IGT #10 4/16 vs Marlins: Dillon Gee Home Opener

[Ceetar]

Edgy MD wrote: How much patience did they show to get him where he is now? He goes back to Jerry Manuel.

Considering he was average in 2012 and a solid hitter every other year I'd say the patience was in finding him a place to play that he wouldn't wreck them defensively.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Maybe I'm alone in this, but I don't mind the four-minute delay for the challenge. It made for compelling television, with a nice sense of suspense. My wife, who really doesn't care about baseball at all, put down what she was doing and was drawn in, watching the different replay angles and trying to determine what the right call was. (For the record, I thought Ichiro was safe, so I couldn't be too upset when the call was reversed.)

[Edgy MD]

Ceetar wrote: Edgy MD wrote: How much patience did they show to get him where he is now? He goes back to Jerry Manuel. Considering he was average in 2012 and a solid hitter every other year I'd say the patience was in finding him a place to play that he wouldn't wreck them defensively.

I didn't say otherwise.

[Ceetar]

Edgy MD wrote: Edgy MD wrote: How much patience did they show to get him where he is now? He goes back to Jerry Manuel. Considering he was average in 2012 and a solid hitter every other year I'd say the patience was in finding him a place to play that he wouldn't wreck them defensively. I didn't say otherwise.

Well Zvon did. And he's hardly the only one.

[Edgy MD]

Well, I am the only one you quoted.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Crazy thing is, everyone bought into the idea Doodoo was a kind of freak who might have mental or emotional issues. This forum overwhelmingly voted in consecutive years to keep Ike and not him. (except for me, though my argument was based more on my doubt in Ike than belief in the big guy).

Somebody go find those polls.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Here's the first one: http://archives.cranepoolforum.net/18200/f1_t18248.shtml

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Here's the other one:

http://archives.cranepoolforum.net/19900/f1_t19911.shtml

[Edgy MD]

I also pegged him for 30 homers in the expectations threads a year or two before it happened.

I had faith in the guy. I just had more faith in Davis in the context you created, which seemed artificial to me at the time, but turned out to be bone-chillingly real.

[Ceetar]

Looks like Ralph, Keith (and my father) were right. Thanks to Seawolf for sending along some extra Duda rookie? cards for him, even if it confused my wife as to why I was getting mail from Stonybrook.

[ashie62]

It was posted by someone in the offseason that Duda could be more "looming". I would say that Duda has become a loomoing presence to opposing pitchers.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Zvon wrote: *sob*I remember Lucas when he was just another idiot who couldn't hit.*tears of joy*#allgrowdup

Lucas Duda absolutely raked it at every level of pro baseball he ever played at. Sometimes though, he'd need some time to adjust. The man can hit.*

Just don't put him in the outfield, thank you.


"What does a feller need to do to get his own thread around here? And who's David Wright?"
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*Righties, anyway.

[Vic Sage]

Look, I'm very happy Duda has had 10 good games and so has gotten off to a strong start, but he's a lifetime .250 hitter, so lets not designate him the face of the franchise for the next decade just yet.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Vic Sage wrote: Look, I'm very happy Duda has had 10 good games and so has gotten off to a strong start, but he's a lifetime .250 hitter, so lets not designate him the face of the franchise for the next decade just yet.

Point well taken. But I'd take Duda over Wright in a bet over who's the best hitter going forward over the rest of their careers.

Edited April 17, 2015 by Guest

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Vic Sage wrote: Look, I'm very happy Duda has had 10 good games and so has gotten off to a strong start, but he's a lifetime .250 hitter, so lets not designate him the face of the franchise for the next decade just yet.

Fuck that, he's the fucking MVP and the Mets are on pace for 113 wins.

[batmagadanleadoff]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Vic Sage wrote: Look, I'm very happy Duda has had 10 good games and so has gotten off to a strong start, but he's a lifetime .250 hitter, so lets not designate him the face of the franchise for the next decade just yet. Fuck that, he's the fucking MVP and the Mets are on pace for 113 wins.

Who's the fucking MVP?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Doodoo

on edit: Seriously, yes he's a .250 career hitter but those "hard-hit ball" metrics have always liked Doodoo a lot and suggest he's a very capable slugger.

[Ceetar]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Vic Sage wrote: Look, I'm very happy Duda has had 10 good games and so has gotten off to a strong start, but he's a lifetime .250 hitter, so lets not designate him the face of the franchise for the next decade just yet. Fuck that, he's the fucking MVP and the Mets are on pace for 113 wins. Who's the fucking MVP?

Harvey, obviously.

[batmagadanleadoff]

"Fuck that shit. I don't say 'Who's David Wright?' I say 'Who the fuck is David Wright'?"
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[Ceetar]

nobody cares about batting average.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Nobody? Read that Chalmers book Lunchie's reading.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

My favorite part of the postgame may have been that on-field interview with NotKevin, if only because Lucas was all false-modesty-shucks, when you know he knows what's different about his approach, it's just that you're not going to be privy to that, NotKevin.

[Ceetar]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: My favorite part of the postgame may have been that on-field interview with NotKevin, if only because Lucas was all false-modesty-shucks, when you know he knows what's different about his approach, it's just that you're not going to be privy to that, NotKevin.

Duda wrote: "I wouldn't read too much into it. It's 10 games...It's not like I'm laying out missiles"

[Frayed Knot]

Yes it's only ten games ... BUTTTTT
1) he's hitting LHPs better (4 for 8 so far)
2) he's using all parts of the field

[Vic Sage]

clearly BA is not the end all or be all, and should be given vastly less credit than it has been for most of the 20th century, but it's not meaningless. And walks are good, and have been undervalued, but they are not QUITE as good as actual hits. A walk isn't going to drive in a guy, unless the bases are loaded at the time. In which case, a hit would still drive in more. Given a guy who hits .250/30hrs and one who hits .300/30 hrs, I'll take the guy who hits .300, thanks.

And yes, Duda hits the ball hard, and he's hitting LHPers better, even going the other way on occasion. These are all good things and bode well. But its still just 10 games. Even Duda realizes that and said as much. Can he maintain this new approach for a month, much less a whole season? I hope so, but its still an open question until he does it.

[Ceetar]

consider he's been pretty damn good for years I'd imagine that's so.

Sure, hit's produce more runs than walks do, but I'd rather have the guy that takes 10 more walks than the guy that has 10 more hits. In almost every case the guy that walks is the better player.

i.e. a guy batting .270/.330 produces more runs than a guy batting .300/300.

So yeah, Duda's fine at .250/.350

[batmagadanleadoff]

How do you know? The .300 hitter will have a higher SLG and perhaps OPS.

Need more info. And not necessarily true, even with those scant numbers you post.

[Zvon]

Vic Sage wrote: Look, I'm very happy Duda has had 10 good games and so has gotten off to a strong start, but he's a lifetime .250 hitter, so lets not designate him the face of the franchise for the next decade just yet.

Agreed. But this is baseball. Lets get excited about the possibility.

I have put in for a nickname change. He has grown out of The Dude.
The Lumberjack. Get it? He takes the lumber and then he jacks one!

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Awwwwwwww, my nicknames never stick.