Resuming Baseball Activities: Injuries in 2012

[Edgy MD]

Ashie62 wrote: Ceetar wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Failure to recover with conservative treatment often ends up being one of the best indicators for surgery. That's sort of inane, isn't it? Sort of like failure to win your felony trial often ends up being one of the best indicators for imprisonment. yeah. probably. I think it's making the assumption that if it doesn't heal, it's not that it needs more time, it's that it needs to be fixed. there was some thought that Wright had plateau'd in his recovery, which concerns me. Keith certainly goes on and on about that. I tend to agree, but neither of us are experts on muscles. Wright's agent will not let David on the field anything less than 100 percent..Its almost payday.

I don't believe a word of this. Payday is two years away. And really, seeing as he's already earning $15 million a year, payday is every two weeks.

[Guest The Second Spitter]

Fman99 wrote: Mike Kerwick wrote: David Wright said he has small tear in his rectus abdominus. I had a girlfriend in college that let me tear into her rectus. She was a wild one.

Can she still walk?

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Say we lose Wright for a month. Who plays third? Murphy?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Yeah, I think Muffy 3B, Turner/Valdespin//Havens at 2B

[Ceetar]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Yeah, I think Muffy 3B, Turner/Valdespin//Havens at 2B

I dunno..Collins seems serious about keeping Murph at second. Turner at third seems more probable.

[Edgy MD]

I think his seriousness could evolve.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Ceetar wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Yeah, I think Muffy 3B, Turner/Valdespin//Havens at 2B I dunno..Collins seems serious about keeping Murph at second. Turner at third seems more probable.

I doubt that. Moving Muffy to 3rd and installing an actual infielder at 2nd would improve the D at a time when the offense is presumably suffering without Wright. I have my doubts that the Muffster lasts at second for long. I mean how he plays there is one a million big mysteries for this team.

Besides, for all his terrific attitude, Tyrna is not a particularly good ballplayer, which is why I think it's just as likely that Valdespin and/or Havens get the next shot at full-timing second base.

[Ceetar]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Yeah, I think Muffy 3B, Turner/Valdespin//Havens at 2B I dunno..Collins seems serious about keeping Murph at second. Turner at third seems more probable. I doubt that. Moving Muffy to 3rd and installing an actual infielder at 2nd would improve the D at a time when the offense is presumably suffering without Wright. I have my doubts that the Muffster lasts at second for long. I mean how he plays there is one a million big mysteries for this team. Besides, for all his terrific attitude, Tyrna is not a particularly good ballplayer, which is why I think it's just as likely that Valdespin and/or Havens get the next shot at full-timing second base.

Havens isn't even healthy yet right? I don't think either of them have a real shot at breaking camp with the team, which is the month Wright would miss. Does switching Murphy and Turner really make that much of a difference defensively, including on May's defense when Murphy slides back over without the added month of practice?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Ceetar wrote: Ceetar wrote: Yeah, I think Muffy 3B, Turner/Valdespin//Havens at 2B I dunno..Collins seems serious about keeping Murph at second. Turner at third seems more probable. I doubt that. Moving Muffy to 3rd and installing an actual infielder at 2nd would improve the D at a time when the offense is presumably suffering without Wright. I have my doubts that the Muffster lasts at second for long. I mean how he plays there is one a million big mysteries for this team. Besides, for all his terrific attitude, Tyrna is not a particularly good ballplayer, which is why I think it's just as likely that Valdespin and/or Havens get the next shot at full-timing second base. Havens isn't even healthy yet right? I don't think either of them have a real shot at breaking camp with the team, which is the month Wright would miss. Does switching Murphy and Turner really make that much of a difference defensively, including on May's defense when Murphy slides back over without the added month of practice?

Well, my D comparison was Muffy and an Actual Infielder*, not Muffy and Tyrna. I think they're both suspect defensively and it will be interesting to see how long the Mets will put up with them. They can get by for a few weeks on anyone, but whern I'm saying Havens/Vadespin/etc., I'm thinking about the next guy who can last there for a season or three. All theoretical at this point.

*- Random defensive guy, say a Quintanilla or similar.

[Edgy MD]

If we weren't pinched at shortstop right now, I'd see Turner as on the block.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: If we weren't pinched at shortstop right now, I'd see Turner as on the block.

Definitely a candidate for a trade this season. Murphy might be too though, if he can't manage second, and he's probably have a lot of value. If we see Valdespin/Havens looking good up in Buffalo..

[Edgy MD]

He's a candidate, I think, because even as those guys find their respective ways, Satin is pretty redundant with him as the for-the-time-being-guy who can fill in adequately at second, third and short. But having a year of staying above water behind him, Turner probably has more trade market value than Satin.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: He's a candidate, I think, because even as those guys find their respective ways, Satin is pretty redundant with him as the for-the-time-being-guy who can fill in adequately at second, third and short. But having a year of staying above water behind him, Turner probably has more trade market value than Satin.

whereas Satin might actually be better, so that could be win-win. Satin can 'play' short? I should probably know that.

[Edgy MD]

Just my feelings, but you don't have to quote the entirety of a post, I think, when it immediately precedes your'n.

[duan]

sometimes I find it helps if (like on this thread) there's a lot of jumping around.
I know I do it too.

[Guest themetfairy]

Edgy DC wrote: Just my feelings, but you don't have to quote the entirety of a post, I think, when it immediately precedes your'n.

Except for those times that your post winds up at the very top of the next page, and people forget what it is that you're discussing.

[Ceetar]

themetfairy wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Just my feelings, but you don't have to quote the entirety of a post, I think, when it immediately precedes your'n. Except for those times that your post winds up at the very top of the next page, and people forget what it is that you're discussing.

Or you're discussing off-topic like trades in an injury thread.

[Edgy MD]

Chin-ming Wang just took a bad spill at first.

John Lannan physically pulled off trade market.

[Frayed Knot]

Edgy DC wrote: Chin-ming Wang just took a bad spill at first.

In a related note, Hank Steinbrenner, present at the game between the Yanx & Nats where this happened, reflexively proposed that pitchers no longer be required to field since it so obviously leads to injuries.

[Edgy MD]

Wright says he "primarily simulated baseball movements" in the gym with trainers yesterday.

Sounds pretty close to... resuming baseball activities.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Edgy DC wrote: Wright says he "primarily simulated baseball movements"

So... he pretended to pretend to play baseball?

[TransMonk]

For the most part...virtually, anyways.

[Edgy MD]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Wright says he "primarily simulated baseball movements" So... he pretended to pretend to play baseball?

Why should he be any different?

[Ceetar]

Rubes wrote: I'm told by some helpful eyewitnesses that Wright did throw the ball a little while outdoors.

[Edgy MD]

Centerfield Depth Chart

Andres Torres
[crossout]Scott Hairston[/crossout]
Adam Loewen
Jason Bay
[crossout]Kirk Neiuwenheis[/crossout]
Mike Baxter
Ronny Cede�o
Matt Den Dekker
Raul Reyes
Lorenzo Scott
Mookie Wilson <--- New Guy, just arrived at camp today
Jonathan Malo
Darrell Ceciliani
Sean Ratliff
Mike Piazza
Nancy Pelosi
Nelson Mandela
That guy in your office who walks kind of funny
Snooki
Vic Sage

[Edgy MD]

Miggy Cabrera, taking a hard Hunter Pence hopper off the eye socket.



Supposedly left the field bleeding profusely.

[metirish]

if that doesn't drive him to the bottle I don't know what will.....

[Edgy MD]

Seems to have kept cool though. I'd have crumbled like a ragdoll. I'm crumbling right now just watching it.

[Edgy MD]

Hate blood? Don't scroll down.















Tough dude. Gutsy of inge to walk over like that and ask if he could play third again.

[duan]

ah c'mon, i've popped my eye like that plenty of times with a clash of heads on the football pitch and patched it back together myself with sterile strips. Ref's won't allow you play on any more (hard to stop the eye from leaking and you can't put a big bandage around it to protect it without blinding yourself) , but if it's higher up i've played on with a head wrapped up no bother.

If it were regular season game and he didn't come back I'd be surprised .