Who Am I? & The Dedication & Re-creation of Butterball Field

[Zvon]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Zvon wrote: Is that a real beard? Dave Kingman. Try and pull it off and you'll find out. Zvon wrote: As a collector of Met pics that is an amazin' pic of Shneck. Which one are you talkin' about? The b&w with Staub and Milner or The Man From Topps shot?

Both actually, because I've never seen either before. But the quality of the Shneck stands out.

[Zvon]

so is that what we are gonna call it? The Sadeki Spot? I like it, though I think of it as the Westrum Wing of the facility.

[batmagadanleadoff]

This The Man From Topps photo of this Met pitcher expands the view of the Sadecki spot, much like the hurler's personal assortment of baffling and screwy pitches expanded the strike zone for those unfortunate hitters who batted against him. Who is he?

[Zvon]

This The Man From Topps photo of this Met pitcher expands the view of the Sadecki spot, much like the hurler's personal assortment of baffling and screwy pitches expanded the strike zone for those unfortunate hitters who batted against him. Who is he?

He's our Tug The white structure, is that a house trailer kinda thing?

[batmagadanleadoff]

Zvon wrote: He's our Tug The white structure, is that a house trailer kinda thing?

Which picture?

[Zvon]

[Zvon]

And that guys name is Lute? Not Luke?(yea, I'm takin notes)

[batmagadanleadoff]

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Zvon wrote: He's our Tug The white structure, is that a house trailer kinda thing?

It's hard to tell from the Lute Barnes photo. But the Mets had a white clubhouse there with what looked like aluminum siding. That clubhouse was there from when the Mets moved in in 1962. The clubhouse might be the white structure in the Barnes photo.

[batmagadanleadoff]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: ] He's our Tug The white structure, is that a house trailer kinda thing? It's hard to tell from the Lute Barnes photo. But the Mets had a white clubhouse there with what looked like aluminum siding. That clubhouse was there from when the Mets moved in in 1962. The clubhouse might be the white structure in the Barnes photo.

The structure in the Barnes photo might also be a trailer, as you suggest. I see that it's raised. (perhaps on wheels?)

[Zvon]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: ] He's our Tug The white structure, is that a house trailer kinda thing? It's hard to tell from the Lute Barnes photo. But the Mets had a white clubhouse there with what looked like aluminum siding. That clubhouse was there from when the Mets moved in in 1962. The clubhouse might be the white structure in the Barnes photo.

I noticed it was up off the ground, but I guess every structure down there is. I was curious if it was mobile, possibly screwing up the consistent nature of the Sadeki Spot.

[batmagadanleadoff]

] He's our Tug The white structure, is that a house trailer kinda thing? It's hard to tell from the Lute Barnes photo. But the Mets had a white clubhouse there with what looked like aluminum siding. That clubhouse was there from when the Mets moved in in 1962. The clubhouse might be the white structure in the Barnes photo. I noticed it was up off the ground, but I guess every structure down there is. I was curious if it was mobile, possibly screwing up the consistent nature of the Sadeki Spot.

Here's one partial view of the clubhouse. There are better views, especially from the Stengel years.

[Zvon]

] He's our Tug The white structure, is that a house trailer kinda thing? It's hard to tell from the Lute Barnes photo. But the Mets had a white clubhouse there with what looked like aluminum siding. That clubhouse was there from when the Mets moved in in 1962. The clubhouse might be the white structure in the Barnes photo. I noticed it was up off the ground, but I guess every structure down there is. I was curious if it was mobile, possibly screwing up the consistent nature of the Sadeki Spot. Here's one partial view of the clubhouse. There are better views, especially from the Stengel years.

I found that pic quite recently while looking for old pics for the cards. I did wonder where the hell he was standing.

[batmagadanleadoff]

This player appeared in a Topps baseball set in two different seasons: once as a Met and once as a Cub. But he only played in actual MLB games for one of the two teams. The Mets and the Cubs are the only organizations this player ever belonged to. "What the guy above me in the Cards uniform just said. Except I've got the repeating consecutive letters in my last name only". bump Damn I know his face. The next clue is in this anagram: A Citi Field Hookworm Intro Hi (Randy) Bobb. A Citi Field Hookworm Intro is an anagram for On A Rookie Card With Tim Foli That's a clown anagram bro! lol. I missed this answer. GJ on getting the Bobb G.

A Randy Bobb sighting! On the Mets 32 man roster!

[Edgy MD]

I like those little outlines of the channels in the rounded-corner rectangles to look like tiny TV screens. I'm trying to remember the distinction between the black number on the white background vs. the white on black. Was one network and the other local? One VHF and the other UHF?

[Zvon]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: A Randy Bobb sighting! On the Mets 32 man roster!

I love seeing shit like that^

Something like that Edge. I have an old TV guide somewhere. Bought the one for the week I was born, on the in O.C. boardwalk for a few bucks.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Edgy MD wrote: I like those little outlines of the channels in the rounded-corner rectangles to look like tiny TV screens. I'm trying to remember the distinction between the black number on the white background vs. the white on black. Was one network and the other local? One VHF and the other UHF?

UHF was every channel above 13. I can't think of the word for it but the channels in the white background weren't available, at least in the NYC area. Or sometimes they'd come in with heavy snow, ghost imaged, and without sound. But usually, those were dead channels. VHF in the NYC area was six working channels 2, 4, 7, 5, 9, 11 and 13. And in the pre cable era, that was about as good as it got.

[batmagadanleadoff]

The "C" is for color. Wow!

[batmagadanleadoff]

[batmagadanleadoff]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Edgy MD wrote: I like those little outlines of the channels in the rounded-corner rectangles to look like tiny TV screens. I'm trying to remember the distinction between the black number on the white background vs. the white on black. Was one network and the other local? One VHF and the other UHF? UHF was every channel above 13. I can't think of the word for it but the channels in the white background weren't available, at least in the NYC area. Or sometimes they'd come in with heavy snow, ghost imaged, and without sound. But usually, those were dead channels. VHF in the NYC area was six working channels 2, 4, 7, 5, 9, 11 and 13. And in the pre cable era, that was about as good as it got.

Out of town channels. That's what the white background channels were.

[Zvon]

That's the oldest channel 9 I could find out there.

[stevejrogers]

Edgy MD wrote: I like those little outlines of the channels in the rounded-corner rectangles to look like tiny TV screens. I'm trying to remember the distinction between the black number on the white background vs. the white on black. Was one network and the other local? One VHF and the other UHF?

Personally I'm kinda shocked they really did that in newspaper TV listings!

I saw a bit on Cheers where it had to be done for the sake of the plot of the episode (during the 1994 strike the local station ran classic games, and one of the character notices that Sam Malone did come into the game as a relief pitcher) but never thought they really did run full rosters and such.

[Zvon]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: In my mind, this fringy Met never escaped the Minors, even though he actually did play for the Mets. Above, he's standing at the Sadecki Spot years before it would be named for the versatile early '70's Met hurler.

Just came across a '68 card of his. That's Larry Miller. I pictured him, from that photo, to have a full head of hair. He doesn't.

[Guest Mets Guy in Michigan]

VHF in the NYC area was six working channels 2, 4, 7, 5, 9, 11 and 13. And in the pre cable era, that was about as good as it got.

Oh man, and in the pre-remote control days, there was that dial that my sisters would spin through so quickly that it would eventually break and we'd need pliers to turn the knob!

I remember 2 was CBS, 4 was NBC, 7 was ABC, 9 was WOR, and 11 was WPIX, with 13 being public television -- which Billy Joel immortalized in "Pressure," one of his cool New York references. But what were channel 5's letters?

[Edgy MD]

Yeah, but you could get signals on channels 3, 6, 8 and 10 but switching the VHF channel there, and squirrling around with the UHF channel.

God knows why we would do this, but we were kids. And anything that we would find would not only be snowy, but weird. German puppet shows with a cardboard set or something.

Bigger questions, though.

Name that batter for two points.
Name that catcher for five points.
Name that ump for ten points.

[G-Fafif]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: VHF in the NYC area was six working channels 2, 4, 7, 5, 9, 11 and 13. And in the pre cable era, that was about as good as it got. Oh man, and in the pre-remote control days, there was that dial that my sisters would spin through so quickly that it would eventually break and we'd need pliers to turn the knob! I remember 2 was CBS, 4 was NBC, 7 was ABC, 9 was WOR, and 11 was WPIX, with 13 being public television -- which Billy Joel immortalized in "Pressure," one of his cool New York references. But what were channel 5's letters?

WNEW.

[Guest Mets � Willets Point]

Growing up in Connecticut I can tell that channel 3 was a CBS affiliate from Hartford and channel 8 was an ABC affiliate from New Haven. The Connecticut NBC affiliate was a UHF'er on channel 30. These came through fuzzy for us as we got better signals from New York City.

[G-Fafif]

In the '70s, NBC shows would be listed in the Metro NY TV Guide as airing on Channels 4 and 20, 20 getting the clear-TV screen treatment. Try as I might, I never got 20 to come in on the South Shore of Long Island. Now and again you could pick up 3 or 8. I loved that the Mets were important enough to have a channel in Connecticut airing their games.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

We could get 8 from New Haven, but even their non-network programming was similar to 7 so little need.

[Guest Mets � Willets Point]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: We could get 8 from New Haven, but even their non-network programming was similar to 7 so little need.

Yeah, they were the basically the same except for the local news.

[Edgy MD]

Edgy MD wrote: YName that batter for two points. Name that catcher for five points. Name that ump for ten points.

Anybody? The batter would seemingly be Agee, his body looking perhaps a little more slender with his torso twisted in full torque. But I can't come up with an Agee-on-the-Mets-era catcher whose name ended in NDA and wore a number ending in zero.