Mets vs. Your-Name-Here Stadium

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

whoa

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Mind blown.

[Edgy MD]

In the end, though, it's not that surprising. Secondary colors are frequently the ideal complement to the primary color, or it's numerical opposite. Spring training unis generally graduate secondary colors to the primary position and... voila.





Not far off from some of the misbegotten spring getups of years past.

[metirish]

Mets score board right now, via FB

[Ceetar]

That's just the video board, the other scoreboard is the one you're comparing to the Marlins board.

[Frayed Knot]

Let's also not make the assumption that the dearth of advertising on the Marlins' board is the result of some sort of high-brow aesthetic choice.
To paraphrase the fake Mark Zuckerberg from 'Social Network'; if they could have sold more advertising, they would have sold more advertising

[Ceetar]

Advertisers generally want people to ..you know...be in the stadium to SEE advertisements.

Surprised no naming right though.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I dunno. To me its all those small ads -- in newspaper talk "fractionals" -- that make the CF scoreboard look like a gigantic page in the classifieds. Having opened in a huge advertising slump contributed to it, but it's also the way they chose to sell.

I do think if they cannot resist the $$ they bring in, they can and should do a better job of trying to arrange them so they look better. For example, the Pepsi sign, for a huge advertisiement, looks alright.

Looking at CF from the Whitestone or Van Wyck just breaks your heart, nothing says "baseball" everything says advertising.

[metsmarathon]

if only we oculd better follow the yankees' lead on these things. they're all class. no extra ads. only the bare minimum. the important ones. the.. uh...

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yet somehow, citi looks slightly tackier. i think the big problem is that the ad spaces on the scoreboard at citi seem taked on. like the original space allotment wasn't enough, they needed more cash, so they just slapped up some more placards hanging off hte sides of the structure.

oe, why does htat never work for me? i'd stick it in original size, but its about 3k pixels wide!

[metirish]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Looking at CF from the Whitestone or Van Wyck just breaks your heart, nothing says "baseball" everything says advertising.

great point , I go over that bridge a bit and yeah CF might as well have a blimp moored off of it.

[Ceetar]

if only we oculd better follow the yankees' lead on these things. they're all class. no extra ads. only the bare minimum. the important ones. the.. uh... 600x400http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/mariners/yankees0630.jpg> yet somehow, citi looks slightly tackier. i think the big problem is that the ad spaces on the scoreboard at citi seem taked on. like the original space allotment wasn't enough, they needed more cash, so they just slapped up some more placards hanging off hte sides of the structure. oe, why does htat never work for me? i'd stick it in original size, but its about 3k pixels wide!

I think that looks tackier than Citi. I guess technically the porch is advertising, but imo it's about as nice as you can get an ad.. with that and the bridge, at least the entire backdrop of the stadium isn't dominated by the ads. If you keep your focus on the field you sorta get away from the big glaring ads. (Of course, there is advertising all over the place... Not really much to do about it these days I guess. I do miss the pennants on the walls, and I barely remember those)







I like it as the 'tacked on' look. It sorta deemphasizes the ads from the scoreboard. Also it was a solid change when they went from any old ad, to 'hey, let's get an actual tv company ad here in a muted black style so it doesn't distract from the scoreboard."

[metsmarathon]

to each his own. mfy3 is awash with adverts, to the point that the mfyldb's can't say shit about citi. but i think their scoreboard is a cleaner implementation of the ads upon ads upon ads. its the airspace between the ads on citi's board that makes them look all jumbly.

again, like they were never intended to be there, but someone got a little too sell-happy, and they had to make do.

the mfy's don't detract from teh stadium elements there because they occupy empty space. the citi ads occupy the space between teh structural / stylistic elements of the framework and supports of the board and the lights, and detract from it as such.

why have the cool architectural lattice in the first place if all you're going to do is sandwich it between a bunch of ads?

it is better that they replaced the construction equipment rental ads with the sharp ads. i'll grant you that.

[Ceetar]

metsmarathon wrote: why have the cool architectural lattice in the first place if all you're going to do is sandwich it between a bunch of ads?

I can agree with that, it seems the perfect place for ads and yet it's a cool lattice. Do you think (on the video board scoreboard) it'd look better if the latticework went all around the advertisements as and outline? that might be better.

[metsmarathon]

it would certainly help make them look more integral

[Ceetar]

started putting some ads up

They're calling it Marlins Park for now right? official in a couple of hours, so sounds like this stadium will continue the 'new name' tradition as they'll likely sponsor it one of these years..

[Frayed Knot]

'The Fish Tank' gets its official opening tonight as the Cardinals get rewarded for their championship by starting their season on the road in Miami.
It's the lone game today (7:00 ESPN) before the rest of the league starts tomorrow or Friday.

[Benjamin Grimm]

And Jose Reyes' Met-purity will officially come to an end.

Unless, of course, he pulls a muscle or something.

[metsmarathon]

it's too bad they couldn't grow the grass to be the same color as the walls. right now they kinda clash.

and i like the way the ad names float by the scoreboard. it's all about getting ht name out there anyways. a distracting ad for miccosukee might show me more of what they're all about, but hte name actually makes me want to google it.

and now i know it's a indian casino resort thing.

better than a big ugle square or rectangle ad thing. like the stanley ad on the wall there. yeesh.

[Ceetar]

yeah, the Stanley one ain't great, but it's the lime green walls fault at least in part.

I'm still thrown by the trapezoidal scoreboard. TV screens are square for a reason. just seems like it's going to be weird to view things on.

[Ceetar]

@coreyNYC is at Marlins park tweeting a whole bunch of things.

Here's the bobblehead museum. interesting.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Owner Jeffrey Loria on the Marlins' Bobblehead Museum
http://news.yahoo.com/video/sports-15749645/marlins-owner-jeffrey-loria-talks-bobblehead-museum-28833178.html

Bobblehead Museum fan videos

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[batmagadanleadoff]

I watched some of yesterday's Marlins inaugural stadium game. From the TV, the stadium looked fantastic. Innovative, futuristic, yet light and airy.

I love the way they handled the scoreboard advertising. The copy looks like a transparency overlay, with so much white space that it appears as if the ad is not even there. The Marlins demonstrated that they're able to tend to the bottom line without being such damn philistines about it.




I re-read this thread and this Lunchbucket quote resonates strongly with me:

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: the coverage of this story (and the new logo) has gotten so goddamn snarky it's as though teams would be better off not bothering to try anything creative or new. They'd all be as dull as Citifield.

I couldn't agree more. To tell you truth, I don't think there's anything in Citi Field - not one damn thing -- as aesthetically pleasing or innovative as the old Shea Stadium shingles or the white bandshell that wrapped around the Shea scoreboard.

[batmagadanleadoff]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Looking at CF from the Whitestone or Van Wyck just breaks your heart, nothing says "baseball" everything says advertising.

I could've written this same post, word for word. The first time I saw Citi Field from the Whitestone/Van Wyck, my heart broke.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

/pats self on back.

I also liked the look of the Marlins park, especially considering the fact that indoor ballparks don;t look good to me in general. I certainly don't mind the bright green fence and really liked the fish tanks.

On the down side the logo is OK but way too big on the hats. I don't really like the number font they use, and confused why'd they wear home jerseys saying MIAMI on 'em, rather than MARLINS. I always thought use the city name on the road unis.

[Edgy MD]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: I love the way they handled the scoreboard advertising. The copy looks like a transparency overlay, with so much white space that it appears as if the ad is not even there.

I'm with you then I'm not. I share your appreciation for the absence of advertising's intrusiveness on that wall. But in its place, you have the architectural character of a convention center. And not THE convention center, but the old one, on the other side of town, that never really worked out. The shear eggshell white surface and the ventilated metal surface of the same color underneath are living death and they're only going to get more deathly as they absorb stains in the Miami humidity.

It's strangely sterile in a park that is anything but, and I suspect new garishness will cover that wall in time.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Did the Marlins tip their hand? Is that David Wright, Andy Warhol style, in a Marlins cap on the scoreboard?

[metirish]

My first reaction was to think it was Wright.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

I like the new Marlins Park. It's different, it's fun, it's very Miami.

And this might get me pummeled, but I liked Citi Field a lot when I attended the game there. And I think the changes make it better.

[Guest Mets � Willets Point]

I actually like Citi Field too, at least on the inside. The main thing I don't like about it is that it's still in the same sea of parking lots fairly removed from an inhabited part of the city.

I also like that Marlins are trying new things with their ballpark, uniforms, and colors. I think they're all an improvement on the old Florida Marlins and breath of fresh air for baseball in general.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I like the idea that the Marlins park is a modern design. Going retro was a good idea for the Orioles in 1992 but since then it's been done, and overdone, to death. I wish the Mets had been more innovative in their architecture.