Only 1 More Day Til We Beat That Tom Koehler Douche IGT 9/2

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Niese vs. Brad Penney, who I can remember mixing it up with Zeile in a Mets-Marlin game 14 years ago.

[Frayed Knot]

Philosophical question: If Brad Penny disappears from ML baseball for a while and hasn't pitched against your team for a number of years, is he still an asshole?




Answer: Yes, yes he is.

[Edgy MD]

Penny sez it was all Bobby's fault.

Miami Marlins� Brad Penny says days of discord with Mets are over BY CLARK SPENCER CSPENCER@MIAMIHERALD.COM Don�t look for Brad Penny to take aim on an old nemesis, the New York Mets, when he faces them Tuesday. Those days of discord are long over. �That�s so long ago, I barely remember it,� Penny said of his role in an infamous feud that erupted between the two teams in 2001. �You�re talking about fights 13 years ago.� When he takes the mound on Tuesday at Marlins Park, Penny will be focused on trying to revive his career, not reignite old tensions between the two division rivals. That wasn�t the case during the spring and summer of �01, when relations between the teams deteriorated into a classic feud that some believe played a role in the firing of Marlins manager John Boles and simmered for years afterward. It all stemmed from separate incidents in spring training. The first was when Penny struck Mets catcher Mike Piazza with a pitch. The second came after Mets rookie Tsuyoshi Shinjo hit a home run and reached down to touch the plate ceremoniously after rounding the bases. That action drew a sharp rebuke from then-Marlins catcher Mike Redmond, who is now the team�s manager. �I wouldn�t do too much of that here,� Redmond was quoted as saying back then. �Pitchers won�t take too kindly to that.� Fast forward to May 24 at Shea Stadium. The Mets were leading by eight runs in the eighth when Shinjo broke an unwritten rule by swinging at a 3-0 pitch. That angered the Marlins and the following day, Penny hit Shinjo with a pitch. While Penny now denies hitting Shinjo on purpose, he was quoted at the time as saying: �He deserved to get hit. For what he did last night. He deserved to get hit; 11-3, you don�t do that.� Mets manager Bobby Valentine came out of the dugout, walked to the first-base line, and stared down Penny. Todd Zeile followed with a home run off Penny, after which he showered the pitcher in expletives. Benches for both teams cleared, but no punches were thrown. But Penny said what angered him most were comments by Valentine that appeared in the next day�s newspaper. �I think Bobby Valentine had a lot to do with it, with the stuff he was saying in the paper,� Penny said. �And as a manager, you can say whatever you want. You don�t have to bat. I really would prefer him to have to step in at the plate.� Penny said he was so upset and, for the first time ever, revealed he confronted Valentine the next day in the Mets manager�s office. Penny was waiting for him when Valentine entered. �I talked to Bobby about it,� Penny said. �He said he didn�t mean any of it. He said he was just trying to fire his team up.� While Valentine was making a scene on the field during the disturbance, Boles took no active role in the flare-up, and there are many who feel that might have been a factor in his being fired three days later in Pittsburgh. The spat didn�t end there. �I vowed that [Zeile] would never hit another home run off me again,� Penny said. �And I don�t think he hit very well against me after that.� When the pitcher and hitter came face to face in subsequent showdowns, Penny often threw behind Zeile�s back as a warning. Though Redmond declined to be interviewed for this article, he has said previously that Zeile turned to him after one of Penny�s warning shots and said, �Is this ever going to end?� Eventually, it did. Other than Penny, who is back in a second go-around with the Marlins, the combatants have all been dispersed and the memory has largely faded. There is no great animosity between the two rivals, who are fighting for third place and not a whole lot else as the season winds down. The Mets, more than any other team, have given Penny the most trouble over his career. He is 5-13 against them. �We got to change that [Tuesday],� he said. And let history rest eternal.

[seawolf17]

HEY

[Frayed Knot]

"It was all Bobby's fault" was an all-purpose go-to excuse for a while for lots of parties.

[Edgy MD]

Except Penny is still using it.

[Lefty Specialist]

Penny won't be throwing at anybody; he's hanging on by his fingernails. Fortunately he's facing the Nerf bats of the Metropolitan lineup.

[dinosaur jesus]

Every time you write him off, he turns up again. Like a Brad Penny.

[Edgy MD]

That comment was worthy of Rich Goodhard Becker.

[HahnSolo]

The amazing thing about that article is that Todd Zeile actually hit a home run in 2001.

[Guest d'Kong76]

NY Mets at Miami
When: 7:10 PM ET, Tuesday, September 2, 2014
Where: Marlins Park, Miami, Florida
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The Miami Marlins may not be able to afford Giancarlo Stanton someday, but in the meantime, they are certainly getting their money's worth. The 24-year-old slugger, who leads the National League with 34 home runs and is tied for the major-league lead with 99 RBIs, tries to help keep Miami in postseason contention when the Marlins host the New York Mets on Tuesday. Miami is 5 1/2 games out of the second wild-card spot with three teams to pass after its 9-6 victory Monday.

Stanton, who has played every game this season, belted a solo shot Monday and has gone deep a team-record 22 times at Marlins Park - eclipsing the previous single-season record at home of 21 set by Dan Uggla in 2009. The Californian also has 62 RBIs at Marlins Park, three shy of breaking the team record set by Miguel Cabrera in 2007 and equaled by Hanley Ramirez in 2009. Miami's Brad Penny returns to the rotation and opposes Jonathon Niese, who has lost two straight starts.

TV:
7:10 p.m. ET, SNY (New York), FSN Florida (Miami)

PITCHING MATCHUP:
Mets LH Jonathon Niese (7-10, 3.48 ERA) vs. Marlins RH Brad Penny (1-0, 5.40)

Niese yielded five earned runs and 17 hits over 14 innings in his last two turns, including a 6-1 loss to Atlanta on Thursday. The 27-year-old Ohio native is 4-5 with a 3.87 ERA in 15 starts against Miami, but 1-0, 1.42 ERA in three turns at Marlins Park. Stanton is 9-for-24 with two homers, five RBIs and eight strikeouts versus Niese.

Penny's first two appearances since 2012 were starts in early August, when he recorded a victory and a no-decision while yielding five earned runs in 10 innings. The 36-year-old Oklahoman's last two outings came in relief, including a scoreless inning in the Marlins' 5-2 loss in Atlanta on Friday. Penny is 5-13 with a 6.25 ERA in 23 games against the Mets - last facing them in relief while with San Francisco in 2012 - and has trouble with David Wright (12-for-20, four homers, 10 RBIs, five walks).

WALK-OFFS:
1. New York's 2B Dilson Herrera, 20, the youngest player in the majors and the only one to rise there from Class A this season, recorded his first major-league home run and triple Monday in his fourth game after registering his first hit Saturday and first RBI on Sunday. Herrera, from Colombia, was undrafted.
2. Miami had lost five straight games to the Mets before its victory on Monday.
3. The Mets committed six errors - one shy of the club record, including three during the eighth inning Monday when Miami broke a 6-6 tie with three runs.

[G-Fafif]

"SUCK ON THIS FOR SHINJO!" Zeile allegedly dared Penny.

And in the present day...

Lagares-8
Granderson-9
Wright-5
Duda-3
d�Arnaud-2
den Dekker-7
Herrera-4
Flores-6
Niese-1

[Edgy MD]

This was the exchange that led Valentine to say, "Two guys got hit, but theirs had the bigger icepack, so I guess we won."

Classic Bobby quote, in that one can read it as to say, "Let's move on and not make too much of it," or one can read it as to say, "HA-HA! Fuck you, Cliff Floyd, and fuck you, Marlins!"

Cliff was pissed and hung on to his pissedness, subsequently declaring he'd have never signed with the Mets had Valentine still been manager, prompting Wide BeeGee to retort, "I can think of 26,233,712 reasons he might."

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Bobby was funny.

Oh, and he's available to replace Terry if the front office dares.

I'd guess that's a bit of a longshot inasmuch as the writers all seem pro-Terry and will really rip into Valentine based on the poor experience in Boston; plus Bobby's rep as a controlling type will invite conflict with the Eggheads running the show here.

But it would be fun.

[Edgy MD]

If Terry goes, the drumbeat for Backman will be so strong, there'll be absolutely no press agitation for Bobby 2.0 as there has been in the past. Backman (or the notion of Backman) will give the press all the hope for story-generating personality that Bobby gives, with none of the baggage. And they'll sell him to the fans as the fiery leader the Mets need and the brass fears. (This will double bait the management to look weaker than the press --- if you don't hire him, you're cowards, if you do, it's to capitulated to us. HAH!)

What they'll never ask is whether Backman is as smart or as qualified as Bobby. Maybe he is. But I really think Boston wrecked the last piece of Bobby's brand.

Anyways, let's crush some Penny on a railroad track and dedicate the win to Tsuyoshi Shinjo, Todd Zeile, and Bobby Valentine.

[Guest d'Kong76]

Yelich, LF
Solano, 2B
Stanton, RF
McGehee, 3B
Ozuna, CF
Baker, 1B
Saltalamacchia, C
Hechavarria, SS
Penny, P

[ashie62]

Bring on Kevin Mitchell and his saw..... fish be afraid.

[Frayed Knot]

Toni Basil is tonight's home plate umpire?

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Oh wait, I misheard, it's Toby Basner.
That makes much more sense.


2-0 early and we're hitting' Brad Penny ... not all that hard so far, but more often than not first time through the order.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

TRUE FACT: Alyssa Milano put her lips on that horse's ass.

And Lagares whips him as if Juan were wearing racing silks-- the double makes it 3-0 already.

[Edgy MD]

Dilson Herrera taking a no-errorer into the second.

[Guest Trachsel My Tears]

He is on a roll!

[Guest Trachsel My Tears]

Yell "Itch!" (and let slip the dogs of war) hits a 2 out double off Niese.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

SugarPants. Yipes.
Stanton. Cripes.
One run game.
Herrera no-errorer still intact.

[Zvon]

So they scored on an error and Stanton hit a homer. What else is new.

Oh, we're winning 4-3.

Ha, Stantons HR landed in the fountain thingy. Did I say Ha? I meant wow.

[Frayed Knot]

Juan Lagares is a golden god!

[Zvon]

Flores's lazy feet get it in gear after initially freezing flat. Good thing too, he had to score on that.
5-3 Metropolitans

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Thanks be that they aren't giving out a Grandy bobblehead tonight.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

PANTSED.

[Frayed Knot]

Four-run lead is restored.
Our chances of winning this game just rose to 35%

[Zvon]

Great at bat by Duda.

7-3