A healthy worry about Johan Santana

[Edgy MD]

Johan, at some level, will probably command a guaranteed big league job, no?

I don't think his brand has degraded quite as much as Daisuke's, even if Matsuzaka is demonstrably healthy.

Maybe not.

[Centerfield]

You think? Second shoulder capsule surgery in three years? Chen Ming Wang's phone isn't exactly ringing off the hook.

[Edgy MD]

True enough. But Wang didn't have a pair of Cy Young Awards, plus a no-hitter nailed up after the first surgery. Matsuzaka comes across more as healthy but degraded.

Just my impression. You're probably right, and he's more than likely to end up coming to a camp without a big league contract. He just seems less likely to do that than Matsuzaka.

[metirish]

Didn't Wang have back to back 19 or 20 win seasons?

[Edgy MD]

Yeah, but winning 19 for the Yankees and winning the same for the Twins ain't the same thing.

Total Career CY Shares
Santana: 2.72
Wang: 0.36
Matsuzaka: 0.07

Wang and Santana will be 34 next season. Matsuzaka will be 33.

[Gwreck]

Total Career CY Shares Santana: 2.72

I still maintain Santana earned and was robbed of the 2008 Award.

[smg58]

If Johan's in any position to pitch next year he'll command a major league deal. It took quite a long time for Wang to get back to that. The Nationals threw a few million away on Wang waiting for him to be ready, if I recall.

I wouldn't say no to giving Johan a look, but I wouldn't be in a hurry to open my wallet for him.

[Frayed Knot]

Obviously it's going to depend on how Johan looks when he eventually gets around to throwing in front of whoever is interested in watching him.
So with that caveat in mind, I could see Santana getting a deal with a lower guarantee but higher ceiling as compared to what the already-proven healthy Matsuzaka will command.

[ashie62]

Personally? screw Santana and give Cano his 305 million!

[Edgy MD]

Are you quite sane?

You're hijacking a thread, ignoring the subject, coming up with a crazy new subject.

If that's what you want to talk about, please do the decent thing and start a new thread.

[ashie62]

If Matsuzaka is healthy could he get 2 years for 12??