Mets Uni Changes

[TransMonk]

HahnSolo wrote: There's something comforting in knowing I can flip to a game and immediately know which two teams are playing.

I can agree with this. These days it's easier to recognize the backstops of stadiums than it is the unis.

[batmagadanleadoff]

TransMonk wrote: These days it's easier to recognize the backstops of stadiums than it is the unis.

Oh yeah?



"I put a brick wall behind home plate at Citi Field, I did. That was my idea."

[Centerfield]

As to the blue jerseys, I'm not a big fan. I think the orange lettering looks kind of awkward.

I'd love for them to incorporate a blue jersey, but I'd want it to look something like this:



Throw the logo on the sleeve and I'm all set.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

TransMonk wrote: TransMonk wrote: My only wardrobe hatred is for those stupid red, white and blue caps they wear on Memorial Day/4th of July. Thanks, Fred. I don't know if you can blame Fred for that as it appears to be MLB wide. It is MLB wide, but Fred was "instrumental" in the creation of the "Welcome Back Veterans" initiative that spawned the ugly things. http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080703&content_id=3058979&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb I forgot that the wear them on 9/11 too. Fuck.

I like the Stars and Stripes caps, though I think they should stick with the team's colors. Certainly the red didn't look that good on the Mets.

Call me crazy, but I don't mind the giant flags, the singing of "God Bless America" and the other patriotic celebrations.

[Benjamin Grimm]

As to the blue jerseys, I'm not a big fan. I think the orange lettering looks kind of awkward. I'd love for them to incorporate a blue jersey, but I'd want it to look something like this: Throw the logo on the sleeve and I'm all set.

That shade of blue might be good on a road uniform, but I'd want a brighter shade on a home uniform. (Although, as I said earlier, I really prefer home uniforms to be white.)

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: If the MFYs and their fanbase are laughing at us, it isn't because of the unis.

I laugh at their butt-ugly uniforms all the time. They can't even get the NY to match on the cap, jersey and batting helmet. (Look it up.) It's not that difficult, people.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

I dislike the vertical swastika for what it represents.

But it's damn pretty, aesthetically.

As for Mets blue jerseys... black lettering on a dark blue jersey? This is the kind of shit of which we've been trying to rid ourselves, man. Orange is bright blue's direct color-wheel complement, folks.

[Centerfield]

Oh come on. Look at Nimmo. Look how good he looks.

[TransMonk]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: I like the Stars and Stripes caps, though I think they should stick with the team's colors. Certainly the red didn't look that good on the Mets. Call me crazy, but I don't mind the giant flags, the singing of "God Bless America" and the other patriotic celebrations.

It's one thing when it is truly spontaneous and heartfelt, i.e. the wearing of the PD and FD hats after 9/11.

But, IMO, forced and uniform "patriotism" is both ugly and fake. Some people (like me) feel patriotism in other, more personal and honest ways than the stale presentation that sporting events and other large gatherings try to give it.

[Ceetar]

TransMonk wrote: metsguyinmichigan wrote: I like the Stars and Stripes caps, though I think they should stick with the team's colors. Certainly the red didn't look that good on the Mets. Call me crazy, but I don't mind the giant flags, the singing of "God Bless America" and the other patriotic celebrations. It's one thing when it is truly spontaneous and heartfelt, i.e. the wearing of the PD and FD hats after 9/11. But, IMO, forced and uniform "patriotism" is both ugly and fake. Some people (like me) feel patriotism in other, more personal and honest ways than the stale presentation that sporting events and other large gatherings try to give it.

I think that's the point i'm trying to make in the other thread.


Anyway, Mets police mentioned via Uniwatch that definitely no black dropshadow for next year's throwbacks.

[Ceetar]

unrelatedly, my cousin was one of the people unrolling the giant flag this Opening Day.

[Edgy MD]

Ceetar wrote: TransMonk wrote: metsguyinmichigan wrote: I like the Stars and Stripes caps, though I think they should stick with the team's colors. Certainly the red didn't look that good on the Mets. Call me crazy, but I don't mind the giant flags, the singing of "God Bless America" and the other patriotic celebrations. It's one thing when it is truly spontaneous and heartfelt, i.e. the wearing of the PD and FD hats after 9/11. But, IMO, forced and uniform "patriotism" is both ugly and fake. Some people (like me) feel patriotism in other, more personal and honest ways than the stale presentation that sporting events and other large gatherings try to give it. I think that's the point i'm trying to make in the other thread.

Then I continue to ask you to read and consider to the total of what people are writing. Because the wonderful part about the Mets' gesture is that it wasn't forced or uniform or stale. It was unique to the team, it was spontaneous, and it bubbled up from the players, rather than being imposed on them by a mandate from on high.

[TransMonk]

Ceetar wrote: TransMonk wrote: It's one thing when it is truly spontaneous and heartfelt, i.e. the wearing of the PD and FD hats after 9/11. But, IMO, forced and uniform "patriotism" is both ugly and fake. Some people (like me) feel patriotism in other, more personal and honest ways than the stale presentation that sporting events and other large gatherings try to give it. I think that's the point i'm trying to make in the other thread.

Whoa, whoa, whoa...I'm not making any statement about the other thread (the one with an image of a guy holding a gun to his head) here.

I disagree with the MLB mandate of stars and stripes caps on every "patriotic" holiday. Like I said above, I think the FDNY, etc. caps is what being patriotic is all about. It's unique to NY and is targeting a specific group of people to honor. I think that is great.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

TransMonk wrote: metsguyinmichigan wrote: I like the Stars and Stripes caps, though I think they should stick with the team's colors. Certainly the red didn't look that good on the Mets. Call me crazy, but I don't mind the giant flags, the singing of "God Bless America" and the other patriotic celebrations. It's one thing when it is truly spontaneous and heartfelt, i.e. the wearing of the PD and FD hats after 9/11. But, IMO, forced and uniform "patriotism" is both ugly and fake. Some people (like me) feel patriotism in other, more personal and honest ways than the stale presentation that sporting events and other large gatherings try to give it.

Guess I don't think there is anything wrong with a little celebrating our country. I suppose there are some people who don't like playing the national anthem before the start of a game. I think it's a neat tradition. Seems like you'd consider it ugly and fake. To each his own.

[Edgy MD]

The National Anthem has certainly grown kinda stale. We're asked to sing. But when we do, folks look at us funny. And my wife can sing (if I can't really so much). The person at the mic, somewhere along the line, stopped being somebody who "leads us in the singing of our national anthem" and started being someone who is "performing our national anthem."

But that's all part of growing toward a nation of watchers and not doers.

But the star-spangled hats has wiped out a more-authentic and personal patriotic statement (and a far more deeply moving one) by the Flushing nine. And "God Bless America" imposed belief in the divine upon the growing and authentic patriotism in the country, and if we are honest about our faith in our country, our relation with the divine has to remain a private and personal choice. It was a very awkward thing to mix into the post-attack public life. And I kind of like the song.

[TransMonk]

The National Anthem is a fine tradition that has been around for decades. I've got no problem with that and I'll take stand and take my cap off every time. The Padres wear camo unis every once in a while. I'm not a miltary man, but I've got no beef with that either as an honoring of our troops.

Wearing those ugly caps on Memorial Day weekend AND Fourth of July weekend AND September 11th is not a tradition. It has been forced upon every team on specific weekends for the past few years and I find it to be disingenuous. I won't forget that it's Memorial Day if Jon Niese isn't wearing that red, white and blue cap that clashes with his uniform.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: The National Anthem has certainly grown kinda stale. We're asked to sing. But when we do, folks look at us funny. And my wife can sing (if I can't really so much). The person at the mic, somewhere along the line, stopped being somebody who "leads us in the singing of our national anthem" and started being someone who is "performing our national anthem." But that's all part of growing toward a nation of watchers and not doers. But the star-spangled hats has wiped out a more-authentic and personal patriotic statement (and a far more deeply moving one) by the Flushing nine. And "God Bless America" imposed belief in the divine upon the growing and authentic patriotism in the country, and if we are honest about our faith in our country, our relation with the divine has to remain a private and personal choice. It was a very awkward thing to mix into the post-attack public life. And I kind of like the song.

Also every singer has to personalize the song and exaggerate and elongate parts of it. (how exactly would you sing along to that anyway?) Just sing the song with no fanfare and I'll wait to clap until you're finished, not 15 seconds before you do.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

TransMonk wrote: Wearing those ugly caps on Memorial Day weekend AND Fourth of July weekend AND September 11th is not a tradition. It has been forced upon every team on specific weekends for the past few years and I find it to be disingenuous. I won't forget that it's Memorial Day if Jon Niese isn't wearing that red, white and blue cap that clashes with his uniform.

It's been, what, four years now? It's becoming a tradition. But I agree that the clashing is bad. Would be better if they stuck to team colors.

I don't mind the green caps on St. Patrick's Day, either.

[Ceetar]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: TransMonk wrote: Wearing those ugly caps on Memorial Day weekend AND Fourth of July weekend AND September 11th is not a tradition. It has been forced upon every team on specific weekends for the past few years and I find it to be disingenuous. I won't forget that it's Memorial Day if Jon Niese isn't wearing that red, white and blue cap that clashes with his uniform. It's been, what, four years now? It's becoming a tradition. But I agree that the clashing is bad. Would be better if they stuck to team colors. I don't mind the green caps on St. Patrick's Day, either.

still looking to buy one of those for the wife. Of course, that's Spring Training, and they did look kinda silly. But at least they died my Shock Top green.

[G-Fafif]

Mets are en route to a third consecutive losing season. Some traditions don't deserve continuity.

Stars & Stripes Mets caps thus far, one fan's opinion:

Smoky blue caps, 2008: ugly.
Red caps, 2009: abomination.
White caps, blue bill, 2010: liked them enough to buy one.
Trucker caps, 2011: they obviously ran out of ideas.

[Edgy MD]

Probably never had one, but even the podium is without the black dropshadow. (The mics could stand to lose the Citi logo, but...)