IGT - June 1 - Mets v. Cardinals, Beltran Returns

[Ceetar]

Frayed Knot wrote: Gwreck wrote: I was so pleasantly surprised to see how everybody in the crowd got it. The only odd thing - as least as viewed thru TV - was that the ovation for Santana when he came up to bat in the 7th seemed more tepid than one would expect for a pitcher working on a no-hitter. As it turned out, the big 7th inning netted him an 8th inning AB too so the fans had their second chance and, that time, did make the most of it.

I think the 7th inning might have been too early to go bonkers about it, probably tempered by the "We're not supposed to talk about it right?" thoughts.

The lack of no-hitters was never a black mark, merely a fun piece of Mets lore. The whole count, not tonight boss, etc. This is going to change how we feel when the next guy takes on into the 7th, 8th, etc (unless it's this afternoon) but it's totally worth it.

[Edgy MD]

Thoughts that hit me overnight and stuck with me as, for the first time, I woke up with a no hitter beside me:

Was that Jim Duquette in the radio booth with Howie? I don't quite know the timbre of his voice yet. I thought Duke was going under the knife, but it sure didn't sound like Lewin or Ed Coleman or Jiggs McDonald or Juan Berroa or anybody. I think we need to stay with Jim until he falters, just like we're staying with the gwreck on the IGTs.

How about Terry resisting the temptation to put Hairston in right (where, to be fair, he made some sucky plays last year) or Valdespin at second? You'd figure that in both cases you'd get more hit-preventing range, if not error-preventing sureness of hands. Is being a defensive replacement in no-hit bid just too much of a shit-your-pants situation that a manager shouldn't ask it of somebody unless he's got Ozzie Smith or Keith Hernandez or somebody on his bench?

If there's a no-hitter going on, and the game isn't sold out, can you just pull up and buy a ticket in the seventh inning?

Is this the day Josh Thole became a man?

Sucks to be one of the guys who got sent down this week.

Double sucks to be Jose Reyes. Tough Titties. You have a hundred million consolation prizes.

Three soft liners/flares in the last innings really seemed to be knucklers --- the one Nieuie, the one to Torres, and the one to Murphy/Quintanilla. But that may have been my heart knuckling. The outfielders also seemed to playing shallow the last two innings. I don't know if that was a function of the batters or maybe they had an understanding that if Santana was going to get beat, he wasn't going to get beat on something soft.

Contrast Baxter's catch with Pedro Martinez's no-hit bid in (I think) Los Angeles when Gerald Williams failed to make a catch because he folded before hitting the wall. BOOOOOOOO, Gerald!

The tiniest part of my mind worries about a letdown start in the twilight game tonight by Dickey. Fuck that part of my mind.

If Wright is coming out of his slump and Duda is smoking hot... if we have talented reinforcements coming into the pen... if we have no less than four impressive pitching prospects banging at the door of the big leagues... can anything stop this team? No, nothing can. Don't tell me otherwise.

Can't believe Ben Grimm cried. Beautiful.

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[Ceetar]

so hard to find backpages of the more obscure papers on the Internet. who cares about the Front? Johan!

[Frayed Knot]

Edgy DC wrote: Was that Jim Duquette in the radio booth with Howie? I don't quite know the timbre of his voice yet. I thought Duke was going under the knife, but it sure didn't sound like Lewin or Ed Coleman or Jiggs McDonald or Juan Berroa or anybody.

Yeah, that was Duquette.
Lewin was off for some reason or another.

[Ceetar]

[Ceetar]

Frayed Knot wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Was that Jim Duquette in the radio booth with Howie? I don't quite know the timbre of his voice yet. I thought Duke was going under the knife, but it sure didn't sound like Lewin or Ed Coleman or Jiggs McDonald or Juan Berroa or anybody. Yeah, that was Duquette. Lewin was off for some reason or another.

someone's graduation. Daughter?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I was never bothered by the no-hitter drought myself, and understand how quirky and random it is. So I'd been in this thing where I sort of secretly wished for the streak to continue especially when guys like Glavine were on the mound.

Lunchpail was getting tucked into bed when I came in and told him, Duda hit a 3-run homer and Santana has a no hitter going... Until then I was convinced this would be one of those games where the Mets wouldn't get a lead big enough for Santana to hold. I also knew he'd thrown 40 pitches by the second inning, so even though my no-hitter gaydar was activated I was very sure it was going to end, or he'd become too gassed, or whatever. I voted "It ends on a hit" in FK's poll.

So it was a mix of shock and elation when he did it. The moment it looked real to me was when the first pitch of the 9th inning went for a fly out. I was like, OK, 130 pitches is realistic now. I'm happy it happened.

Edited June 2, 2012 by Guest

[Met Hunter]

I watched the first seven innings, then listened to the last two on radio with Howie. I have to say all these years watching and the occasional game where a Met pitcher looked like he was going to pitch one, I was always brought back to reality. Then i would ask myself, what were you thinking? They've never gotten one and they never will. But now they do and its great. I never understood how Houston could have such a wealth of no hitters and we have none in the same time span. Well now we do. And we have 2 championships that they don't have. Everything makes sense now.

I'm one of those Met fans that think the sad sack Met fan mentatlity is somewhat endearing. That being said, there's a large part of me thats so sick of that same old Mets shit that is spewed out by the media and MFY shills. I love seeing a true warrior like Johan fight back from the abyss and put away a number one ranked offense. I'd rather see Mike Baxter make a great play to keep a no hitter alive, than watch him miss a popup with clown music playing in the background. I love the fact that Terry Collins makes a statement about expectations when you put on the Mets uniform. Thats the way Gil was. Thats the way its supposed to be. Ronnie and Keith give off that same vibe.

I want to thank the wealth of pitching the Mets have shown me in my fifty years of being a Met fan. Seaver, Koosman, Ryan, Matlack, Swan, Gooden, Darling, Sid, Cone, Saberhagen, Viola, Leiter, BJones, Hampton, Glavine, Pedro, to name a few. And Johan repesenting and getting it done for all those great pitchers from the past that had the stuff but not the breaks.

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[metirish]

Lewin has a good sense of humor ,anyway, it's his first season.

Good thoughts Edgy, I actually wondered about being able to get in into the game in the later innings too....

No offense to scrub pitchers but I would not have liked to have seen a Batista throw the Mets first no-hitter, better that it was Santana.

[Met Hunter]

OK, time to get an MVP off the bucket list.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

I always thought the first Mets no-no would come from an unexpected source -- like an Oliver Perez -- on the road and during one of those West Coast night games that start at 10 pm and none of us gets to see it.

This couldn't be more different: Santana, at home, on a healthy Friday night crowd and against the World champs. Awesome.

[metirish]

Damn, I hope Pete Flynn got to see it.

[Edgy MD]

Met Hunter wrote: I love seeing a true warrior like Johan fight back from the abyss and put away a number one ranked offense.

I think this is going to rise to the top of the conversation over the next few days. These aren't the crippled Padres. This is a really good hitting team.

metirish wrote: No offense to scrub pitchers but I would not have liked to have seen a Batista throw the Mets first no-hitter, better that it was Santana.

Yeah, but there are scrubs and there are scrubs. I'd love for it to have been an otherwise marginal homegrown guy like Heilman or Pacella or Anthony Young or somebody.

[metirish]

Oh, no doubt on the likes of Heilman, IIRC he took one deep ......

[G-Fafif]

[G-Fafif]

It is Duquette's daughter who is having kidney replacement surgery. Her dad made the donation.

[G-Fafif]

[Guest sharpie]

Look up at Ceetar post of NY Times. Article next to Mets story:

Cambodia Seeks Return of Met Statues.

Frontrunner Cambodians

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[Edgy MD]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Are there any other sets of pitchers that hurled no-hitters after they were traded for each other, besides Johan and Humber?

Poor Twins don't get either.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

sharpie wrote: Look up at Ceetar post of NY Times. Article next to Mets story: Cambodia Seeks Return of Met Statues. Frontrunner Cambodians

So that's where our long-awaited Seaver statue has been.

[Edgy MD]

I'm coming around to the (absolutely stupid) notion that no-hitters will be like opening day wins for us --- a thing that we go from being associated with only in terms of failure to being associated with in earnest. Like we'll be reading "Yet Another No-Hitter for the Mets!" How's that for crazy giddy stupid?

Anyhow, we're out of the cellar, and it's nice.

No-Hitters by Team (Includes Defunctarinos)

Team	League	No-Nos
Los Angeles Dodgers	NL	20
Boston Red Sox	AL	19
Chicago White Sox	AL	17
Cleveland Indians	AL	15
Cincinnati Reds	NL	15
San Francisco Giants	NL	14
New York Yankees	AL	13
Atlanta Braves	NL	13
Oakland Athletics	AL	11
Baltimore Orioles	AL	10
Chicago Cubs	NL	10
Houston Astros	NL	10
Philadelphia Phillies	NL	10
Anaheim Angels	AL	9
St. Louis Cardinals	NL	9
Detroit Tigers	AL	7
Minnesota Twins	AL	7
Pittsburgh Pirates	NL	7
Texas Rangers	AL	5
Montreal Expos	NL	5
Kansas City Royals	AL	4
Florida Marlins	NL	4
Seattle Mariners	AL	2
Arizona Diamondbacks	NL	2
Baltimore Orioles	NL (Defunct)	2
Milwaukee Brewers�[AL]	AL	1
Toronto Blue Jays	AL	1
Brooklyn Brookfeds	FL	1
Chicago Whales	FL	1
Kansas City Packers	FL	1
Pittsburgh Rebels	FL	1
St. Louis Terriers	FL	1
Colorado Rockies	NL	1
Milwaukee Brewers	NL	1
New York Mets	AL/NL	1
Cleveland Spiders	NL (Defunct)	1
Louisville Colonels	NL (Defunct)	1
Cincinnati Outlaw Reds	UA	1
Milwaukee Cream Citys	UA	1
Tampa Bay Devil Rays	AL	0
Buffalo Blues	FL	0
San Diego Padres	NL	0
Kansas City Unions	UA	0
Washington Nationals	UA	0

No-Hitter Rate by Team (Active Teams Only)

Team	League	No-Nos	Games	NH/162
Florida Marlins	NL	4	3,062	0.21
Houston Astros	NL	10	8,028	0.20
Anaheim Angels	AL	9	8,188	0.18
Boston Red Sox	AL	19	17,349	0.18
Los Angeles Dodgers	NL	20	19,686	0.16
Chicago White Sox	AL	17	17,358	0.16
Cleveland Indians	AL	15	17,362	0.14
Arizona Diamondbacks	NL	2	2,320	0.14
Cincinnati Reds	NL	15	19,886	0.12
New York Yankees	AL	13	17,337	0.12
Montreal Expos	NL	5	6,884	0.12
San Francisco Giants	NL	14	19,771	0.11
Atlanta Braves	NL	13	20,267	0.10
Oakland Athletics	AL	11	17,323	0.10
Oakland Athletics	AL	11	17,323	0.10
Texas Rangers	AL	5	8,173	0.10
Kansas City Royals	AL	4	6,879	0.09
Baltimore Orioles	AL	10	17,362	0.09
Philadelphia Phillies	NL	10	19,697	0.08
Philadelphia Phillies	NL	10	19,697	0.08
Chicago Cubs	NL	10	20,301	0.08
St. Louis Cardinals	NL	9	19,889	0.07
Tampa Bay Rays	AL	1	2,317	0.07
Minnesota Twins	AL	7	17,370	0.07
Detroit Tigers	AL	7	17,389	0.07
Seattle Mariners	AL	2	5,601	0.06
Pittsburgh Pirates	NL	7	19,846	0.06
Colorado Rockies	NL	1	3,067	0.05
Toronto Blue Jays	AL	1	5,600	0.03
Milwaukee Brewers�[AL&NL]	NL	1	6,889	0.02
New York Mets	NL	1	8,020	0.02
San Diego Padres	NL	0	6,895	0.00

[Gwreck]

Matt Garza had one for Tampa.

[Methead]

First time checking in here since last night, and I still can't believe what I just saw.

I hardly even get a chance to sit and watch a whole game, but I had a cousin (and his Mets fan wife) visiting from Braves country, so we hung out, drank tons of beer, and got to celebrate history together.

Pretty sweet.

[Edgy MD]

Gwreck wrote: Matt Garza had one for Tampa.

Yeah, I should have known my source would be out of date. But they had the all-important Chicago Whales no-hitter.

[Edgy MD]

Edgy DC wrote: Terry's gotta give him an extra day's rest before the next start. And an erotic massage for that matter.

Pregame report confirms he'll be pushed back. No word on the massage.

And Elvin Ramirez got hurt in the celebration. Holy crap, what a turn for him in his first day on a big league roster.

[metirish]

Edgy DC wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Terry's gotta give him an extra day's rest before the next start. And an erotic massage for that matter. Pregame report confirms he'll be pushed back. No word on the massage. And Elvin Ramirez got hurt in the celebration. Holy crap, what a turn for him in his first day on a big league roster.

Security probably didn't know who he was.

[Guest sharpie]

Walking around town today I've never seen so many people wearing Mets gear in years.