Mets 2013 Roster

[Edgy MD]

Your Projected Opening Day 2012 Mets (Orange Indicates Players Have Options)

Starting Pitchers
43 R.A. Dickey DoB: 10/29/1974	35 =#FF8000]Dillon Gee DoB: 4/28/1986	33 =#FF8000]Matt Harvey DoB: 3/27/1989	49 Jonathon Niese DoB: 10/27/1986	57 Johan Santana DoB: 3/13/1979
Relief Pitchers
46 Manny Acosta DoB: 5/1/1981	27 =#FF8000]Pedro Beato DoB: 10/27/1986	66 =#FF8000]Josh Edgin DoB: 12/17/1986	48 Frank Francisco DoB: 9/11/1979	32 =#FF8000]Jennry Mejia DoB: 10/11/1989
Relief Pitchers		Catchers		Infielders
39 Bobby Parnell DoB: 9/8/1984	62 Elvin Ramirez DoB: 10/10/1962	16 Rob Johnson DoB: 7/22/1982	29 =#FF8000]Ike Davis DoB: 3/22/1987	30 Josh Thole DoB: 4/28/1986
Infielders
65 =#FF8000]Zach Lutz DoB: 6/3/1986	28 Daniel Murphy DoB: 4/1/1985	11 Ruben Tejada DoB: 10/27/1989	2 Justin Turner DoB: 11/23/1984	5 David Wright DoB: 12/20/1982
Outfielders
23 =#FF8000]Mike Baxter DoB: 12/7/1984	44 Jason Bay DoB: 9/20/1978	9 =#FF8000]Kirk Nieuwenhuis DoB: 8/7/1987	56 Andr�s Torres DoB:1/26/1978	1 =#FF8000]Jordany Valdespin DoB: 12/23/1987

Also on 40-Man Roster

Starting Pitchers		Relief Pitchers	Catchers	Infielders
75 =#FF8000]Jeurys Familia DoB: 10/10/1989 =#008000]In Buffalo	53 =#FF8000]Jeremy Hefner DoB: 3/11/1981 =#008000]In New York	73 =#FF8000]Robert Carson DoB: 1/23/1989 =#008000]In Buffalo	4 =#FF8000]Mike Nickeas DoB: 2/13/1983 =#008000]In Buffalo	71 =#FF8000]Wilmer Flores DoB: 8/6/1991 =#008000]In Binghamton
Infielders	Outfielders
74 =#FF8000]Reese Havens DoB: 10/20/1986 =#008000]In Binghamton	21 =#FF8000]Lucas Duda DoB: 2/3/1986 =#008000]In St. Buffalo		76 =#FF8000]Juan Lagares DoB: 3/17/1989 =#008000]In Binghamton	67 =#FF8000]Cesar Puello DoB: 4/1/1991 =#008000]In St. Lucie

Potential Free Agents

Starting Pitchers		Relief Pitchers
34 Mike Pelfrey DoB: 1/14/1984	55 Chris Young DoB: 5/25/1979	40 Tim Byrdak DoB: 10/37/1978	52 Ram�n Ram�rez DoB:8/31/1981	60 John Rauch DoB:9/27/1978
	Infielders		Outfielders
	13 Ronny Cede�o DoB: 2/2/1983		12 Scott Hairston DoB: 5/25/1980

Coaching Staff

Manager	Bench Coach	Batting Coach	Pitching Coach	Third Base Coach	First Base Coach
10 Terry Collins DoB: 5/27/1949	7 Bob Geren DoB: 9/22/1959	51 Dave Hudgens DoB: 12/5/1956	59 Dan Warthan DoB: 12/1/1952	18 Tim Teufel DoB: 7/7/1958	26 Tom Goodwin DoB: 8/27/1968
Bullpen Coach	Bullpen Catchers	Bullpen Catchers	Head Trainer	Assistant Trainer	Mascot
25 Ricky Bones DoB: 4/7/1969	78 Eric Langill DoB: 4/9/1979	79 Dave Racaniello DoB: 10/15/1981	=#BF8080]. Ray Ramirez =#BF8080].	=#BF8080]. Brian Chicklo =#BF8080].	=#BF8080]. Mr. Met =#BF8080]. .

[Edgy MD]

Tried to think about who's in better shape for next year --- Nieuwenhuis or Duda. Things could change, but right now, I'd say Nieuwie.

[Edgy MD]

Other notes:
[list:1ftay502][*:1ftay502]Currently thin on capable middle infielders, leaving Turner and Valdy as backup shortstops[/*:m:1ftay502]
[*:1ftay502]Interesting to see whether Mejia presents as a starter or reliever at camp next year[/*:m:1ftay502]
[*:1ftay502]Still lefty-heavy, and will be moreso after the shedding of Bay that seems to be now inevitable.[/*:m:1ftay502][/list:u:1ftay502]

[ashie62]

Edgy DC wrote: Tried to think about who's in better shape for next year --- Nieuwenhuis or Duda. Things could change, but right now, I'd say Nieuwie.

Duda traded..Newie? Mets or AAA..tough call.

Mr. Met will be back.

[Edgy MD]

Traded To Boston	Added To Projected Roster	Added To Potential Free Agents
Relief Pitchers		Catchers
=#0000FF]27 =#FF8000]Pedro Beato DoB: 10/27/1986	=#0000FF]19 Danny Herrera DoB: 10/21/1984	=#0000FF]6 Kelly Shoppach DoB: 4/29/1984

Your Projected Opening Day 2012 Mets (Orange Indicates Players Have Options)

Starting Pitchers
=#0000FF]43 R.A. Dickey DoB: 10/29/1974	=#0000FF]35 =#FF8000]Dillon Gee DoB: 4/28/1986	=#0000FF]33 =#FF8000]Matt Harvey DoB: 3/27/1989	=#0000FF]49 Jonathon Niese DoB: 10/27/1986	=#0000FF]57 Johan Santana DoB: 3/13/1979
Relief Pitchers
=#0000FF]46 Manny Acosta DoB: 5/1/1981 =#BF8080].	=#0000FF]66 =#FF8000]Josh Edgin DoB: 12/17/1986 =#BF8080].	=#0000FF]48 Frank Francisco DoB: 9/11/1979 =#BF8080].	=#0000FF]19 Danny Herrera DoB: 10/21/1984 =#FF0000](Not on Roster)	=#0000FF]32 =#FF8000]Jennry Mejia DoB: 10/11/1989 =#BF8080].
Relief Pitchers		Catchers		Infielders
=#0000FF]39 Bobby Parnell DoB: 9/8/1984	=#0000FF]62 Elvin Ramirez DoB: 10/10/1962	=#0000FF]16 Rob Johnson DoB: 7/22/1982	=#0000FF]30 Josh Thole DoB: 4/28/1986	=#0000FF]29 =#FF8000]Ike Davis DoB: 3/22/1987
Infielders
=#0000FF]65 =#FF8000]Zach Lutz DoB: 6/3/1986	=#0000FF]28 Daniel Murphy DoB: 4/1/1985	=#0000FF]11 Ruben Tejada DoB: 10/27/1989	=#0000FF]2 Justin Turner DoB: 11/23/1984	=#0000FF]5 David Wright DoB: 12/20/1982
Outfielders
=#0000FF]23 =#FF8000]Mike Baxter DoB: 12/7/1984	=#0000FF]44 Jason Bay DoB: 9/20/1978	=#0000FF]9 =#FF8000]Kirk Nieuwenhuis DoB: 8/7/1987	=#0000FF]56 Andr�s Torres DoB:1/26/1978	=#0000FF]1 =#FF8000]Jordany Valdespin DoB: 12/23/1987

Also on 40-Man Roster

Starting Pitchers		Relief Pitchers	Catchers	Infielders
=#0000FF]75 =#FF8000]Jeurys Familia DoB: 10/10/1989 =#008000]In Buffalo	=#0000FF]53 =#FF8000]Jeremy Hefner DoB: 3/11/1981 =#008000]In New York	=#0000FF]73 =#FF8000]Robert Carson DoB: 1/23/1989 =#008000]In Buffalo	=#0000FF]4 =#FF8000]Mike Nickeas DoB: 2/13/1983 =#008000]In Buffalo	=#0000FF]71 =#FF8000]Wilmer Flores DoB: 8/6/1991 =#008000]In Binghamton
Infielders	Outfielders
=#0000FF]74 =#FF8000]Reese Havens DoB: 10/20/1986 =#008000]In Binghamton	=#0000FF]21 =#FF8000]Lucas Duda DoB: 2/3/1986 =#008000]In St. Buffalo		=#0000FF]76 =#FF8000]Juan Lagares DoB: 3/17/1989 =#008000]In Binghamton	=#0000FF]67 =#FF8000]Cesar Puello DoB: 4/1/1991 =#008000]In St. Lucie

Potential Free Agents

Starting Pitchers		Relief Pitchers
=#0000FF]34 Mike Pelfrey DoB: 1/14/1984	=#0000FF]55 Chris Young DoB: 5/25/1979	=#0000FF]40 Tim Byrdak DoB: 10/37/1978	=#0000FF]52 Ram�n Ram�rez DoB:8/31/1981	=#0000FF]60 John Rauch DoB:9/27/1978
	Catchers	Infielders	Outfielders
	=#0000FF]6 Kelly Shoppach DoB: 4/29/1984	=#0000FF]13 Ronny Cede�o DoB: 2/2/1983	=#0000FF]12 Scott Hairston DoB: 5/25/1980

Coaching Staff

Manager	Bench Coach	Batting Coach	Pitching Coach	Third Base Coach	First Base Coach
=#0000FF]10 Terry Collins DoB: 5/27/1949	=#0000FF]7 Bob Geren DoB: 9/22/1959	=#0000FF]51 Dave Hudgens DoB: 12/5/1956	=#0000FF]59 Dan Warthan DoB: 12/1/1952	=#0000FF]18 Tim Teufel DoB: 7/7/1958	=#0000FF]26 Tom Goodwin DoB: 8/27/1968
Bullpen Coach	Bullpen Catchers	Bullpen Catchers	Head Trainer	Assistant Trainer	Mascot
=#0000FF]25 Ricky Bones DoB: 4/7/1969	=#0000FF]78 Eric Langill DoB: 4/9/1979	=#0000FF]79 Dave Racaniello DoB: 10/15/1981	=#BF8080].=#0000FF] Ray Ramirez =#BF8080].	=#BF8080].=#0000FF] Brian Chicklo =#BF8080].	=#BF8080].=#0000FF] Mr. Met =#BF8080]. .

[bmfc1]

Howie said that John Lannan, the latest SP to make the best look bad, will probably be non-tendered. He was sent down this April after starting the last two Opening Days for WSH, was pissed off about it, and is only in the rotation to replace Strasburg. Given that he's from Long Island so he might want to play close to home for a discount, even for a lousy team, do you think that the Mets might sign him to a one-year deal? That would allow them to trade Niese, cheap and signed, to get help elsewhere? Or do they think they have "enough" starting pitching?

[Ceetar]

bmfc1 wrote: Howie said that John Lannan, the latest SP to make the best look bad, will probably be non-tendered. He was sent down this April after starting the last two Opening Days for WSH, was pissed off about it, and is only in the rotation to replace Strasburg. Given that he's from Long Island so he might want to play close to home for a discount, even for a lousy team, do you think that the Mets might sign him to a one-year deal? That would allow them to trade Niese, cheap and signed, to get help elsewhere? Or do they think they have "enough" starting pitching?

I can't read any scenario where replacing Niese with Lannan makes the Mets even equally as good but cheaper. (and will he actually be cheaper? I can't see him getting much less than the $5 on the market.)

[bmfc1]

Even if Lannan makes the same salary, they could possibly get value from another team for Niese because he's under contract. A clever GM could do this... can Sandy?

[Ceetar]

bmfc1 wrote: Even if Lannan makes the same salary, they could possibly get value from another team for Niese because he's under contract. A clever GM could do this... can Sandy?

possibly . I don't see them getting a Gio Gonzalez cache though. Niese is much better than Lannan, and strikes guys out which would be nice of the defense doesn't get appreciably better. Hard to see getting good value to fix that, unless you're confident in the other guys staying healthy/stepping up. I'd rather roll with the SP as a strength.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I'm sure Lannan could wind up here but I wouldn't swap out Niese because of it.

If they want a big splash on the trade market they should offer up Harvey.

[Edgy MD]

I don't know, but Rob Carson just moved into the family photo last night.

New Number	Also on 40-Man Roster	Added To Projected Roster	Also on 40-Man Roster	Removed From Projected Roster
Starting Pitchers	Relief Pitchers
=#0000FF]27 =#FF8000]Jeurys Familia DoB: 10/10/1989	=#0000FF]36 =#FF8000]Collin McHugh DoB: 6/19/1987	=#0000FF]73 =#FF8000]Robert Carson DoB: 1/23/1989	=#0000FF]45 =#FF8000]Justin Hampson DoB: 1/23/1989	=#0000FF]19 Danny Herrera DoB: 10/21/1984
	Added To Projected Roster		Removed From Projected Roster
	Outfielders
	=#0000FF]21 =#FF8000]Lucas Duda DoB: 2/3/1986		=#0000FF]9 =#FF8000]Kirk Nieuwenhuis DoB: 8/7/1987

Your Projected Opening Day 2013 Mets (Orange Indicates Players Have Options)

Starting Pitchers
=#0000FF]43 R.A. Dickey DoB: 10/29/1974	=#0000FF]35 =#FF8000]Dillon Gee DoB: 4/28/1986	=#0000FF]33 =#FF8000]Matt Harvey DoB: 3/27/1989	=#0000FF]49 Jonathon Niese DoB: 10/27/1986	=#0000FF]57 Johan Santana DoB: 3/13/1979
Relief Pitchers
=#0000FF]46 Manny Acosta DoB: 5/1/1981	=#0000FF]73 =#FF8000]Robert Carson DoB: 1/23/1989	=#0000FF]66 =#FF8000]Josh Edgin DoB: 12/17/1986	=#0000FF]48 Frank Francisco DoB: 9/11/1979	=#0000FF]32 =#FF8000]Jennry Mejia DoB: 10/11/1989
Relief Pitchers		Catchers		Infielders
=#0000FF]39 Bobby Parnell DoB: 9/8/1984	=#0000FF]62 Elvin Ramirez DoB: 10/10/1962	=#0000FF]16 Rob Johnson DoB: 7/22/1982	=#0000FF]30 Josh Thole DoB: 4/28/1986	=#0000FF]29 =#FF8000]Ike Davis DoB: 3/22/1987
Infielders
=#0000FF]65 =#FF8000]Zach Lutz DoB: 6/3/1986	=#0000FF]28 Daniel Murphy DoB: 4/1/1985	=#0000FF]11 Ruben Tejada DoB: 10/27/1989	=#0000FF]2 Justin Turner DoB: 11/23/1984	=#0000FF]5 David Wright DoB: 12/20/1982
Outfielders
=#0000FF]23 =#FF8000]Mike Baxter DoB: 12/7/1984	=#0000FF]44 Jason Bay DoB: 9/20/1978	=#0000FF]21 =#FF8000]Lucas Duda DoB: 2/3/1986	=#0000FF]56 Andr�s Torres DoB:1/26/1978	=#0000FF]1 =#FF8000]Jordany Valdespin DoB: 12/23/1987

Also on 40-Man Roster

Starting Pitchers			Relief Pitchers	Catchers
=#0000FF]27 =#FF8000]Jeurys Familia DoB: 10/10/1989 =#008000]In New York	=#0000FF]53 =#FF8000]Jeremy Hefner DoB: 3/11/1981 =#008000]In New York	=#0000FF]36 =#FF8000]Collin McHugh DoB: 6/19/1987 =#008000]In New York	=#0000FF]45 =#FF8000]Justin Hampson DoB: 1/23/1989 =#008000]In New York	=#0000FF]4 Mike Nickeas DoB: 2/13/1983 =#008000]In Buffalo
Infielders		Outfielders
=#0000FF]71 =#FF8000]Wilmer Flores DoB: 8/6/1991 =#008000]In Binghamton	=#0000FF]74 =#FF8000]Reese Havens DoB: 10/20/1986 =#008000]In Binghamton	=#0000FF]76 =#FF8000]Juan Lagares DoB: 3/17/1989 =#008000]In Binghamton	=#0000FF]9 =#FF8000]Kirk Nieuwenhuis DoB: 8/7/1987 =#008000]In Buffalo	=#0000FF]67 =#FF8000]Cesar Puello DoB: 4/1/1991 =#008000]In St. Lucie

Potential Free Agents

Starting Pitchers		Relief Pitchers
=#0000FF]34 Mike Pelfrey DoB: 1/14/1984	=#0000FF]55 Chris Young DoB: 5/25/1979	=#0000FF]40 Tim Byrdak DoB: 10/37/1978	=#0000FF]52 Ram�n Ram�rez DoB:8/31/1981	=#0000FF]60 John Rauch DoB:9/27/1978
	Catchers	Infielders	Outfielders
	=#0000FF]6 Kelly Shoppach DoB: 4/29/1984	=#0000FF]13 Ronny Cede�o DoB: 2/2/1983	=#0000FF]12 Scott Hairston DoB: 5/25/1980

Coaching Staff

Manager	Bench Coach	Batting Coach	Pitching Coach	Third Base Coach	First Base Coach
=#0000FF]10 Terry Collins DoB: 5/27/1949	=#0000FF]7 Bob Geren DoB: 9/22/1959	=#0000FF]51 Dave Hudgens DoB: 12/5/1956	=#0000FF]59 Dan Warthan DoB: 12/1/1952	=#0000FF]18 Tim Teufel DoB: 7/7/1958	=#0000FF]26 Tom Goodwin DoB: 8/27/1968
Bullpen Coach	Bullpen Catchers	Bullpen Catchers	Head Trainer	Assistant Trainer	Mascot
=#0000FF]25 Ricky Bones DoB: 4/7/1969	=#0000FF]78 Eric Langill DoB: 4/9/1979	=#0000FF]79 Dave Racaniello DoB: 10/15/1981	=#BF8080].=#0000FF] Ray Ramirez =#BF8080].	=#BF8080].=#0000FF] Brian Chicklo =#BF8080].	=#BF8080].=#0000FF] Mr. Met =#BF8080].

[Benjamin Grimm]

You have a bunch of "2012" references that you probably want to change to 2013.

[Edgy MD]

Copy and paste is so limiting.

[Edgy MD]

Forgot about this guy:

Also on 40-Man Roster

Outfielders

=#0000FF]15 Fred Lewis DoB: 12/9/1980

Your Projected Opening Day 2013 Mets (Orange Indicates Players Have Options)

Starting Pitchers
=#0000FF]43 R.A. Dickey DoB: 10/29/1974	=#0000FF]35 =#FF8000]Dillon Gee DoB: 4/28/1986	=#0000FF]33 =#FF8000]Matt Harvey DoB: 3/27/1989	=#0000FF]49 Jonathon Niese DoB: 10/27/1986	=#0000FF]57 Johan Santana DoB: 3/13/1979
Relief Pitchers
=#0000FF]46 Manny Acosta DoB: 5/1/1981	=#0000FF]73 =#FF8000]Robert Carson DoB: 1/23/1989	=#0000FF]66 =#FF8000]Josh Edgin DoB: 12/17/1986	=#0000FF]48 Frank Francisco DoB: 9/11/1979	=#0000FF]32 =#FF8000]Jennry Mejia DoB: 10/11/1989
Relief Pitchers		Catchers		Infielders
=#0000FF]39 Bobby Parnell DoB: 9/8/1984	=#0000FF]62 Elvin Ramirez DoB: 10/10/1962	=#0000FF]16 Rob Johnson DoB: 7/22/1982	=#0000FF]30 Josh Thole DoB: 4/28/1986	=#0000FF]29 =#FF8000]Ike Davis DoB: 3/22/1987
Infielders
=#0000FF]65 =#FF8000]Zach Lutz DoB: 6/3/1986	=#0000FF]28 Daniel Murphy DoB: 4/1/1985	=#0000FF]11 Ruben Tejada DoB: 10/27/1989	=#0000FF]2 Justin Turner DoB: 11/23/1984	=#0000FF]5 David Wright DoB: 12/20/1982
Outfielders
=#0000FF]23 =#FF8000]Mike Baxter DoB: 12/7/1984	=#0000FF]44 Jason Bay DoB: 9/20/1978	=#0000FF]21 =#FF8000]Lucas Duda DoB: 2/3/1986	=#0000FF]56 Andr�s Torres DoB:1/26/1978	=#0000FF]1 =#FF8000]Jordany Valdespin DoB: 12/23/1987

Also on 40-Man Roster

Starting Pitchers			Relief Pitchers	Catchers
=#0000FF]27 =#FF8000]Jeurys Familia DoB: 10/10/1989 =#008000]In New York	=#0000FF]53 =#FF8000]Jeremy Hefner DoB: 3/11/1981 =#008000]In New York	=#0000FF]36 =#FF8000]Collin McHugh DoB: 6/19/1987 =#008000]In New York	=#0000FF]45 =#FF8000]Justin Hampson DoB: 1/23/1989 =#008000]In New York	=#0000FF]4 Mike Nickeas DoB: 2/13/1983 =#008000]In Buffalo
Infielders		Outfielders
=#0000FF]71 =#FF8000]Wilmer Flores DoB: 8/6/1991 =#008000]In Binghamton	=#0000FF]74 =#FF8000]Reese Havens DoB: 10/20/1986 =#008000]In Binghamton	=#0000FF]76 =#FF8000]Juan Lagares DoB: 3/17/1989 =#008000]In Binghamton	=#0000FF]15 Fred Lewis DoB: 12/9/1980 =#008000]In New York	=#0000FF]9 =#FF8000]Kirk Nieuwenhuis DoB: 8/7/1987 =#008000]In Buffalo
		Outfielders
		=#0000FF]67 =#FF8000]Cesar Puello DoB: 4/1/1991 =#008000]In St. Lucie

Potential Free Agents

Starting Pitchers		Relief Pitchers
=#0000FF]34 Mike Pelfrey DoB: 1/14/1984	=#0000FF]55 Chris Young DoB: 5/25/1979	=#0000FF]40 Tim Byrdak DoB: 10/37/1978	=#0000FF]52 Ram�n Ram�rez DoB:8/31/1981	=#0000FF]60 John Rauch DoB:9/27/1978
	Catchers	Infielders	Outfielders
	=#0000FF]6 Kelly Shoppach DoB: 4/29/1984	=#0000FF]13 Ronny Cede�o DoB: 2/2/1983	=#0000FF]12 Scott Hairston DoB: 5/25/1980

Coaching Staff

Manager	Bench Coach	Batting Coach	Pitching Coach	Third Base Coach	First Base Coach
=#0000FF]10 Terry Collins DoB: 5/27/1949	=#0000FF]7 Bob Geren DoB: 9/22/1959	=#0000FF]51 Dave Hudgens DoB: 12/5/1956	=#0000FF]59 Dan Warthan DoB: 12/1/1952	=#0000FF]18 Tim Teufel DoB: 7/7/1958	=#0000FF]26 Tom Goodwin DoB: 8/27/1968
Bullpen Coach	Bullpen Catchers	Bullpen Catchers	Head Trainer	Assistant Trainer	Mascot
=#0000FF]25 Ricky Bones DoB: 4/7/1969	=#0000FF]78 Eric Langill DoB: 4/9/1979	=#0000FF]79 Dave Racaniello DoB: 10/15/1981	=#BF8080].=#0000FF] Ray Ramirez =#BF8080].	=#BF8080].=#0000FF] Brian Chicklo =#BF8080].	=#BF8080].=#0000FF] Mr. Met =#BF8080].

[Edgy MD]

Mike F. Puma reports that he has an inside source saying there's "zero chance" Jason Bay will be cut this offseason or asked to fight for a roster spot come Spring.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I think he'll be cut some time around March 31.

[Edgy MD]

Yeah, anybody who would say something like "zero chance" is living in Silly Valley.

[Vic Sage]

is that near big rock candy mountain?

[Guest Mets � Willets Point]

Vic Sage wrote: is that near big rock candy mountain?

We could use some little streams of alky-hol a-tricklin' down the rocks around here.

[Edgy MD]

Terry Collins says the whole coaching staff will return.

Seems a little premature. Has Sandy Alderson yet said that Terry Collins will return? Has Jeff Wilpon yet said that Alderson will return?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Boo, Terry. At least fire Tim Tuefel.

We fans want blood.

[Frayed Knot]

Edgy DC wrote: Terry Collins says the whole coaching staff will return. Seems a little premature. Has Sandy Alderson yet said that Terry Collins will return? Has Jeff Wilpon yet said that Alderson will return?

Collins had his 2013 option picked up months ago.
And this was all, I'm sure, the outcome of the meeting they were all having either today or maybe over the weekend sometime.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

Jonah Keri of Grantland.com has a feeling that the Mets prospects for 2013 might be promising.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Here's his paragraph on the Mets:

The Mets could boast one of baseball's best rotations next year. R.A. Dickey might start the season as the defending Cy Young winner. Jon Niese is quietly becoming one of the most reliable lefty starters in the league. And Matt Harvey and Zack Wheeler offer top-of-the-rotation upside. The offense is much thinner, but the Swiss cheese outfield could get a lot better in a hurry, given the depth of the free-agent market at that position (Josh Hamilton, Michael Bourn, B.J. Upton, Nick Swisher, etc.). A bunch of things have to go right, but the Mets have a bit of a sleeper scent to them.

I agree about the pitching; it seems to have a high upside and could, if things go well, be real good real soon.

I hope (but don't expect) that the Mets will be willing to take a one-year spike in their payroll; knowing that there's going to be a big dropoff in 2014 when Santana and Bay drop off the books. If that happens, then maybe they can add a hitter or two who will make them a bit more respectable in the short term.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

Plus this one tucked at the bottom:

But if you're looking for that one, out-of-nowhere story, it just might be the Mets. You never know what the Wilpons' ongoing financial crisis might do to the team's finances, and David Wright, Johan Santana, and Jason Bay will make an ungodly amount of money, with only one of those players likely to produce a full year of above-average results. But 350 innings of Matt Harvey and Zack Wheeler could produce electric results, and the Mets' biggest weakness � its barren outfield � matches up perfectly with the free-agent market's biggest area of depth. Just an early hunch before we embark on our final, monthlong scramble until the crowning of this year's champions.

[batmagadanleadoff]

The latest Rubin:

� Relievers Jon Rauch and Ramon Ramirez and outfielder Andres Torres are expected to depart.

� No one on the roster is safe, with trades a major route to rebuilding the Mets after a fourth straight losing season.

� R.A. Dickey's future with the organization is not entirely secure, a team source acknowledged.

excerpt:

Despite knuckleballers often successfully pitching into their 40s, Mets officials appear wary of making a sizable commitment. That could lead Dickey to being traded this offseason if the right deal presented itself, since the Mets would have some starting-pitching depth to absorb his departure. Trading a 20-game winner (and perhaps the reigning Cy Young winner) would not be a popular move among the fan base and could further erode attendance in 2013.

Read the rest at
http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/8453007/new-york-mets-want-david-wright-become-next-face-franchise-source-says

[Edgy MD]

Jordany scheduled to play second base in winter ball, rather than outfield.

Considering our desperate need for major-league ready outfield talent, I think he looks like a good trade prospect.

[Edgy MD]

Good news is that the team has room to add seven guys to the roster.

More challenging news is that, well, Thole remains at number one on the catcher depth chart, and Nickeas returns to number two.

I haven't listed him here, but the Mets also announced that strength and conditioning coach Brad Andress (an early Sandy addition) will not return.

Activated From Disabled List	Removed From Roster, Becoming Free Agent		Added To Projected Roster	Removed From Roster, Becoming Free Agent
Starting Pitchers	Relief Pitchers	Catchers		Outfielders
=#0000FF]57 Johan Santana DoB: 3/13/1979	=#0000FF]45 =#FF8000]Justin Hampson DoB: 1/23/1989	=#0000FF]16 Rob Johnson DoB: 7/22/1982	=#0000FF]4 Mike Nickeas DoB: 2/13/1983	=#0000FF]15 Fred Lewis DoB: 12/9/1980

Your Projected Opening Day 2013 Mets (Orange Indicates Players Have Options)

Starting Pitchers
=#0000FF]43 R.A. Dickey DoB: 10/29/1974	=#0000FF]35 =#FF8000]Dillon Gee DoB: 4/28/1986	=#0000FF]33 =#FF8000]Matt Harvey DoB: 3/27/1989	=#0000FF]49 Jonathon Niese DoB: 10/27/1986	=#0000FF]57 Johan Santana DoB: 3/13/1979
Relief Pitchers
=#0000FF]46 Manny Acosta DoB: 5/1/1981	=#0000FF]73 =#FF8000]Robert Carson DoB: 1/23/1989	=#0000FF]66 =#FF8000]Josh Edgin DoB: 12/17/1986	=#0000FF]48 Frank Francisco DoB: 9/11/1979	=#0000FF]32 =#FF8000]Jennry Mejia DoB: 10/11/1989
Relief Pitchers		Catchers		Infielders
=#0000FF]39 Bobby Parnell DoB: 9/8/1984	=#0000FF]62 Elvin Ramirez DoB: 10/10/1987	=#0000FF]4 Mike Nickeas DoB: 2/13/1983	=#0000FF]30 Josh Thole DoB: 4/28/1986	=#0000FF]29 =#FF8000]Ike Davis DoB: 3/22/1987
Infielders
=#0000FF]65 =#FF8000]Zach Lutz DoB: 6/3/1986	=#0000FF]28 Daniel Murphy DoB: 4/1/1985	=#0000FF]11 Ruben Tejada DoB: 10/27/1989	=#0000FF]2 Justin Turner DoB: 11/23/1984	=#0000FF]5 David Wright DoB: 12/20/1982
Outfielders
=#0000FF]23 =#FF8000]Mike Baxter DoB: 12/7/1984	=#0000FF]44 Jason Bay DoB: 9/20/1978	=#0000FF]21 =#FF8000]Lucas Duda DoB: 2/3/1986	=#0000FF]56 Andr�s Torres DoB:1/26/1978	=#0000FF]1 =#FF8000]Jordany Valdespin DoB: 12/23/1987

Also on 40-Man Roster

Starting Pitchers			Infielders
=#0000FF]27 =#FF8000]Jeurys Familia DoB: 10/10/1989	=#0000FF]53 =#FF8000]Jeremy Hefner DoB: 3/11/1981	=#0000FF]36 =#FF8000]Collin McHugh DoB: 6/19/1987	=#0000FF]71 =#FF8000]Wilmer Flores DoB: 8/6/1991	=#0000FF]74 =#FF8000]Reese Havens DoB: 10/20/1986
	Outfielders
	=#0000FF]76 =#FF8000]Juan Lagares DoB: 3/17/1989	=#0000FF]9 =#FF8000]Kirk Nieuwenhuis DoB: 8/7/1987	=#0000FF]67 =#FF8000]Cesar Puello DoB: 4/1/1991

Potential Free Agents
]

Starting Pitchers		Relief Pitchers
=#0000FF]34 Mike Pelfrey DoB: 1/14/1984	=#0000FF]55 Chris Young DoB: 5/25/1979	=#0000FF]40 Tim Byrdak DoB: 10/37/1978	=#0000FF]45 =#FF8000]Justin Hampson DoB: 1/23/1989	=#0000FF]52 Ram�n Ram�rez DoB:8/31/1981
Relief Pitchers	Catchers		Infielders	Outfielders
=#0000FF]60 John Rauch DoB:9/27/1978	=#0000FF]16 Rob Johnson DoB: 7/22/1982	=#0000FF]6 Kelly Shoppach DoB: 4/29/1984	=#0000FF]13 Ronny Cede�o DoB: 2/2/1983	=#0000FF]12 Scott Hairston DoB: 5/25/1980
		Outfielders
		=#0000FF]15 Fred Lewis DoB: 12/9/1980

Coaching Staff

Manager	Bench Coach	Batting Coach	Pitching Coach	Third Base Coach	First Base Coach
=#0000FF]10 Terry Collins DoB: 5/27/1949	=#0000FF]7 Bob Geren DoB: 9/22/1959	=#0000FF]51 Dave Hudgens DoB: 12/5/1956	=#0000FF]59 Dan Warthan DoB: 12/1/1952	=#0000FF]18 Tim Teufel DoB: 7/7/1958	=#0000FF]26 Tom Goodwin DoB: 8/27/1968
Bullpen Coach	Bullpen Catchers	Bullpen Catchers	Head Trainer	Assistant Trainer	Mascot
=#0000FF]25 Ricky Bones DoB: 4/7/1969	=#0000FF]78 Eric Langill DoB: 4/9/1979	=#0000FF]79 Dave Racaniello DoB: 10/15/1981	=#BF8080].=#0000FF] Ray Ramirez =#BF8080].	=#BF8080].=#0000FF] Brian Chicklo =#BF8080].	=#BF8080].=#0000FF] Mr. Met =#BF8080].

[MFS62]

Elvin Ramirez was born in 1962?
Looked strange, so I checked.
10/10/87 as per Baseball-register.

Later

[Edgy MD]

Removed From Projected Roster	Claimed Off Waivers From Chicago (N)
Catchers
=#0000FF]4 Mike Nickeas DoB: 8/29/1983	=#FF8000]20 =#0000FF]Anthony Recker DoB: 2/13/1983

Your Projected Opening Day 2013 Mets (Orange Indicates Players Have Options)

Starting Pitchers
=#0000FF]43 R.A. Dickey DoB: 10/29/1974	=#0000FF]35 =#FF8000]Dillon Gee DoB: 4/28/1986	=#0000FF]33 =#FF8000]Matt Harvey DoB: 3/27/1989	=#0000FF]49 Jonathon Niese DoB: 10/27/1986	=#0000FF]57 Johan Santana DoB: 3/13/1979
Relief Pitchers
=#0000FF]46 Manny Acosta DoB: 5/1/1981	=#0000FF]73 =#FF8000]Robert Carson DoB: 1/23/1989	=#0000FF]66 =#FF8000]Josh Edgin DoB: 12/17/1986	=#0000FF]48 Frank Francisco DoB: 9/11/1979	=#0000FF]32 =#FF8000]Jenrry Mejia DoB: 10/11/1989
Relief Pitchers		Catchers		Infielders
=#0000FF]39 Bobby Parnell DoB: 9/8/1984	=#0000FF]62 Elvin Ramirez DoB: 10/10/1987	=#FF8000]20 =#0000FF]Anthony Recker DoB: 2/13/1983	=#0000FF]30 Josh Thole DoB: 4/28/1986	=#0000FF]29 =#FF8000]Ike Davis DoB: 3/22/1987
Infielders
=#0000FF]65 =#FF8000]Zach Lutz DoB: 6/3/1986	=#0000FF]28 Daniel Murphy DoB: 4/1/1985	=#0000FF]11 Ruben Tejada DoB: 10/27/1989	=#0000FF]2 Justin Turner DoB: 11/23/1984	=#0000FF]5 David Wright DoB: 12/20/1982
Outfielders
=#0000FF]23 =#FF8000]Mike Baxter DoB: 12/7/1984	=#0000FF]44 Jason Bay DoB: 9/20/1978	=#0000FF]21 =#FF8000]Lucas Duda DoB: 2/3/1986	=#0000FF]56 Andr�s Torres DoB:1/26/1978	=#0000FF]1 =#FF8000]Jordany Valdespin DoB: 12/23/1987

Also on 40-Man Roster

Starting Pitchers			Catchers	Infielders
=#0000FF]27 =#FF8000]Jeurys Familia DoB: 10/10/1989	=#0000FF]53 =#FF8000]Jeremy Hefner DoB: 3/11/1981	=#0000FF]36 =#FF8000]Collin McHugh DoB: 6/19/1987	=#0000FF]4 Mike Nickeas DoB: 2/13/1983	=#0000FF]71 =#FF8000]Wilmer Flores DoB: 8/6/1991
Infielders	Outfielders
=#0000FF]74 =#FF8000]Reese Havens DoB: 10/20/1986	=#0000FF]76 =#FF8000]Juan Lagares DoB: 3/17/1989		=#0000FF]9 =#FF8000]Kirk Nieuwenhuis DoB: 8/7/1987	=#0000FF]67 =#FF8000]Cesar Puello DoB: 4/1/1991

Potential Free Agents

Starting Pitchers		Relief Pitchers
=#0000FF]34 Mike Pelfrey DoB: 1/14/1984	=#0000FF]55 Chris Young DoB: 5/25/1979	=#0000FF]40 Tim Byrdak DoB: 10/37/1978	=#0000FF]45 =#FF8000]Justin Hampson DoB: 1/23/1989	=#0000FF]52 Ram�n Ram�rez DoB:8/31/1981
Relief Pitchers	Catchers		Infielders	Outfielders
=#0000FF]60 John Rauch DoB:9/27/1978	=#0000FF]16 Rob Johnson DoB: 7/22/1982	=#0000FF]6 Kelly Shoppach DoB: 4/29/1984	=#0000FF]13 Ronny Cede�o DoB: 2/2/1983	=#0000FF]12 Scott Hairston DoB: 5/25/1980
		Outfielders
		=#0000FF]15 Fred Lewis DoB: 12/9/1980

Coaching Staff

Manager	Bench Coach	Batting Coach	Pitching Coach	Third Base Coach	First Base Coach
=#0000FF]10 Terry Collins DoB: 5/27/1949	=#0000FF]7 Bob Geren DoB: 9/22/1959	=#0000FF]51 Dave Hudgens DoB: 12/5/1956	=#0000FF]59 Dan Warthan DoB: 12/1/1952	=#0000FF]18 Tim Teufel DoB: 7/7/1958	=#0000FF]26 Tom Goodwin DoB: 8/27/1968
Bullpen Coach	Bullpen Catchers	Bullpen Catchers	Head Trainer	Assistant Trainer	Mascot
=#0000FF]25 Ricky Bones DoB: 4/7/1969	=#0000FF]78 Eric Langill DoB: 4/9/1979	=#0000FF]79 Dave Racaniello DoB: 10/15/1981	=#BF8080].=#0000FF] Ray Ramirez =#BF8080].	=#BF8080].=#0000FF] Brian Chicklo =#BF8080].	=#BF8080].=#0000FF] Mr. Met =#BF8080].