Trade Deadline Non-NYM Edition

[Frayed Knot]

Wandy Rodriguez to the Pirates

You'd think Pitt needs hitting more than pitching but everybody's going for hurlers right now.

[Ceetar]

Frayed Knot wrote: Wandy Rodriguez to the Pirates You'd think Pitt needs hitting more than pitching but everybody's going for hurlers right now.

McCutchen counts for two hitters these days.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Go Buccos, I don't think this will jinx them but they look very likely to finish over .500 this year.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

The Dodgers will announce on Wednesday the acquisition of infielder Hanley Ramirez and left-handed reliever Randy Choate from the Miami Marlins for starting pitcher Nathan Eovaldi and Minor League pitcher Scott McGough, according to a baseball source.

Wow.

[bmfc1]

Not traded: Cole Hamels signs a 6 year deal to stay with the MFPs.

Edited July 25, 2012 by Guest

[Ceetar]

bmfc1 wrote: Not trade: Cole Hamels signs a 6 year deal to stay with the MFPs.

The Philliies now have 66million invested in three pitchers for the next two years.

[metirish]

Wow, the Marlins dismantling already , what a joke franchise they are .

[Frayed Knot]

While many media types in the pre-season were touting the Marlins based on their new park-induced spending spree, I remained on the wary side of the fence being skeptical of the team trying to spend their way not merely to get from good to over-the-top but in an attempt to leap directly from the bottom up to contending status. It rarely works and I didn't think it would this time either.

So while I'm not going to claim that I saw this specific action coming, I'm not all that surprised except maybe at the speed in which it happened. You rarely see a team change course so quickly, going from big FA spending spurts to fire sale status in barely half a year.

[metirish]

And for whatever reason fans are not showing up to a brand new stadium. Did they get good pieces for Ramirez?


I guess I am wondering if they shopped around and if they could have gotten more, hefty salary though.

[seawolf17]

Eovaldi's not a bad pitcher, but he's not an ace either.

I'm intrigued by what the Astros are doing; they're dumping everyone and just stockpiling young players. Carlos Lee, Wandy, Lyon, Happ, Myers all gone, and about a dozen new minor leaguers in.

[Edgy MD]

Just amazin' to commit overwhelmingly to Reyes and not Hanley. The Flushing grass musta looked mighty green from Florida. Or they have strong suspicions that Hanley will never be the MVP candidate (indeed, winner) they once had.

Choate, though... who can really commit to Choate? He's the sort of guy that when a GM says, "The deal still feels a little light from your end --- can you throw in Choate?" and the other GM goes, "Oh, do we still have that guy?"

He just floats out there, grows a goofy beard thing, and still nobody really thinks, "Oh, that guy is ours." He's like the Aaron Sele of LOOGys.

[Ceetar]

seawolf17 wrote: Eovaldi's not a bad pitcher, but he's not an ace either. I'm intrigued by what the Astros are doing; they're dumping everyone and just stockpiling young players. Carlos Lee, Wandy, Lyon, Happ, Myers all gone, and about a dozen new minor leaguers in.

And they're taking all those players to the junior circuit. wheeeee

[Frayed Knot]

metirish wrote: And for whatever reason fans are not showing up to a brand new stadium.

Hope the city didn't stick one of those clauses in where they'd guarantee to make-up any short-fall in anticipated revenue if the projected attendance boost didn't materialize. Hell, they gave them everything else.

Did they get good pieces for Ramirez?

Doesn't seem like much, does it, for a guy with that talent under control for 2-1/2 more seasons?
Guess he gets to move back to SS now.

I guess I am wondering if they shopped around and if they could have gotten more, hefty salary though.

I know Boston was at least kicking the tires - which would be interesting because that's where he originally came from. Those rumors involved a whole expansive thing that, if true, made it a whole lot less likely to happen. Stuff like Bell & Hanley going in exchange for Crawford and someone else.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Edgy DC wrote: Choate, though... who can really commit to Choate? He's the sort of guy that when a GM says, "The deal still feels a little light from your end --- can you throw in Choate?" and the other GM goes, "Oh, do we still have that guy?" He just floats out there, grows a goofy beard thing, and still nobody really thinks, "Oh, that guy is ours." He's like the Aaron Sele of LOOGys.

Well, yeah... only, onfield-performance-wise, he's more like the Pedro or Randy Johnson of LOOGYs. He's like Byrdak against sinister batters, only better and cheaper.

Houston's sale/reload in preparation for the AL West move is exactly what they need now.

[Edgy MD]

Ha! You li-ike Cho-oate! You li-ike Cho-oate!

Why don't you marry him?!

[metirish]

If Boston could have pulled that kind of deal off it would have been a stunner. Loria better not say this wasn't a salary dump.....LA Times

The Dodgers will be paying all of what remains on Ramirez's contract. Ramirez, 28, is still owed about $6 million of his $15-million salary this year. He will earn $15.5 million next year and $16 million in 2014, the final year of his contract.

[seawolf17]

I have a baseball game on my phone, and Choate is the one pitcher in the whole game I can't hit. He's (as far as I know) the only sidewinding lefty in the game, and his pitches just move so much that I can't get a handle on them. So I picture him to be vastly more unhittable than he really is.

[metirish]

That settles it, if Seawolf , one of phone games great hitters can't hit Choate then he must be brilliant.

[seawolf17]

metirish wrote: That settles it, if Seawolf , one of phone games great hitters can't hit Choate then he must be brilliant.

Pretty much, yes.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

metirish wrote: If Boston could have pulled that kind of deal off it would have been a stunner. Loria better not say this wasn't a salary dump.....

"Really, it's more of an action-painting-- like drip, but UNlike dripwork at the same time, if you follow-- inspired by the likes of Picabia, or Pollock. Just with more breast implants... and it actually loses value over time. But if you can't see the value in that, well... thanks for the cash all the same. Or, if you'd prefer, 'Buenos gracias.'"

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Wait, Carlos Lee is on the Marlins? How did that happen?

[Guest Mets � Willets Point]

Frayed Knot wrote: Wandy Rodriguez to the Pirates You'd think Pitt needs hitting more than pitching but everybody's going for hurlers right now.

I passed a tv this morning showing ESPN with Alex Rodriguez on the screen and the ticker saying "Rodriguez to the Pirates" and was momentarily confused.

[ashie62]

metirish wrote: Wow, the Marlins dismantling already , what a joke franchise they are .

Speaking of joke franchises this season.

Josh Johnson is still available..

[smg58]

I had a feeling, given the way that they offered more money instead of no-trade clauses to their incoming free agents, that the Marlins would start dealing if they weren't contending. There are seven or eight obvious reasons why they haven't been a big draw, the first six or seven of which have to do with the economy, but Marlins fans (such as they are) had every right to be skeptical of Loria's intentions.

As for Hanley, it's not a secret he's been underachieving lately, and there are defensible baseball reasons for deciding he's not worth his contract and passing him off to anybody who'd pay him in full. On the other hand, a mediocre Hanley still upgrades the Dodgers' infield. And it's not unreasonable to hope he's a change of scenery away from returning to form.

[ashie62]

It would be funny if they dumped Reyes...

[nymr83]

I saw a stat that, at -12 runs below average, Hanley is the 2nd worst defensive "contributor" in the league this year. His bat may no longer be justifying his glove and the fish may be happy just to get rid of the contract

[Edgy MD]

Sure, it's just funny how quickly policy changes. Is he giving you value on the dollar? Well, as much as Reyes, more or less, and a whole lot more than Heath Bell.

[Frayed Knot]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Wait, Carlos Lee is on the Marlins? How did that happen?

That's the nutty thing about what they're doing here.
Four months ago they were adding FAs seemingly every week.
Two months ago they were dealing away prospects to get established veterans.
And now they're dumping established players in an attempt to get younger and cheaper.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Does Reyes have a no-trade? Or should he have his bags packed, just in case?

[TransMonk]

Reyes' contract DOES NOT include no-trade protection.