Guest Mets � Willets Point Guests Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 BREAKING: From the Mets on TwitterMedical Update on Dillon Gee: The arterial blood clot in Dillon Gee�s right shoulder has resolved and Dillon will be discharged from New York-Presbyterian Hospital today. During the next several days, Dillon will consider additional treatment options, including possible surgery, to prevent a recurrence of clotting in the same location. Mets made a move: With Gee on the DL, LHP Josh Edgin will join the team on Friday�Edgin was 3-2 with a 3.89 ERA in 35 games for Buffalo this seasonSo I guess Josh edges in on Gee's spot.
Fman99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 The latest is now Gee most likely being out for a few months, very possibly the rest of '12, after scheduled shoulder surgery Friday.
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 Fman99 wrote:The latest is now Gee most likely being out for a few months, very possibly the rest of '12, after scheduled shoulder surgery Friday.Gah!
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 I said that yesterday..Now go get someone Sandscrit.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 They don't need to go hunting. The answers are in the system.Really, every year you can expect 20% of the pitchers to go down with elbow woes and need Tommy John surgery, and 20% more to have some other catastrophic injury that costs them at least half the year and threatens their careers. If you're not ready for that, it's your own fault. Every second is a forking path.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 Edgy DC wrote:They don't need to go hunting. The answers are in the system.Really, every year you can expect 20% of the pitchers to go down with elbow woes and need Tommy John surgery, and 20% more to have some other catastrophic injury that costs them at least half the year and threatens their careers. If you're not ready for that, it's your own fault. Every second is a forking path.Hunting is just fine also...
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 I don't think so. My fundamentally ethical objections to trading aside, giving up talent is always a perilous business that places more faith in a rushed late judgement than the deliberate, focused, and strategic judgement that had been governing the organization up to that point.
Guest Swan Swan H Guests Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 Surgery is confirmed for tomorrow, per the Mets official Twitter account. Dr. Robert Thompson, who probably did not play second base for the Giants, will be on lead scalpel.
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 Swan Swan H wrote:Surgery is confirmed for tomorrow, per the Mets official Twitter account. Dr. Robert Thompson, who probably did not play second base for the Giants, will be on lead scalpel.Obviously not, or Giants fans would've voted him to start on Tuesday.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 Edgy DC wrote:I don't think so. My fundamentally ethical objections to trading aside, giving up talent is always a perilous business that places more faith in a rushed late judgement than the deliberate, focused, and strategic judgement that had been governing the organization up to that point.But wouldn't the Mets' trading partner also incur the same risks inherent in this "perilous business" of trading? And if each trader risks the same peril, then doesn't each trader, just the same, chance the same reward? Doesn't it all balance out, all things being equal? Or are you saying that the Mets aren't as good at trading as their competitors?Because if the Mets can't be trusted to make a trade, why should we credit their evaluation of their prospects?
Guest metsguyinmichigan Guests Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 Other than the short-lived bullpen thing, hasn't Mejia been a starter this year?
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 metsguyinmichigan wrote:Other than the short-lived bullpen thing, hasn't Mejia been a starter this year?Was switched to the pen a month or so ago.
Guest metsguyinmichigan Guests Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 Frayed Knot wrote:metsguyinmichigan wrote:Other than the short-lived bullpen thing, hasn't Mejia been a starter this year?Was switched to the pen a month or so ago.Can he switch back?
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 batmagadanleadoff wrote:But wouldn't the Mets' trading partner also incur the same risks inherent in this "perilous business" of trading? And if each trader risks the same peril, then doesn't each trader, just the same, chance the same reward? Doesn't it all balance out, all things being equal? Or are you saying that the Mets aren't as good at trading as their competitors?Sure, which leaves it as a random and volatile hit-or-miss prospect. We can do better. We must.batmagadanleadoff wrote:Because if the Mets can't be trusted to make a trade, why should we credit their evaluation of their prospects?Well, historically, they've been just about the worst trading team ever, but it's not a question of trusting the people, but rather whether you trust the process. I don't. One process (improving via the trade table) is a short-term judgment, gun to your head, competing against other smart guys in a zero sum game. The other (developing your talent within) is a drawn out and deliberate one, developing talent with your own processes and your own innovations. The former is a confession of lost faith in the latter.Before Adam Smith, the wealth of nations was measured in silver and gold. With a finite amount of such treasure in the world, it was for nations to race and fight and betray each other to secure their share at the expense of everyone else --- and the great risk of putting your treasure on the line to seize greater treasure, exposing yourself to the murderous greed of others as desperate as you. What Smith made clear was that a nation that sees past this rat race was the nation that expanded the wealth within it's territory by freeing its people's minds to recognize new ways to recombine the nation's resources and apply the nation's technology.With the likes of Tejada, Murphy, and Dickey --- and countless others --- the Mets are growing their wealth from resources few saw value in. Now an important part of Smith's principles is also exploiting the demands of the expanding market, but I would recommend they wait until their treasure room is bursting and let the other teams come crawling to them. (And MLB teams don't represent a growing market, but an artificially constrained one.)The Mets were ripped for not acquiring a veteran lefthanded batter for the bench, but the inexperienced lefty benchie they threw out there --- Mike Baxter --- turned out to be better than any of the vet options. The Mets were ripped for not resigning Jos� Reyes, but Tejada and the backups they've used have gotten them decidedly more production at short than the Marlins have had --- at a laughable fraction of the financial commitment. They recognized their resources without compromising them in a standoff at the trade table. Similarly, I think it's real shortsighted for a team with Pedro Beato in their right pocket and Josh Edgin in their left and Matt Harvey in their carryon luggage would give anything up for Huston Street. Innovate, innovate, innovate. They've been thinking since 2006 that the problem with their bullpen is the personnel. It's the usage. Innovate.I have, quite admittedly, a dim understanding of the economic theories that I'm brandishing. But Alderson and his team have changed the course of this team in a very short time with very little attention to the trade market and virtually no pursuit of other teams' competitively priced free-agents --- and I salute them for it.
Theoldmole Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 Dr. Robert Thomson played third base and outfield for the Giants. Dr. Henry Thompson played some second, but mostly third.
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