4/3/12 MFY @ Mets

[Ceetar]

Last game in Port St. Lucie.

1) Andres Torres CF
2) Daniel Murphy 2B
3) David Wright 3B
4) Ike Davis 1B
5) Jason Bay LF
6) Lucas Duda RF
7) Scott Hairston DH
8) Josh Thole C
9) Ruben Tejada SS

Pelfrey and Nova. I guess the Mets acquisitcized (i can't spell) to the Yankees angry demands to have a DH since Yankees pitchers explode near baseball bats.

[bmfc1]

Good article in The Times on the history of Mets-MFY games (also reminding us what an ass George Steinbrenner was):
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/03/sports/baseball/yankees-and-mets-resuming-rivalry-in-florida.html?_r=1&ref=baseball

And there's another in the WSJ:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304023504577320120714793382.html?mod=WSJ_NY_Sports_LEFT_LEADNewsCollection#articleTabs%3Darticle

Edited April 3, 2012 by Guest

[bmfc1]

How I hate them.

New York Yankees ? @Yankees
The last 6 times Kentucky has won the NCAA men's basketball title, the @Yankees have gone on to win the World Series.

[Ceetar]

that story has been making the rounds all week. Bound to break the streak.

Yankees have also never won with a sitting Republican president.

[Guest sharpie]

Yankees won plenty of times with Eisenhower in office.

[bmfc1]

It seemed arrogant, and therefore within character, for them to use their official Twitter feed for that information.

[Benjamin Grimm]

The Mets have never finished in first place with a Democrat in office. But they did make the playoffs (in 1999 and 2000) as a wild card when Clinton was in the White House.

[Edgy MD]

sharpie wrote: Yankees won plenty of times with Eisenhower in office.

Witnesses say Ike was always standing at the time.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: sharpie wrote: Yankees won plenty of times with Eisenhower in office. Witnesses say Ike was always standing at the time.

Lol.


well, it's a Yankee story so I didn't care enough to fact check. It's amazing how much incorrect info gets around.

Apparently it's something like the last 8 or so titles, and it may have been prompted by an op-ed in the Times by Ari Fletcher.

[Edgy MD]

Ceetar wrote: Edgy DC wrote: sharpie wrote: Yankees won plenty of times with Eisenhower in office. Witnesses say Ike was always standing at the time. Lol. well, it's a Yankee story so I didn't care enough to fact check. It's amazing how much incorrect info gets around. Apparently it's something like the last 8 or so titles, and it may have been prompted by an op-ed in the Times by Ari Fletcher.

It gets around because we don't care enough to fact check.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: It gets around because we don't care enough to fact check.

Fair enough. But it's time consuming to fact check each and every rumor or tidbit you hear.

[Edgy MD]

Hmmmm... Anybody else?

[Edgy MD]

I don't really want to come across as unreasonable, because I love you and I hope for your happiness. I long for it. But if you're going to take some time to write, to pass on information without attribution --- essentially backing it with no authority but your own --- you can and should take the time to fact-check.

And in fairness, no baseball fan or educated American of any depth should have to take much more than a moment's reflection to recall that (1) the Yankees won a pile of championships in the 1950s, (2) the president then was Dwight D. Eisenhower, and (3) Ike was a Republican.

Twitter is making us insane.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

As part of the research I was doing on my Seaver thing, I came across some stuff indicating that (not surprisingly I suppose) M. Donald Grant took the mayor's Trophy Game very seriously too (as did Casey in the early years).

I'm probably fudging the details here, but it was in '77 and Grant was upset that the Mets were going to start Ray Sadecki (who'd been released and was becoming the Mets batting practice pitcher). I think he wanted a better guy to go. The game was rained out anyway.

I went to the Mayor's Trophy Game in '75 (I think ??) at Shea. As I recall it, big crowd, MFYs won.

[Ceetar]

So I'm bad at history. sue me. (trying to make an effort be better with some of that, personally) I actually did NOT know that Eisenhower was a republican. Nor did I know his exact term years nor the list of Yankee Championship years confidentially enough to see the red flag when I noted it.

You're right, it's sloppy of me. But I'm at work and I'm already multi-tasking when I'm posting here (and way too much, yes) And yes this one would've been an easy fact check but it's not always. I'll try to be better about presenting these tid-bits as unconfirmed water-cooler type info I see them as.

[bmfc1]

MFYs: Gardner 7, Swisher dh, Chavez 3, Jones 9, Nunez 6, Cervelli 2, Wise 8, Hall 4, Bernier 5. Nova, rhp.

[Vic Sage]

1) Andres Torres CF 2) Daniel Murphy 2B 3) David Wright 3B 4) Ike Davis 1B 5) Jason Bay LF 6) Lucas Duda RF 7) Scott Hairston DH 8) Josh Thole C 9) Ruben Tejada SS

other than the DH, I assume this will be our opening day lineup.

If it stays healthy (a big "if", with so many players coming off significant injuries), this lineup could generate a sufficient amount of runs to be a winning team. Unfortunately, the pitching and fielding are sufficiently inadequate as to make it unlikely that those runs will be able to stand up.

[metirish]

bmfc1 wrote: Good article in The Times on the history of Mets-MFY games (also reminding us what an ass George Steinbrenner was): http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/03/sports/baseball/yankees-and-mets-resuming-rivalry-in-florida.html?_r=1&ref=baseball And there's another in the WSJ: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304023504577320120714793382.html?mod=WSJ_NY_Sports_LEFT_LEADNewsCollection#articleTabs%3Darticle

what a wanker indeed.....

[Frayed Knot]

Pelfrey does the 1-2-3 top 'o one ... but there was no Jeter in there so it really doesn't count.

[Ceetar]

And now the Mets are raining hits. Torres, Murphy, Wright, sac fly for Davis, Bay.

[Guest sharpie]

As they constantly remind us, Yankees have won 27 WS.

Presidents they have won under:
Coolidge 3 (GOP)
Hoover 1 (GOP)
FDR 6 (Dem)
Truman 5 (Dem)
Eisenhower 3 (GOP)
JFK 2 (Dem)
Carter 2 (Dem)
Clinton 4 (Dem)
Obama 1 (Dem)

Democrats 20
Republicans 7

They have won 7 times in election years. In those years the GOP won the Presidential election 4-3.

[bmfc1]

Anybody enjoying LaRussa in the booth? How about when Ron Darling brought up Y. Molina and how great he is? Fun for all Mets fans!

[Edgy MD]

Five-zip and still rallying in the third.

The Yanks may not have sent much of a big-league team to face the Mets, but they did send a big-league pitcher in Nova, and the Mets are sending him to an early shower.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Yeah I realized while listening that if I owned the Mets, I'd probably try to make them go all out to win stuff like this.

Lucky you.

[Edgy MD]

Five strikeouts and no walks for the Pelf.

[TransMonk]

That's not horrible.

As low as my expectations are for Pelf, I'm still pulling for him to do well.

[Ceetar]

TransMonk wrote: That's not horrible. As low as my expectations are for Pelf, I'm still pulling for him to do well.

They were _swinging_ strikeouts too. (at least most of them)

[Benjamin Grimm]

Well, sure. I think we're all pulling for him to do well. There's really no upside to him pitching poorly. I mean, maybe it would get Harvey here sooner, but I figure that once he's ready, he'll be here pretty quickly, one way or another.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

WTF Niese will cost him the win.

[Edgy MD]

Five-run sixth to put the Yankee-clothing-wearing baseballers in the lead.