Justin Upton traded to Braves

[ashie62]

Upton to Braves for 5 players highlighted by Martin Prado and P Wilson Delgado

[ashie62]

Upton and Chris Johnson for Prado Delgad Zeke Spruill Brandn Drury and Nick Ahmed.

Braves OF Upton Upton Heyward

[seawolf17]

Well, you gotta have a lot of Uptons or else you're gonna have a lot of triples bounce off the wall.

[bmfc1]

I'm trying to think of the right word for the Nationals and Braves rivalry. Exciting? Given that our team will lose about 26 of 36 games to these two teams this season, it won't be fun. It will make for good baseball but it will be in part at the Mets expense.

[smg58]

Prado has a 109 career OPS+ to Upton's 117. That's not a big difference, especially when you consider that Prado can play anywhere. Delgado is already major-league ready and is poised to improve, and two of the Braves' top 5 prospects are going as well. The Braves are paying for the 2011 version of Justin Upton, but they lose this deal if they get anything less than that.

[Ceetar]

smg58 wrote: Prado has a 109 career OPS+ to Upton's 117. That's not a big difference, especially when you consider that Prado can play anywhere. Delgado is already major-league ready and is poised to improve, and two of the Braves' top 5 prospects are going as well. The Braves are paying for the 2011 version of Justin Upton, but they lose this deal if they get anything less than that.

Also they lost Chipper Jones. So this isn't a straight up addition to 2012.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

smg58 wrote: Prado has a 109 career OPS+ to Upton's 117. That's not a big difference, especially when you consider that Prado can play anywhere. Delgado is already major-league ready and is poised to improve, and two of the Braves' top 5 prospects are going as well. The Braves are paying for the 2011 version of Justin Upton, but they lose this deal if they get anything less than that.

Yes, and if McDonald's didn't sell many hamburgers, they wouldn't be a very good fast-food restaurant.

Prado is versatile, and a decent hitter; he's also below-average defensively at all of those positions, is turning 30 shortly, and goes FA after this coming year. Upton's 25, under contract for 3 more years, has come at that OPS+ with enviable consistency (no season with below a .353 OBP or 107 OPS+), and has 2011-plus potential. If he does nothing but improve a little defensively and slot in somewhere between 2011 and his down years, the Braves should "win" this one hands-down.

Prado's a nice piece, but the Braves got a real favor from Upton himself negging the M's deal-- their package doesn't seem close to the Seattle offer. And if the D'Backs sold sub-maximally, well, then by definition, they didn't exactly get full value for a guy like Upton, then, right?

[ashie62]

When Justin Upton is "on" there are not many better..

[Frayed Knot]

Ashie62 wrote: Upton to Braves for 5 players highlighted by Martin Prado and P Wilson Delgado

Randall Delgado actually.

Doesn't seem like a great haul to me. John Sickels analyzes the prospects here and tends to agree.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Is it me or does it seem like Upton kinda got Beltraned out of Phoenix?

The Diamondbacks want a certain type of player � single-minded, outwardly intense, fierce. Cody Ross is that kind of player. Martin Prado is that kind of player. Upton, according to one of his former teammates, is not � at least not in the perception of Diamondbacks GM Kevin Towers and manager Kirk Gibson. �The problem is that he didn�t play with a high level of energy,� said the former teammate, who spoke on the condition that he would not be identified. �What I think they want is guys who play with the speed, energy and intensity of the Oregon football team � all out, all the time. �Justin doesn�t have that kind of attitude; he has a quiet intensity that doesn�t fit the mold of what KT and Gibby seem to want. He plays hard, but has to look suave doing it. Slamming into walls isn�t his thing, and they will accept nothing short of all-out sacrifice for the team.�

[ashie62]

That would be accurate...kinda like BJ in Tampa lol

[Edgy MD]

Black dudes can't catch a break in the hustle department.

[Frayed Knot]

Edgy MD wrote: Black dudes can't catch a break in the hustle department.

BJ, at least, doesn't deserve to catch any breaks. He earned his rep.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Edgy MD wrote: Black dudes can't catch a break in the hustle department.

My eyes caught on that "suave" bit, too.

[Ceetar]

Mets see the Braves 6 series. That means at least 6 'reunion' fluff pieces about Wright and the Uptons, and never mind if one game makes it's to National media.

[Frayed Knot]

D'Backs apparently believe in Martin Prado as a major 'get' in this trade cuz they've inked him to a four-year deal thru 2016.
He could have been a FA after 2013 otherwise.

[MFS62]

He plays hard, but has to look suave doing it.

When they used to compare DiMaggio with Mays, the term used at the time was "DiMaggio makes the hard pplays look easy. Mays makes the easy plays look hard".
If they said that DiMaggio was suave, and it would have been a compliment.

Later

[batmagadanleadoff]

He plays hard, but has to look suave doing it.

What the hell do you know about suave?

[Edgy MD]

MFS62 wrote: When they used to compare DiMaggio with Mays, the term used at the time was "DiMaggio makes the hard pplays look easy. Mays makes the easy plays look hard".

Edgy MD wrote: Black dudes can't catch a break in the hustle department.