IGT 6/21/13 - NYM @ PHI - Smoked Hamels

[Guest vtmet]

Ceetar wrote: I was all excited about Lagares starting to hit until I realized he hasn't walked since April 28th and that's not going to cut it.

baby steps...you don't get nibbled until you show that you can hit...

[Zvon]

The thing about Duda at first, he can make up for his bad hands by being so close to the base he gets another chance.

[Ceetar]

vtmet wrote: Ceetar wrote: I was all excited about Lagares starting to hit until I realized he hasn't walked since April 28th and that's not going to cut it. baby steps...you don't get nibbled until you show that you can hit...

nah, T here are so many bad relievers that just struggle to throw strikes.

and he's always had this reputation.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

Diekman? Where's Lester the Rat.

[Guest vtmet]

prior to tonight's 2 doubles and a single; Lagares was hitting .286 with 2 doubles and a triple in his last 9 starts...

[Ceetar]

vtmet wrote: prior to tonight's 2 doubles and a single; Lagares was hitting .286 with 2 doubles and a triple in his last 9 starts...

15 for 45. .333/.333 whatever that slugging is.

[Zvon]

Torres with another nice inning pitched. I'm liking Torres. I'm liking Met things. This is good.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

Ceetar wrote: vtmet wrote: prior to tonight's 2 doubles and a single; Lagares was hitting .286 with 2 doubles and a triple in his last 9 starts... 15 for 45. .333/.333 whatever that slugging is.

That would be 21/45, or a .467 slugging percentage and an .800 OPS. For reference, Duda's OPS is .793

It seems like he's starting to get it.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

Holy moley. Adrian Johnson may be worse than Angel Hernandez.

[Zvon]

OMG I shoulda been an ump. I thought you had to be good at umping to be one. That's not the case because 75% of the umps I see SUCK.

[Guest Kong76]

Never seen anything like that ... ump gets call right
and then reverses call for seemingly no reason??

[Zvon]

Kong76 wrote: Never seen anything like that ... ump gets call right and then reverses call???

Whats with that? he did a BIG safe wave, and as the throw is going to first he punches him out. How can you even do that?

[Zvon]

The big Howard stands between us and a win.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

Books!

[Guest themetfairy]

A nice come from behind win!

[Zvon]

Bobby P shuts the door on the big guy! Gj Parnell. Good game!

[Frayed Knot]

I have no idea what to make of that call (callS really) at 2nd. I'd be throwing things around the room right now if that turned out to make a difference in the game, and it quite easily could have.


Lagares was the star of the game both offensively and defensively.


Three more not just scoreless but hitless innings for the NYM Pen.

[Zvon]

Frayed Knot wrote: I have no idea what to make of that call (callS really) at 2nd. I'd be throwing things around the room right now if that turned out to make a difference in the game, and it quite easily could have.

If anyone learns any details, like in the post game show or press , please let me know what the hell happened there. The guy had to have some kind of reason to reverse that. A reason that can be seen or at least understood.

[Guest vtmet]

Zvon wrote: OMG I shoulda been an ump. I thought you had to be good at umping to be one. That's not the case because 75% of the umps I see SUCK.

It's not that I don't agree with that assessment...but, when my kids were in fast pitch softball, I would occasionally get suckered into being the Homeplate umpire...it looks so freaking easy from where the parents sit; but it's a bitch to call balls/strikes (especially in f/p softball because the ball has so much movement and it's moving fast with the pitcher about 30 feet from homeplate)...we had this one kid's parent that would stand behind the backstop and tell the ump every "mistake" that he called when his daughter was at bat...

[Zvon]

vtmet wrote: Zvon wrote: OMG I shoulda been an ump. I thought you had to be good at umping to be one. That's not the case because 75% of the umps I see SUCK. It's not that I don't agree with that assessment...but, when my kids were in fast pitch softball, I would occasionally get suckered into being the Homeplate umpire...it looks so freaking easy from where the parents sit; but it's a bitch to call balls/strikes (especially in f/p softball because the ball has so much movement and it's moving fast with the pitcher about 30 feet from homeplate)...we had this one kid's parent that would stand behind the backstop and tell the ump every "mistake" that he called when his daughter was at bat...

I've umped. I know it can be a bitch. And there are assholes like that parent everywhere. That's amature ball.
What I'm saying is that its the major leagues. The guys with that gig should be the cream of the crop. The best in the business. How do these guys who are just so bad get to this level?

[Zvon]

[Guest themetfairy]

Watching the highlights of this game on the Philadelphia news sports report was fun

[Benjamin Grimm]

I think the Phillies announcers may be the least informed about the Mets (and, I assume, other Phillies opponents) than any other crew.

[Centerfield]

vtmet wrote: Zvon wrote: OMG I shoulda been an ump. I thought you had to be good at umping to be one. That's not the case because 75% of the umps I see SUCK. It's not that I don't agree with that assessment...but, when my kids were in fast pitch softball, I would occasionally get suckered into being the Homeplate umpire...it looks so freaking easy from where the parents sit; but it's a bitch to call balls/strikes (especially in f/p softball because the ball has so much movement and it's moving fast with the pitcher about 30 feet from homeplate)...we had this one kid's parent that would stand behind the backstop and tell the ump every "mistake" that he called when his daughter was at bat...

Agreed. I've been asked to ump my son's little league games and it is easily the most stressful thing you can do on a baseball field. As a player/fan/coach/parent I think I have a pretty good idea of what the right call is. The minute you're asked to be the decision maker the ability to make this distinction magically disappears (at least for me).

One game I was asked to ump was particularly bad. In a league where even catching the ball is rare, there were about seven or eight bang-bang plays, including one to end a one-run game. On some of them, I was just blindly guessing. Afterwards I asked a buddy of mine (whose son is on the same team) if I was anywhere near right. He said I was a great ump, spreading my blown calls evenly over both sides.

[Zvon]

They spent a few minutes going over the reverse call on Baseball Tonight last night. They showed it, said it was odd, showed it from a bunch of angles, wondered why the ump did what he did, and then moved on. No interest in talking to a manager,a player, maybe even the ump himself to clarify things.

And they opened the show going over Showalters tossing and the bad call involved with that. Seemed like a perfect time to talk about both. I love how Buck turned around and tossed all the umps.

[Edgy MD]

[Frayed Knot]

I think you're below the Mendoza line in PCTA* these days,


* Posting in the Correct Thread Average

[Guest vtmet]

Zvon wrote: They spent a few minutes going over the reverse call on Baseball Tonight last night. They showed it, said it was odd, showed it from a bunch of angles, wondered why the ump did what he did, and then moved on. No interest in talking to a manager,a player, maybe even the ump himself to clarify things. And they opened the show going over Showalters tossing and the bad call involved with that. Seemed like a perfect time to talk about both. I love how Buck turned around and tossed all the umps.

the ghost of Earl Weaver is reborn inside Showater's head...