IGT 7-23-2012 Time to ruthlessly prick Nats gonfalon bubble

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Bring up Harvey. Bring up McHugh. Bring up Wheeler. 'Cause Lord knows this team isn't playing for a playoff spot.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Well fuck if Jason Bay didn't suck we'd never play this goddamn inning. I really think he needs to be hate-released.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Just awful.

Starting think some of this is on Sandy. Other teams are trading for relievers. We knew this pen was horrible. It makes no sense to fall out of contention THEN make a deal. He should have brought someone in when they still had a chance.

[Frayed Knot]

Losint back to back extra inning games by a combined 25 runs is a tough thing to do.
Not for this team though.


And special credit needs to be given to the middle of the order who, when presented with a chance to win the game outright without having ANY reliever throw a pitch, failed once again to get a ball to leave the infield.

[Methead]

Good lord.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

Five-plus runs in a single extra inning in back-to-back games. That must not have happened to many times before.

[Frayed Knot]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Just awful. Starting think some of this is on Sandy. Other teams are trading for relievers. We knew this pen was horrible. It makes no sense to fall out of contention THEN make a deal. He should have brought someone in when they still had a chance.

Realistically, what are you willing to give up for "good" relievers in mid-season when who the hell knows if the guy who was good last month will be good next month too?

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Just awful. Starting think some of this is on Sandy. Other teams are trading for relievers. We knew this pen was horrible. It makes no sense to fall out of contention THEN make a deal. He should have brought someone in when they still had a chance.

With all due respect, MGiM, the bullpen's failures aren't the reason for this slump; they're A reason. I'm not sure what one or two relievers would have done to help this team execute better defensively or offensively.

Also... we're NOT going to plunk Bernardina for the shitty slide? That fucking figures.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

We should be addressing other team's bullpens, moving Rauch, Byrdak and Francisco out before its too late.

[Frayed Knot]

The other problem is figuring out who's a good reliever.
Y'know who were reasonably good relievers last year? Pedro Beato, Ramon Ramirez, Frank Francisco, and Manny Acosta

[batmagadanleadoff]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: When the bottom of this season drops out and the Mets finish 15 games behind the second wild card, you can all point to Bay's return to the lineup as the tipping point for the Mets freefall.

I don't wanna say I told ya so.

But on 6/9, I told ya so.


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[ashie62]

Fire Alderson

70-92

Fuck

[bmfc1]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Just awful. Starting think some of this is on Sandy. Other teams are trading for relievers. We knew this pen was horrible. It makes no sense to fall out of contention THEN make a deal. He should have brought someone in when they still had a chance.

QFT. Outstanding, MGIM. Sandy was quiet when he should have done something and now it's too late.

Edited July 23, 2012 by Guest

[bmfc1]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: We should be addressing other team's bullpens, moving Rauch, Byrdak and Francisco out before its too late.

My guess is that Sandy spent on relievers because they are easier to move at the deadline and then he could trade them for younger players and replenish the farm system. That would have been a good idea of the bullpen was any good but it sucks and now the Mets are stuck with those guys.

[ashie62]

bmfc1 wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: We should be addressing other team's bullpens, moving Rauch, Byrdak and Francisco out before its too late. My guess is that Sandy spent on relievers because they are easier to move at the deadline and then he could trade them for younger players and replenish the farm system. That would have been a good idea of the bullpen was any good but it sucks and now the Mets are stuck with those guys.

Alderson should be quartered.

[Guest Kong76]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: When the bottom of this season drops out and the Mets finish 15 games behind the second wild card, you can all point to Bay's return to the lineup as the tipping point for the Mets freefall. I don't wanna say I told ya so. But on 6/9, I told ya so. viewtopic.php?f=14&t=18031&p=476031#p476031

You da man, woo hoo. Go you!!!!
You keep a diary of when you set us all straight?
Really? 6/9? Scary.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Kong76 wrote: When the bottom of this season drops out and the Mets finish 15 games behind the second wild card, you can all point to Bay's return to the lineup as the tipping point for the Mets freefall. I don't wanna say I told ya so. But on 6/9, I told ya so. viewtopic.php?f=14&t=18031&p=476031#p476031 You da man, woo hoo. Go you!!!! You keep a diary of when you set us all straight? Really? 6/9? Scary.

Go fuck yourself, jackass.

[Guest Kong76]

Ok, looking forward to the 6/10 update tomorrow.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Kong76 wrote: Ok, looking forward to the 6/10 update tomorrow.

I'll give you tomorrow's update right now: go fuck yourself again, jackass.

[Guest Kong76]

You're funny, I'd ask about 6/11 but you are very hostile.

[bmfc1]

Beato down, not Duda as Klapisch tweeted during the game.

[Ceetar]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I recommend covering your eyes and drinking heavily during the scary parts.

They stopped serving beer after the 7th.

[Edgy MD]

Not ruthless enough.

I'm talking to you, Jason Bay.

[Ceetar]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: metsguyinmichigan wrote: Just awful. Starting think some of this is on Sandy. Other teams are trading for relievers. We knew this pen was horrible. It makes no sense to fall out of contention THEN make a deal. He should have brought someone in when they still had a chance. With all due respect, MGiM, the bullpen's failures aren't the reason for this slump; they're A reason. I'm not sure what one or two relievers would have done to help this team execute better defensively or offensively. Also... we're NOT going to plunk Bernardina for the shitty slide? That fucking figures.

bullpen has been somewhat 'okay' for most of the last two months, it's been the offense and defense. And you can't even clearly say its' the "bad guys" doing it, because Tejada's poor play today was a big contributor defensively. Duda has had 2 xbhs in a month. Ike was nonexistent early. Kirk and Jordany think pitches thrown in Yankee Stadium are in the strike zone. Jordany swung at a _wild pitch_ today. Murphy disappeared for a month as well, as did Thole. You can live with a guy slumping here and there, but not when multiple guys do it and they slump so hard, not even getting cheap dribbler hits or walks.

[Edgy MD]

Left, center, and right should be in a pretty straight platoon at this point. Need to find a catcher to take the lefties also. I'm still open to bringing up the Pascucci to play some first against lefties. Almost everybody should feel on notice right now.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: Left, center, and right should be in a pretty straight platoon at this point. Need to find a catcher to take the lefties also. I'm still open to bringing up the Pascucci to play some first against lefties. Almost everybody should feel on notice right now.

might be too late. I don't even know if the platoon thing is gonna work. Duda's not hitting anyone. Kirk's not hitting anyone. Torres is doing okay. Bay's not hitting anything. Hairston's doing good but does have some pretty bad AB sometimes and is very feast and famine. Valdespin too. Even shoving Jason Bay into that mess doesn't seem to..make an outfield.

Thole's platoon split isn't that bad, except he doesn't walk against lefties. He's got a 800+ OPS both in the last 7, and last 14 days. (But yes, Nickeas is worthless and is inevitably going to get AB because it's catcher and the backups get playing time)

[Edgy MD]

Too late or not, it's not too late for tomorrow's game, or the next one.

I don't know if it's going to work, either. Certainty of one's fate is an illusion.

[Ceetar]

Toss out some 'thoughts from the game'.

Star Wars night was a let down compared to last year.

The Big Apple Seats are kinda neat. I was on the end seat next to the apple in the 7th row. Jason Bay's loud fly out was about 20 feet directly in front of me.

During the second Jason Bay at-bat, they very clearly raised the volume of his walk-up music as the fans started booing.

I bought some baby Mets stuff for a baby shower in two weeks. A bib, a onesie, and a bear. (Mets fan and Angels fan) the kid will be living in Philly.

The nice usher let us sit (we moved to stand in fair territory, by the right field pole) when most people left after the 9th.

I heard too many "When do the Giants kick off?" comments.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Why do they do Star Wars night anyway?

When is it going to be F-Troop night?

[Ceetar]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Why do they do Star Wars night anyway? When is it going to be F-Troop night?

Star Wars teams up with Stand up to Cancer. They've been doing it at a bunch of other parks/places too. My ticket was also a $5 donation. I got a t-shirt with Vader on it that says "Don't underestimate the power of SU2C". Costume contest for kids before hand, winner gets a trip to Orlando.