Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

[stevejrogers]

Per a uni listing of SD Pads on B-R, Sam Perlozzo, 1979.

[batmagadanleadoff]

SteveJRogers wrote: Per a uni listing of SD Pads on B-R, Sam Perlozzo, 1979.

So much for the honor system.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Per a uni listing of SD Pads on B-R, Sam Perlozzo, 1979. So much for the honor system.

Hey Rogers: You still won the quiz. You did good, kid. You're all aces even if you essentially looked up the answer instead of relying on your facial recognition powers, which is sort of or exactly like cheating. Plus, now zvon gets to make us a card. How about instead of the Ron Taylor, we make your prize a '73 Bob Miller Padres Topps from the The Man From Topps image below? It's easier work than the Taylor because there's no watermark to remove. (For the first few months to maybe a year or so, Topps would release these archival images without any watermarks. The Miller is obviously an early toppsvault release). And this thread would look a whole lot better with a '73 Bob Miller. So everybody wins.

[Edgy MD]

While rabbit-holing a few weeks back, I discovered a minor league outfielder named "Donald Mazzilli," and I was going to guess him. Is he a sibling or cousin of Lido?

[Zvon]

I don't make cards for cheaters.

HA! I kid. Personally, if a quiz is unanswered long enough I see np with looking stuff up. As long as you learn something. Ask Rogers the question next month and if he can't answer it w/o looking it up again, he must return the digital non 3 dimensional card & I will delete it from reality.

I'll have a '73 Miller up by game time.

[Guest Mets Guy in Michigan]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: seawolf17 wrote: In 1988, Topps thought Marvell Wynne, coming off a season where he was a pinch-hitter (only started 40 games) and hit .250, was worthy of a box bottom card? I have zero recollection of this. Also, Marvell Wynne was definitely never a Met. How could you tell Wynne's card is a box-bottom (it is!) just by looking at it?

The blue border is the key.

I had no idea Bruce Bochey was every a Met.

[batmagadanleadoff]

This is great. You have a couple of options with the Padre Miller. You could put him on a regular '73 Topps. Or you could do a '73 Topps O-Pee-Chee style card ("Now with Mets")-- Miller started that season as a Padre but ended it on the Mets. So there's another Met connection for you. Original Met a Met once more. Once a Met, always a Met. When you're a Met, you're a Met all the way.



Or you could put Miller on a '74 Padres card with the "Nat'l Lea." designation instead of the team name, as Topps hedged their bet on the Pods potential move to DC. That fantasy card wouldn't be historically accurate or likely, though -- not that we wouldn't wanna see it anyways. Miller was two teams removed from the Padres when the '74 cards went to press, so there's no way Miller would've ended up on a Padres card in '74.

[fimg=263]https://shlabotnikreport.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/1974-jones-wnl.jpg[/fimg]

Good luck with this.

[batmagadanleadoff]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: This is great. You have a couple of options with the Padre Miller. You could put him on a regular '73 Topps. Or you could do a '73 Topps O-Pee-Chee style card ("Now with Mets")-- Miller started that season as a Padre but ended it on the Mets. So there's another Met connection for you. Original Met a Met once more. Once a Met, always a Met. When you're a Met, you're a Met all the way. Or you could put Miller on a '74 Padres card with the "Nat'l Lea." designation instead of the team name, as Topps hedged their bet on the Pods potential move to DC. That fantasy card wouldn't be historically accurate or likely, though -- not that we wouldn't wanna see it anyways. Miller was two teams removed from the Padres when the '74 cards went to press, so there's no way Miller would've ended up on a Padres card in '74. [fimg=263]https://shlabotnikreport.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/1974-jones-wnl.jpg[/fimg] Good luck with this.

Heads up. Change of plans. That Miller pic belongs on a '71 card. Miller was a two-time Padre ('71 & '73). He's pictured in a '71 uniform.

[Zvon]

I already had started it and went w/the Padres. I could just change the team and and have the notation say "Now With Mets". I didn't get to see those types of OPC cards til the later 80's and always have been a big fan of those. I thought I'd use the notation to make the card unique onto Mr. Rogers. But I wish I went the "Now With Mets" route. That would have been much cooler.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Zvon wrote: I already had started it and went w/the Padres. I could just change the team and and have the notation say "Now With Mets". I didn't get to see those types of OPC cards til the later 80's and always have been a big fan of those. I thought I'd use the notation to make the card unique onto Mr. Rogers. But I wish I went the "Now With Mets" route. That would have been much cooler.

That's great work. The '73 style's perfect. Topps occasionally used photos that were years old so there'd be nothing unusual about a '71 pic on a '73 card. I agree with you that "Now With Mets" is preferable. Maybe one card for Rogers (the one you made) and one for the thread just like the Rogers card, only swapping "Now with Mets" with the Rogers text --- but leave the Padres name on the card.

[Zvon]

That shouldn't take long at all. But I'm eatin dinner.

for the game.

One of these days I want to try and simulate a very bad airbrush job card, but that would take some time to get just right. It has to be good enough, but also be bad enough.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Whatcha eating?

I'm gonna make up a quiz in this thread and give out a jazzed up Klaus '69 Padres Topps card as the prize. The quiz is gonna be real easy.

[fimg=333]https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7750/18247956120_e6a7ff7b64_o.jpg[/fimg]

[Zvon]

Chicken cordon bleu. If I win you have to give me copies of all your "Man From Topps" photos. Or a link to em.

[Zvon]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: That's great work. The '73 style's perfect. Topps occasionally used photos that were years old so there'd be nothing unusual about a '71 pic on a '73 card. I agree with you that "Now With Mets" is preferable. Maybe one card for Rogers (the one you made) and one for the thread just like the Rogers card, only swapping "Now with Mets" with the Rogers text --- but leave the Padres name on the card.

Thank you. Don't we need a pic of Miller on the Mets (circa 1974) to make this work? I'm looking for one. I have found a couple, a bad color one and a small B&W.

The oldest Mets yearbook I currently own is a 1975 one. Does anyone have a '74 yearbook and want to be bothered with giving Miller a scan? I have the one from Centerfield Maz. Can't be used unless the name plate is removed and the missing uniform parts photoshopped in. I don't know if that's worth the time it'll take with such an inferior image. If I can get a bigger and better copy of that photograph, I'll give it a shot.

[batmagadanleadoff]

z ... This is getting complicated. Just take out the rogers text for the 2d version of the Miller card. It'll be a regular '73 Topps style Padres card of Bob L. That'd be great and much appreciated and all that other jazz.

[Edgy MD]

My scanner is offline, so here is a super cellphone shot of that Miller portrait.

[fimg=800:2a8ksqws]https://metsinpeace.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/bobmiller.jpg[/fimg:2a8ksqws]

I aim to please, and I figured you would also want some hot, sexy, low-res topless-Rube Walker-teasing-Yogi's-hair action.

[fimg=800:2a8ksqws]https://metsinpeace.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/img_0136.jpg[/fimg:2a8ksqws]

[Zvon]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: z ... This is getting complicated. Just take out the rogers text for the 2d version of the Miller card. It'll be a regular '73 Topps style Padres card of Bob L. That'd be great and much appreciated and all that other jazz.

Can do.

[Zvon]

Edgy MD wrote: My scanner is offline, so here is a super cellphone shot of that Miller portrait. I aim to please, and I figured you would also want some hot, sexy, low-res topless-Rube Walker-teasing-Yogi's-hair action.

Thank you Edge. I'll see what I can do with that.

[Edgy MD]

Really? Go crazy.

It's actually saved at something like four times the size displayed above.

[batmagadanleadoff]

That's super. That card's going into the big card post atop this thread. I can't wait! For the record, if you wanted to do an O-Pee-Chee version that's stylistically accurate, (and that's entirely up to you, I'm not asking - I'm totally fine with that 2d Miller card) you wouldn't want Miller in a Mets uniform. The photo's supposed to be dated. You could use that Miller/Padre photo, or any other photo of Miller before he joined the Mets. Since we're talking about replicating '73, that'd mean Miller in either a Padres or Pirates uniform, the two teams he played for in '73 before coming to the Mets. Then, you'd change the team name on the card you made from Padres to Mets. And finally, you'd add that OPC text over the photo, indicating that Miller is now a Met. That's the formula.



1. Current team name
2. Dated photo with prior team
3. Updating text

[Zvon]

Edgy MD wrote: Really? Go crazy. It's actually saved at something like four times the size displayed above.

I might have to pull to make it square, but I've done that before. It's the best copy of that photo I've seen. That's shrunk thru the board tho, right? Then if I save it, it should be the orig size unless you manually shrunk the pic yourself.

I'm tempted to photoshop a man-bra on Rube but he doesn't really need one.

re above: B.B.Ref is telling me Bob L made a stop in Detroit on his way to NY for his second stint.

This is my fav home made OPChee card (so far)
[fimg=200]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IYND42cEkOM/UxrXnO9-dCI/AAAAAAAANZ4/5bj7AS9A-Cs/s800/72opcWILLIAMS-z14.png[/fimg]

[batmagadanleadoff]

Bob Miller's last card as an active player and the original image Topps used to make that card.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Really? Go crazy. It's actually saved at something like four times the size displayed above. I might have to pull to make it square, but I've done that before. It's the best copy of that photo I've seen. That's shrunk thru the board tho, right? Then if I save it, it should be the orig size unless you manually shrunk the pic yourself. I'm tempted to photoshop a man-bra on Rube but he doesn't really need one. re above: B.B.Ref is telling me Bob L made a stop in Detroit on his way to NY for his second stint. This is my fav home made OPChee card (so far) [fimg=200]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IYND42cEkOM/UxrXnO9-dCI/AAAAAAAANZ4/5bj7AS9A-Cs/s800/72opcWILLIAMS-z14.png[/fimg]

That's right. He came to the Padres from the Pirates. I probably got mixed up, being aware of that Pirate to Met transformation shown above. There ain't no Tiger card of Bob L. either,and if you check out Miller's record, you could see why.

Watermarked


Not Watermarked
[fimg=333]https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8764/18252767710_ebb0e3e9fa_o.jpg[/fimg]

That Williams card is going into the next Giants card thread, two opponents away.

[Zvon]

This is the best I could do. Pulled it square, tried getting more blue to come out. If I ever use this I think I'll look for a similar pose by some other Met and replace that entire shoulder, cut him out, and stick him in Shea. Let this Miller be entered into the internet Metropolitan Portrait Collection.

[fimg=600]https://metsinpeace.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/bobmiller.jpg[/fimg][fimg=600]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zlGvqEwkPYs/VXDZkOIhMZI/AAAAAAAAZuM/jDAkrHIy4A4/s1024/bobmiller15.png[/fimg]

[Edgy MD]

If you want to delete that text box and touch up the empty area by hand (the way 1970s Topps would), you could get the toughest part done by stealing the Mets logo off of the shoulder of the player to his left and manipulating it into the folded position.

[batmagadanleadoff]

You can learn a lot from The Man from Topps. Bob Miller's last major league gig may have been with the 1974 Mets, but apparently, Miller didn't think he was through at the end of that season. Below is a The Man from Topps photo of Miller in a Padres road uniform, taken in 1975. The road uni Miller's wearing was a one year only style, so it had to have been 1975. Also, Miller never wore #50 in either of previous two stints with the Pads. So it appears that Miller gave it at least one more chance with San Diego in the Spring of '75.





OE: Miller pitched 25 innings for the Padres AAA team in 1975, the last professional innings Miller would pitch.

[batmagadanleadoff]

I'm logged in, yet I'm not permitted to edit the top post. I wanted to add Dick Selma, whom I'd omitted. What gives?

[batmagadanleadoff]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: I'm logged in, yet I'm not permitted to edit the top post.

So I'll assume that editing posts more than a week old is now forbidden?

[Edgy MD]

No idea why that should be so.

OE: See if you can edit it now.