need to retire 1 batter before 3 runs score and you win the damn thing. Parnell didnt get it done. Howie and Josh remarked on how hard Moore hit the ball when he made an out, that should have stirred TC.

[Edgy MD]

There is no doubt that Parnell blew it. Let it be known in the valleys. And let it spread to the mountain tops.

The idea is that there is always X amount of pitchers who aren't going to have it on any given day, and so the fewer the number of pitchers you need to turn a game situation over to, the better the odds are for you.

And Terry, agreed, blew it by not hooking Parnell earlier. But he makes it ever-harder on himself to go to Plan B when Plan A involves four guys to get four innings. That's an insult to Andy Hassler.

[TransMonk]

I see a lot of blame to go around on this one. Parnell is the most obvious, but there were lots of opportunities missed in this one.

This struck me as a pretty sloppily played series by the Mets in some aspects. For all of the fanfare over how important this series was and for having the starters set up the way they wanted, it didn't seem as if the Mets played like a team trying (needing) to make a statement.

[ashie62]

We did not score enough.

[nymr83]

Ashie62 wrote: We did not score enough.

A 2 run lead in the 8th inning says otherwise, you can't claim we didnt score enough every time we lose. Sometimes it's on the pitchers too, like when they have a 2 run lead and 4 outs to get.

I would have signed up for 3 runs off Zimmerman in advance, wouldn't you?

Oh and let's not forget the cardinal sin of giving the opposing pitcher the first out of the game on a bunt. That's bad basebalI no matter who you are.

[ashie62]

Nymr83 wrote: Ashie62 wrote: We did not score enough. A 2 run lead in the 8th inning says otherwise, you can't claim we didnt score enough every time we lose. Sometimes it's on the pitchers too, like when they have a 2 run lead and 4 outs to get. I would have signed up for 3 runs off Zimmerman in advance, wouldn't you? Oh and let's not forget the cardinal sin of giving the opposing pitcher the first out of the game on a bunt. That's bad basebalI no matter who you are.

I don't claim that everytime they lose.

[Zvon]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: No, I'm more than happy with Familia going for a multi-inning save. Same thing. It's all about getting shorter. Needing four good pitchers instead of five. Three good pitchers instead of four. Two good pitchers instead of three. But at some point, whether its your first RP or your 5th, you need to retire 1 batter before 3 runs score and you win the damn thing. Parnell didnt get it done. Howie and Josh remarked on how hard Moore hit the ball when he made an out, that should have stirred TC.

It stirred me. Sandy is not on my hot seat but he's warming up his ass.

I see a lot of blame to go around on this one. Parnell is the most obvious, but there were lots of opportunities missed in this one. This struck me as a pretty sloppily played series by the Mets in some aspects. For all of the fanfare over how important this series was and for having the starters set up the way they wanted, it didn't seem as if the Mets played like a team trying (needing) to make a statement.

I agree with this estimate. It's almost as if they were more concerned about not looking too concerned (aside from Flores throwing his bat- which is lame).

I also must take more of the blame than I thought, which was zero. I was responsible for these games as thread barer. When it's my game I always wear a Mets jersey. I wore it last night. I hung it on the top of the door to remind me to put it on again today. I just tried to close the door and it wouldn't close because my jerseys up there. GAH!
I didn't wear the Mets jersey!

[Fman99]

The rocket scientists at SNY couldn't figure out that the replay of this game would be less enjoyable on nights where they decide to simultaneously scroll the final score of today's game along the bottom of the screen.

[Frayed Knot]

btw, I propose a rule where if a manager loses a challenged call based on his belief that the runner who was safe by 19 feet was really out because his left toenail came off the bag for a milli-second during his slide, that said manager should:
a) be ejected
lose all his challenges for the rest of the year
c) be forced to manage the remaining games of the season in a pink skirt

[Edgy MD]

Terry Collins says he is to blame for Wednesday�s loss Terry Collins took full responsibility for Wednesday�s loss to the Nationals, while talking to reporters after the game. �That�s all on me, that�s not on Bobby Parnell,� he said. Collins said he should have had closer Jeurys Familia warming up in the bullpen sooner than he did, so he could have turned to him for more than a three-out save. Instead, Collins stuck with his primary setup man, Parnell, who failed to hold a two-run lead in the eighth inning. Familia pitched one inning the night before with the Mets up five runs in the ninth inning. �It�s a big loss for us,� Collins concluded.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Mets have to be better prepared. They talk a great game about how they gotta beat these guys, get the best 3 lined up to go against them, but look like shit in the first game then Terry got caught sitting on his hands in the last one.