IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

[Fman99]

Ugh. I have nervous.

[Zvon]

dinosaur jesus wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Terry NOT over-playing the lefty/righty thing this inning (IMHO of course). All you want here is to get to Bobby P with as big a lead as possible. I'd kind of rather not see Parnell in a third straight game. Not sure who I would like to see, though.

It's gotta be Parnell imo. Not for four outs tho. Get thru this Lyon.

[ashie62]

Booth called it

[Fman99]

MOTHER FUCKER.

[Edgy MD]

It ain't about Harvey, folks.

[ashie62]

Harvey is going to get sick of this shit...

[Frayed Knot]

Of course, if every single reliever is going to fail then it doesn't matter much what you do.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

He's just such a big-ass piece of meat right now.

I'll remind you: this started with going lefty-righty to match up better against Denard Span with one on, two out.

Edited June 28, 2013 by Guest

[ashie62]

Edgy MD wrote: It ain't about Harvey, folks.

Terry got outmanaged...

[Frayed Knot]

dinosaur jesus wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Terry NOT over-playing the lefty/righty thing this inning (IMHO of course). All you want here is to get to Bobby P with as big a lead as possible. I'd kind of rather not see Parnell in a third straight game. Not sure who I would like to see, though.

That's part of the problem in using him for the 3-run "cookie" save two nights ago ... but that's a whole 'nother story altogether.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

Ashie62 wrote: Edgy MD wrote: It ain't about Harvey, folks. Terry got outmanaged...

Outmanaged? Davey hasn't done anything since he signed the lineup card.

[Frayed Knot]

Swan Swan H wrote: Ashie62 wrote: Edgy MD wrote: It ain't about Harvey, folks. Terry got outmanaged... Outmanaged? Davey hasn't done anything since he signed the lineup card.

Well yeah he did, he brought in two PHers who both failed to get on, and one reliever who increased the Mets lead.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

The thing is... Davey's done less.

[ashie62]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: The thing is... Davey's done less.

The Nationals got the best possible matchup possible Zimmerman with bags juiced.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

Ashie62 wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: The thing is... Davey's done less. The Nationals got the best possible matchup possible Zimmerman with bags juiced.

After Terry told the relievers to load 'em up, right?

[Frayed Knot]

Clippard's one of these relievers who throws a million pitches and takes half a minute between each.

[Frayed Knot]

Ashie62 wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: The thing is... Davey's done less. The Nationals got the best possible matchup possible Zimmerman with bags juiced.

Yes, that's known as the lineup

[Lefty Specialist]

I'm tired of Brandon Lyon. Nibble, nibble, nibble off the plate, then get behind and have to groove one. DFA his ass.

[bmfc1]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: The thing is... Davey's done less.

That's the point, LWFS. Let the players play. Aardsma gave up a ground ball single and got an out but TC had to make the "by the book" move and then all hell broke loose. He used two pitchers to avoid letting Aardsma face a lefty who wasn't the tying run.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

Look, could he have used Rice against Span? Probably, but Harvey was done, and the pen is the pen. Who should he have used against Zimmerman? Hawkins? Wheeler? Skip Lockwood?

[Fman99]

bmfc1 wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: The thing is... Davey's done less. That's the point, LWFS. Let the players play. Aardsma gave up a ground ball single and got an out but TC had to make the "by the book" move and then all hell broke loose. He used two pitchers to avoid letting Aardsma face a lefty who wasn't the tying run.

Yeah, I'm kind of on this also. It seems to work 49% of the time. Do you think Casey Stengel was pulling relievers immediately after they got an out? Or Ralph Houk? etc.

[Zvon]

ugh damn, of course LaRoche picks that one.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

The 1961 Yankees had 47 complete games. Nobody was pitching in relief.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Fman99 wrote: bmfc1 wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: The thing is... Davey's done less. That's the point, LWFS. Let the players play. Aardsma gave up a ground ball single and got an out but TC had to make the "by the book" move and then all hell broke loose. He used two pitchers to avoid letting Aardsma face a lefty who wasn't the tying run. Yeah, I'm kind of on this also. It seems to work 49% of the time. Do you think Casey Stengel was pulling relievers immediately after they got an out? Or Ralph Houk? etc.

To be clear, I'm also on Team Less-Is-More.

[Guest Kong76]

And anudder t'ing ... tell 'em to stop that Korman stuff too, fatso!

Edited June 28, 2013 by Guest

[Frayed Knot]

Fman99 wrote: Do you think Casey Stengel was pulling relievers immediately after they got an out? Or Ralph Houk? etc.

Stengel is often credited with virtually inventing platooning.

[bmfc1]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: To be clear, I'm also on Team Less-Is-More.

I was concurring with you.

[Zvon]

[Fman99]

Oh, Mets bullpen. Why must you Mets bullpen me like this?

[Frayed Knot]

The bottom line here is that the entire bullpen -- Parnell included -- have given up more EXTRA BASE HITS than they've gotten outs.
If the pen, which has actually been fine lately, is going to act like that there's not much Terry can do about it except for allowing Harvey to go 140 pitches (or more).