Waived

[Edgy MD]

Danny Herrera and Fernando Martinez.

Whoah!

[Ceetar]

not quite a Woah yet. If it's indeed true, it might mean nothing more than removal from 40 man.

And there's also the option of being pulled back.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

fuh...

I'd have guessed DJ Carrasco and Armando Rodriguez.

I know it was mostly smoke and mirrors but Herrera was the bees' vagina last year.

[Edgy MD]

I don't have no ESPN access, but if these are truly revocable waivers, then the Mets better clear some room in the next 24 hours, because there's no space to pull them back to.

They could certainly clear, what with the health questions on Martinez and the height questions on Herrera, but I imagine an American League club might be curious.

I like Herrera. Can't see the downside to waiving Carrasco. I guess he gets to declare free agency if he gets farmed out, but...

[seawolf17]

Edgy DC wrote: I like Herrera. Can't see the downside to waiving Carrasco. I guess he gets to declare free agency if he gets farmed out, but...

...there's that whole guaranteed contract thing. You think they're eating $1.2 million? No way.

[Edgy MD]

It's a spent cost. If they've lost faith in his ability to outpitch the last guy on the roster, why not?

And it's not necessarily eaten. He could certainly clear waivers. And he could possibly accept a demotion.

We can dispute what it its, but there's a dollar sign on the value in Martinez and Herrera, also. We can just as easily decry the "loss" of the $1.4 million signing bonus Fernando Martinez got back in the olden times, plus the hunnerts of thousands in medical expenses.

[ashie62]

Good bye Fmart you pussy little toad.

[ashie62]

Edgy DC wrote: Danny Herrera and Fernando Martinez. Whoah!

Not much regard for Justin Turner here either.

[bmfc1]

I also like Herrera. That slow pitch got a few outs last season although the Mets think that the pitch loses its effectiveness with familiarity. He was half the "bounty" for F. Rodriguez so I'm surprised that they gave up on him this quickly.

[smg58]

Martinez is out of options, so unless he made the team as the fifth outfielder, this was going to happen. Of course, going out and getting a fifth outfielder will necessitate somebody else being waived, too. I'd have given him the chance, personally.

I don't understand why Carrasco is still on the 40. He'd clear waivers, unless somebody does us a favor. If he opted for free agency, we'd still save some money if he spends any time on somebody else's major league roster. Herrera may not be anything special, but he's more valuable than Carrasco.

I'd hate to think we'd just let these guys get claimed when there may be room for the both of them.

[nymr83]

Fernando Martinez? I wonder what the Mets could have gotten had they dealt him when he was still considered a "prospect", now he's gone the way of Milledge and Escobar, trade-bait gone rotten

[Ceetar]

smg58 wrote: Martinez is out of options, so unless he made the team as the fifth outfielder, this was going to happen. Of course, going out and getting a fifth outfielder will necessitate somebody else being waived, too. I'd have given him the chance, personally. I don't understand why Carrasco is still on the 40. He'd clear waivers, unless somebody does us a favor. If he opted for free agency, we'd still save some money if he spends any time on somebody else's major league roster. Herrera may not be anything special, but he's more valuable than Carrasco. I'd hate to think we'd just let these guys get claimed when there may be room for the both of them.

Fernando still has options.

[ashie62]

Ceetar wrote: smg58 wrote: Martinez is out of options, so unless he made the team as the fifth outfielder, this was going to happen. Of course, going out and getting a fifth outfielder will necessitate somebody else being waived, too. I'd have given him the chance, personally. I don't understand why Carrasco is still on the 40. He'd clear waivers, unless somebody does us a favor. If he opted for free agency, we'd still save some money if he spends any time on somebody else's major league roster. Herrera may not be anything special, but he's more valuable than Carrasco. I'd hate to think we'd just let these guys get claimed when there may be room for the both of them. Fernando still has options.

And a 23 year old arthritic knee..why bother really?

[Guest attgig]

it would be sad if this was really the end of fmart's met career.

[Edgy MD]

And a 23 year old arthritic knee..why bother really?

Because perfection doesn't exist in this broken world, yet still some light breaks through. And it's ours to search through all the broken places trying to find it.

[MFS62]

Edgy DC wrote: And a 23 year old arthritic knee..why bother really? Because perfection doesn't exist in this broken world, yet still some light breaks through. And it's ours to search through all the broken places trying to find it.

Very poetic.
Very true.
There are a bunch of "imperfect" major leaguers.
They're called designated hitters.

Later

[Guest Mets � Willets Point]

MFS62 wrote: There are a bunch of "imperfect" major leaguers. They're called designated hitters.

I thought they were called the New York Mets.

[ashie62]

If you a part time OF and want to try to catch lightning in a bottle try Fmart.

[ashie62]

Edgy DC wrote: And a 23 year old arthritic knee..why bother really? Because perfection doesn't exist in this broken world, yet still some light breaks through. And it's ours to search through all the broken places trying to find it.

Sounds like Elvis Costello a bit.

[MFS62]

Ashie62 wrote: Edgy DC wrote: And a 23 year old arthritic knee..why bother really? Because perfection doesn't exist in this broken world, yet still some light breaks through. And it's ours to search through all the broken places trying to find it. Sounds like Elvis Costello a bit.

Sounds more like Candide.

Later

[Edgy MD]

Toby Hyde documents the slings and arrows of Martinez's outrageous fortune.

[metirish]

Edgy DC wrote: Toby Hyde documents the slings and arrows of Martinez's outrageous fortune.

sad really

[ashie62]

Wonder if Fmart has an education.

[Edgy MD]

Why do you wonder that?

The Mets gave him a big chunk of money to set aside for college when they signed him.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Trying to figure out exactly what this means. Have the Mets cut ties with him for good, or does he come back with a minor league deal if not claimed by another team?

[Benjamin Grimm]

He's still Mets property if he's not claimed. They'd be able to put him in the minors and off the 40-man roster.

I don't know if another team that claims him would have to put him on their 40. If so, then that might be a deterrent.

[Ceetar]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: He's still Mets property if he's not claimed. They'd be able to put him in the minors and off the 40-man roster. I don't know if another team that claims him would have to put him on their 40. If so, then that might be a deterrent.

yes, they do. It's possible Sandy asked around a bit about trading him to judge interest and has an educated hope that he'll clear.

[Edgy MD]

I'd say it's probable. How educated that hope is and how much stock Sanderson is placing in it are further matters, but there have been whispers for several months that the Mets were looking to move on from the Martinez adventure.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: I'd say it's probable. How educated that hope is and how much stock Sanderson is placing in it are further matters, but there have been whispers for several months that the Mets were looking to move on from the Martinez adventure.

We'll find out soon. But him playing 'everyday' in the minors without eating roster space is probably the best option.

[metirish]

Alderson has no emotional ties to the kid, if he evaluated his body of work and his body he'd not be impressed, and obviously he wasn't.