IGT 8/18 Cubs at Mets 12:10 Colon v. Hendricks

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Zvon wrote: In all my years here have I ever said that the Mets suck? I don't think so. I hate to have to threaten my team but if they don't find a way to win this one I'm going to tell everyone that the Mets suck.

Yes but why would they believe you?

[Zvon]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Zvon wrote: In all my years here have I ever said that the Mets suck? I don't think so. I hate to have to threaten my team but if they don't find a way to win this one I'm going to tell everyone that the Mets suck. Yes but why would they believe you?

Proofs in the puddin'.

[Guest d'Kong76]

Moiph says no so fast, fellas!

[Zvon]

Ugh. I'm sure I mentioned that the umps suck. Would Dave have swung at that if he wasnt squeezed on the preceding pitch?

[Guest d'Kong76]

That lead-off double is fizzling fast ...

[Frayed Knot]

This series sucked like the Yanqui series sucked: win the first two then barely show up for the next two.

[Guest d'Kong76]

Zvon wrote: In all my years here have I ever said that the Mets suck?

That's a lot of years of suck, surprised you never
like exploded!

[Zvon]

Hey EVERYONE!!! THE METS SUCK!!!!

Not just for this game. Not just this line-up. Not just the front office.
This entire team sucks.



(pitchings has actually been decent overall)

[Ceetar]

play den Dekker and Flores and pinch hit Niese, see if you score runs. gee..

[Edgy MD]

Well, I am left to conclude that the Cubs have some of the best pitching in the league. What alternative could there be?

[Lefty Specialist]

Sheesh. It's like the whole freaking team has gone to sleep. Everyone's in a slump simultaneously. Frankly, there's nothing Terry can do when all his options suck. Maybe they can activate deGrom early and put him in the lineup. I can't think of anything else that'd work.

[Edgy MD]

They need a dude or two.

[Lefty Specialist]

One or two bats won't be enough. This team has across the board deficiencies in situational hitting. It hasn't had a real lead off hitter since 2011. It has no power, very little speed and poor game management. This team is only less than 20 games under .500 by virtue of its pitching. The hitting is atrocious and won't be better next year without a Roto-rostering.

[Guest d'Kong76]

Lefty Specialist wrote: This team is only less than 20 games under .500 by virtue of its pitching.

Lagares' glove probably added six games to only
being 8 games under .500 too. Maybe.

[Ceetar]

Lefty Specialist wrote: One or two bats won't be enough. This team has across the board deficiencies in situational hitting. It hasn't had a real lead off hitter since 2011. It has no power, very little speed and poor game management. This team is only less than 20 games under .500 by virtue of its pitching. The hitting is atrocious and won't be better next year without a Roto-rostering.

nah. Lagares, if he can walk a little more, is adding enough defense. Granderson's had a crappy August after a crappy April, but that's small stuff. Duda is very good. d'Arnaud showing signs of being very good. Wright's been banged up all year but it's not like he's bad. Murphy's good. So what's that leave? SS and LF. even just one is fine. Find a SS that won't embarrass you and you can even platoon it together in LF with Nieuwenhuis, Brown, Puello, den Dekker, random veteran retreads.

The problem lately is that Flores and den Dekker haven't shown they're major leaguers, and the Mets pitchers pretend that it's not their job to hit so you literally only have 2/3rds a lineup and if any of that slumps (which it is right now) they don't score. It's not that there are wholesale problems.

Really, a LFer that could hit 20 home runs and play decent defense would go a long long way. (hey, a guy like Chris Young a couple of years ago..)

[Gwreck]

The Mets' team OPS is .662. 14th of 15 National League teams. Even if we had Troy Tulowitzki playing a full healthy season that wouldn't be enough to fix the offense.

[Edgy MD]

Lefty Specialist wrote: One or two bats won't be enough.

I don't think the condition of "enough" exists.

Lefty Specialist wrote: This team has across the board deficiencies in situational hitting.

I'm far more concerned about hitting-hitting than situational hitting.

Lefty Specialist wrote: It hasn't had a real lead off hitter since 2011.

Well maybe that could be one of the dudes.

Lefty Specialist wrote: It has no power...

Hitting-hitting!

Lefty Specialist wrote: ...very little speed...

If I particularly was concerned about speed, I'd point out that they have the defending stolen base titlist rotting on the bench. But speed-shmeed. They have plenty of speed. You just can't steal first.

Lefty Specialist wrote: ... and poor game management.

Believing there's a game-management strategy that will turn four hits into victory with any consistency is a trap.

Lefty Specialist wrote: This team is only less than 20 games under .500 by virtue of its pitching.

Well, everybody would be worse if not for the players who are doing better.

Lefty Specialist wrote: The hitting is atrocious...

Well, I'm certainly longing for more hitting.

Lefty Specialist wrote: ... and won't be better next year without a Roto-rostering.

I think it'll almost certainly be better next season. Gravity. It'll almost certainly be better next week, I think. The key is whether there is meaningful and intentional progress beyond gravity.

[Frayed Knot]

Eh, it's not like we're going to be facing the likes of Kazmir, Samardzija, & Kershaw in the next three games.
Oh wait!!


Lots of SCRABBLE points in that trio. Probably not too many hits, though, I'm afraid.

[Guest themetfairy]

Everyone was phoning it in today. Even the guy who was supposed to update the Topps Starting Lineup Cards didn't bother showing up -

[ashie62]

I can feel another Mets season turning to dust...

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Everyone was phoning it in today. Even the guy who was supposed to update the Topps Starting Lineup Cards didn't bother showing up -

I know that's a small thing but that's just awful. What on the slim chance it was somebody's first game?

What if your kid* made it a point to see that sign updated when they came to the park? I didn't even realize till yesterday.

*-like mine

Mets: We don't give a shit.

I'll bet they don't even pay the guy who changes that, it's some intern.

[Zvon]

Colon's mom passed away. That sucks.

[MFS62]

I'd like to toss some luv at Carlos Torres.
For the past two years, he's been the glue that has held this staff together. He's been used as a starter, middle man, setup man and closer. And, except for what was probably an arm weary recent stretch, has performed very well.
Every staff needs a guy like that.
We're lucky Carlos is our guy.

Later

[Edgy MD]

Everyone was phoning it in today. Even the guy who was supposed to update the Topps Starting Lineup Cards didn't bother showing up - I know that's a small thing but that's just awful. What on the slim chance it was somebody's first game? What if your kid* made it a point to see that sign updated when they came to the park? I didn't even realize till yesterday. *-like mine Mets: We don't give a shit. I'll bet they don't even pay the guy who changes that, it's some intern.

It's a small thing that's a big thing.

[HahnSolo]

I went to the 12:10 start against Philly a few weeks back, and they didn't update the cards for that start either.
Little Solo noticed first, and shook his head. He's learning.

[Edgy MD]

If this is a repeated fuck-up, somebody deserves a pointed call.

Kids notice the shit out of that stuff.