IGT 6/6/12 Mets @ Nationals Hefner v. Jackson Baywatch

[ashie62]

A new day a new game... On the bright side Elvin Ramirez throws very very hard and may he be able to command it.

On the other side Tejada did pull himself from the Buffalo game as he felt quariceps tightness and was afraid to run.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/47712/bay-returning-tejada-off-rehab

Jason Bay returns to the team tonight with Canadian cheer and a booming bat...

[Fman99]

Ashie62 wrote: A new day a new game... On the bright side Elvin Ramirez throws very very hard and may he be able to command it. On the other side Tejada did pull himself from the Buffalo game as he felt quariceps tightness and was afraid to run. http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/47712/bay-returning-tejada-off-rehab Jason Bay returns to the team tonight with Canadian cheer and a booming bat...

Which player is borrowing his bat?

[Ceetar]

http://www.amazon.com/Diggin-Jr-Big-Boom-Bat/dp/B001648Z9W

[bmfc1]

Bay and Beato are back, C. Young is on paternity leave and Satin was DFA'd.

I hope that Satin gets through waivers.

[Vic Sage]

SEND DAVIS DOWN YOU FUCKERS!

[Ceetar]

bmfc1 wrote: Bay and Beato are back, C. Young is on paternity leave and Satin was DFA'd. I hope that Satin gets through waivers.

Satin's a weird guy. I guess you can blame drafting him but he tore it up last year in the minors, they added him to the 40 man, and now he's expendable? Feels like they should've just taken the chance no one would take him rule-5 and leave him off the roster.

[bmfc1]

C. Young's wife had a baby today... don't hand the baby to Valdespin!

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Ceetar wrote: bmfc1 wrote: Bay and Beato are back, C. Young is on paternity leave and Satin was DFA'd. I hope that Satin gets through waivers. Satin's a weird guy. I guess you can blame drafting him but he tore it up last year in the minors, they added him to the 40 man, and now he's expendable? Feels like they should've just taken the chance no one would take him rule-5 and leave him off the roster.

What? Why?

[Ceetar]

why what?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Why take him off the roster in November when you needed him in June?

[Ceetar]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Why take him off the roster in November when you needed him in June?

"Need" him? What did he get, one AB? Isn't it entirely possible he was promoted because he was on the 40man and that if he was never put on it, they'd have added someone else?

[bmfc1]

I have trouble with the concept that Satin was important enough to get a key AB in last night's game and yet be insignificant enough to be discarded the day after.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Ceetar wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Why take him off the roster in November when you needed him in June? "Need" him? What did he get, one AB? Isn't it entirely possible he was promoted because he was on the 40man and that if he was never put on it, they'd have added someone else?

What does that have to do with anything? Of course they would add "someone else." You want to say you knew who in November?

[bmfc1]

Bay is active but not that active... he isn't in the starting lineup.

Edited June 6, 2012 by Guest

[Ceetar]

bmfc1 wrote: I have trouble with the concept that Satin was important enough to get a key AB in last night's game and yet be insignificant enough to be discarded the day after.

This is my point. If he's just disposable depth anyway, why ever add him to the 40 man? Why bring him up after the Mets were eliminated last year. Save the 40 man spot. He's DFA'd now anyway, if someone wants him, he's gone. If someone wanted him this offseason, they would've had to keep him on the major league roster or give him back, so if you don't think he's a full time player anyway, chances are you'll get him back if someone does claim him. Now someone can claim him and he can be that AAAA guy for them, as long as they have the roster flexibility the Mets don't.

[bmfc1]

We're on the same wavelength Ceetar.

[Ceetar]

bmfc1 wrote: We're on the same wavelength Ceetar.

I have no idea how the lineup is make out tonight. 2 righthanders. Bay obviously playing. Presumably Ike gets one of the days and Nieuwenhuis the other?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

bmfc1 wrote: We're on the same wavelength Ceetar.

You guys are in outer space. Half the team is on the disabled list and you're arguing they should have cut one guy before the season began.

[bmfc1]

I guess Shorty didn't see what I saw last night: Davey using any one of his FOUR lefties to plow through Murphy, Davis and Thole.

[Ceetar]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: bmfc1 wrote: We're on the same wavelength Ceetar. You guys are in outer space. Half the team is on the disabled list and you're arguing they should have cut one guy before the season began.

I didn't want them to cut him, I wanted them to not promote him to the 40 man roster. It just doesn't seem to make sense to me, if you're going to cut him this fast. If this is all you thought his upside was, why not keep F-Mart instead?

[Ceetar]

bmfc1 wrote: I guess Shorty didn't see what I saw last night: Davey using any one of his FOUR lefties to plow through Murphy, Davis and Thole.

Or he saw Davey not having the righties up in those spots and sees it as a prime way to pinch hit and have Bay finish the game defensively with him?

[bmfc1]

METS:
1. Kirk Nieuwenhuis (L) LF
2. Andres Torres (S) CF
3. David Wright ® 3B
4. Lucas Duda (L) RF
5. Daniel Murphy (L) 2B
6. Ike Davis (L) 1B
7. Josh Thole (L) C
8. Omar Quintanilla (L) SS
9. Jeremy Hefner ® P

=#FF40FF]Nationals:
1. Steve Lombardozzi (S) LF
2. Bryce Harper (L) CF
3. Ryan Zimmerman ® 3B
4. Adam LaRoche (L) 1B
5. Michael Morse ® RF
6. Ian Desmond ® SS
7. Danny Espinosa (S) 2B
8. Jesus Flores ® C
9. Edwin Jackson ® P

[Edgy MD]

How does the pink backpack thing work? Does Elvin carry it now or does it fall back on Beato?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Ceetar wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: bmfc1 wrote: We're on the same wavelength Ceetar. You guys are in outer space. Half the team is on the disabled list and you're arguing they should have cut one guy before the season began. I didn't want them to cut him, I wanted them to not promote him to the 40 man roster. It just doesn't seem to make sense to me, if you're going to cut him this fast. If this is all you thought his upside was, why not keep F-Mart instead?

You realize that F-Mart would be gone* now too, or whoever the 40th man was.

*-maybe.

[Ceetar]

Probably. But in a way they removed F-Mart to make/keep room for Satin. Martinez was always the better prospect.

I'm just trying to get a handle on the roster management. It seems sloppy.

[Edgy MD]

Martinez was always the better whatever. Their opinion was that Satin had more value to them going forward. I disagreed. You apparently did too. But until Martinez starts putting points on the scoreboard at the big league level, it's still an open question.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: Martinez was always the better whatever. Their opinion was that Satin had more value to them going forward. I disagreed. You apparently did too. But until Martinez starts putting points on the scoreboard at the big league level, it's still an open question.

well yeah, I'm just questioning if they really had that opinion given the little rope they gave Satin.

Martinez 1 2B, 2RBI to Satin's nothing so far. Might be an insurmountable lead.

[Edgy MD]

Silliness. People get DFA'd all the time. (Maybe Martinez does next.) Buying an insurance policy wasn't foolish because your house didn't burn down.

[Ceetar]

This isn't really about Martinez though.

It's about the chance they actually gave Satin. Why is he an expendable 40th man? And if he's not going to stick in the majors, why did you add him to the 40 man roster to begin with? Or is it just the two months of minor league ball have decided them?

[Ceetar]

Also, Satin was playing first base almost exclusively (and not hitting for any power) in Buffalo. DFAing one of your 40man 1B options probably says something about the immanency of demoting Ike.