Davis-Duda: This Time It's Personal

[Edgy MD]

I keepy Ikey too, but I'm a keeper. What do you like on the Sox that might lead you to change your thinking?

[Edgy MD]

Curiously, two Red Sox scouts -- maybe the only two scouts in attendance -- were at the Mets-Marlins game Monday night, and it's known the Red Sox seek help in the outfield, the rotation and at first base. The Mets don't have any outfielders to trade, not [sic] do they have an abundance of starting pitchers. Davis could be an obvious potential fit.

Or, the writer may just be seeing what he wanted to see. The scouts may have been there to see Duda, or they may be looking at Familia.

What's interesting is that the Shoppach-Beato deal may make these two beseiged franchises happy trading partners.

[Ceetar]

The Mets don't have any outfielders to trade..except Torres, Bay, Duda, Baxter, Valdespin* etc..

[Gwreck]

Yes, they should have specified that the Mets don't have any "outfielders that would start on .500 or better teams"

[batmagadanleadoff]

I've seen Lucas Duda. He's no outfielder.

[Ceetar]

Gwreck wrote: Yes, they should have specified that the Mets don't have any "outfielders that would start on .500 or better teams"

The Red Sox aren't that, now are they?

It's also not true. All those guys could easily have a role of some sort on a good team, depending on what they do next year. Figuring out what they're going to do next year is the tough part, but that's why you send scouts to a Mets-Marlins game in September.

[Edgy MD]

Well, I'd say that just because they aren't envisioned as starters doesn't mean they aren't worth scouting. Presumably teams have a lot of personnel available in southern Florida anybutts.

[Gwreck]

Ceetar wrote: It's also not true.

Sure. Jason Bay and Andres Torres are bound to have break-out seasons again.

[Ceetar]

Gwreck wrote: Ceetar wrote: It's also not true. Sure. Jason Bay and Andres Torres are bound to have break-out seasons again.

Would be one of the least surprising things. This happens ALL THE TIME.

and regardless, even if they're not starters, doesn't mean they can't be helpful.

[RealityChuck]

I can't see the slightest sense in trading Davis. There is a weird mindset that once you develop a major league talent, the smart thing is to trade him away for prospects (who might never make it) on the odd chance that one of them might be better. This is Steve Philips-type thinking -- any trade is better than nothing. But it can't possibly improve the team if you keep trading away your best players and have to wait a few years before the trade sees results, if at all. And then, once you do develop one of those players, you trade him away for more prospects and the circle of baseball mediocrity goes on.

[DocTee]

I suspect papers in Miami are speculating that Sox scouts were in attendance at last night's game, eyeing Jose Reyes, Carlos Lee and possibily Ozzie Guillen.

That said, I'd be really disappointed if the Mets dealt Davis this offseason.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

RealityChuck wrote: I can't see the slightest sense in trading Davis. There is a weird mindset that once you develop a major league talent, the smart thing is to trade him away for prospects (who might never make it) on the odd chance that one of them might be better. This is Steve Philips-type thinking -- any trade is better than nothing. But it can't possibly improve the team if you keep trading away your best players and have to wait a few years before the trade sees results, if at all. And then, once you do develop one of those players, you trade him away for more prospects and the circle of baseball mediocrity goes on.

I don't think Davis would go for a young player who might be better; he'd go for a comparable player who plays a different position, and that's if he goes at all.

[Ceetar]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: RealityChuck wrote: I can't see the slightest sense in trading Davis. There is a weird mindset that once you develop a major league talent, the smart thing is to trade him away for prospects (who might never make it) on the odd chance that one of them might be better. This is Steve Philips-type thinking -- any trade is better than nothing. But it can't possibly improve the team if you keep trading away your best players and have to wait a few years before the trade sees results, if at all. And then, once you do develop one of those players, you trade him away for more prospects and the circle of baseball mediocrity goes on. I don't think Davis would go for a young player who might be better; he'd go for a comparable player who plays a different position, and that's if he goes at all.

straight up for Justin Upton?

[Edgy MD]

Trade for Justin and sign B.J., hmmm?

[metsmarathon]

Ceetar wrote: straight up for Justin Upton?

i'm thinking arizona might just want to keep that paul goldschmidt kid at first for a while, see how that pans out. unless they really would envision either of them for the outfield.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Ike Davis finishes in tie with Miami's Giancarlo Stanton for most NL road HR's (21), second in majors only to Adam Dunn (23).