Don't trade Reyes

[Ceetar]

From Metsblog, via the FAN's interview with Alderson this morning: He spoke about the future of Jose Reyes, and said he intends to reach out to his agents soon. He is aware of the fan sentiment regarding Reyes and acknowledged that has an effect on these kinds of decisions. However, while Reyes has expressed his loyalty to the Mets and the fans, he doesn�t know if Reyes intends to test free agency this winter. I'd be pretty surprised if he didn't go FA.

We'll see. This means Alderson hasn't actually offered him an opportunity not to test them. give him something that works 5/6 with option years and what not and maybe he won't test free agency.

[TransMonk]

I agree...I think he's gonna test the market. Why wouldn't he?

But still, I don't think he should be traded.

[Ceetar]

TransMonk wrote: I agree...I think he's gonna test the market. Why wouldn't he? But still, I don't think he should be traded.

Because he wants to stay and they come to an agreement that makes him plenty happy?

They get the MTA to name the 7 Express train after him?

[Benjamin Grimm]

Mike Piazza never tested free agency in 1998. And he came a lot closer than Jose Reyes is now. (He was just a week or two away.)

[TransMonk]

I don't think Piazza gave the Mets a discount, the Mets gave him pretty much what he wanted...right?

I suppose Reyes could sign and be done with it...but I think he'd at least like to see what he's worth this winter.

[A Boy Named Seo]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Mike Piazza never tested free agency in 1998. And he came a lot closer than Jose Reyes is now. (He was just a week or two away.)

Piazza was during the season? My brain in all mush. Still think Reyes goes FA. This is his 1 big pay-day shot & I'm not sure even he knows what he can get at this point.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Piazza was following the season, but shortly before open-season on FA began.

I'd be very surprised if JoseJose doesn't go past that date, just to see what he could earn. Why not?

[Benjamin Grimm]

No, Piazza signed during that period between the end of the season and the time he was permitted to talk to other teams. I think it was while the playoffs were going on.

My point in bringing that up is that not all players take the free agency plunge, even if they're only days away from being eligible. We can say, "Of course Reyes will test the market! Why wouldn't he?" And the answer could be the same reason (whatever it was) that Mike Piazza didn't test the market. (And many other players as well, I'm sure. Piazza is the one that comes first to mind for me.)

[Frayed Knot]

I remember the year Mark McGwire was traded to StL and how everyone knew it was just a rental because he was going to play out the season then run back to the west coast so he could be with his son and all that stuff.
And then he wound up signing with the Cards before the season even ended.


IIRC, the home-team "window" where a team has exclusive rights to their own FAs at the end of the year is shorter now than the two weeks or so that it used to be.

[TransMonk]

Mike Piazza didn't test the market because the Mets offered him a then record-breaking 7 year $91M deal.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Yeah, but he could have waited two or three weeks to see what other teams were offering.

[TransMonk]

I guess...I'm just saying that the Mets aren't exactly going to be offering Reyes a 7 year $145M deal off the bat.

Will he take 5/$90M (WAG) if he think he can get more...especially where the years are concerned? Piazza was being offered 7 years back when those types of deals were rare to none.

[Vic Sage]

why don't we offer him Piazza's deal? It worked once...

[A Boy Named Seo]

Bloop triple? Maybe don't trade him.

[Ceetar]

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Bloop triple? Maybe don't trade him.

and Oh No! In year 6 that might've only been a bloop double!

[Elster88]

I actually am enjoying his great season a little less because I don't think he'll be on the team next year. I feel like a greasy WFAN caller.

[Ceetar]

on pace for 234 hits.

[metirish]

Scott Boras courting Reyes

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/new-york-mets-SS-Jose-Reyes-on-super-agent-scott-boras-radar-061711

[Ceetar]

metirish wrote: Scott Boras courting Reyes http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/new-york-mets-SS-Jose-Reyes-on-super-agent-scott-boras-radar-061711

I can kinda picture Boras following Reyes around drooling.

[ashie62]

42 days til the deadline. We do NOT need an extended Mets losing streak.

[metirish]

Can't wait to see the book Boras has made up for Reyes.

[A Boy Named Seo]

"You say his hat is 2 big?? He needs that big hat to house his giant, smart ballplayer's brain. You gotta pay extra for that."

"What, he dances all crazy?! Jeff, that's entertainment value. It's like Salsa night at the park every night. Or Samba. Whatever. But it ain't free."

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

"Thanks, but no thanks."

�No chance,� Reyes said, about the possibility of switching agents. �We talked a couple of times on the phone. He�s always tried to get me since the minor leagues, but like I said, I�m happy with my agents.�

[TransMonk]

That's a good thing. If he had switched to Boras, my hope that he would return next season would have given up the ghost.

[Benjamin Grimm]

True dat.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

The Franchise talks.

"Unless you have a game plan to go in a different direction, you can't get rid of him. He's too good," Seaver said on Saturday evening. Seaver made it clear that he was not advocating for the Mets to sign Reyes or let him go. He simply stated that the Mets need to be prepared to deal with the loss of a player of Reyes' caliber... Seaver views Reyes as a player "you build around." If the Mets don't re-sign Reyes, Seaver wondered, "What are you going to replace him with?" "If you're trading the franchise player ... you are in a regroup mode. I'm not saying rebuilding mode, but you're in a regroup mode," said Seaver, who was on hand Saturday in support of Bring Change2Mind, a mental health awareness group. "The people that they have now are too smart not to have a plan to regroup (if they don't retain Reyes)," Seaver added.

Feel free to sub "rebuild, but with David Wright and Johan contractually obligated to stick around" for "regroup."

[bmfc1]

I will summarize Joel Sherman's column from today:

The Mets are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/for_mets_alderson_pros_cons_ride_DAYdoKXe5D46MUjUbedMtJ

[Theoldmole]

No, they're only damned if they do.

[Guest themetfairy]

N'echangez pas Jose!

[ashie62]

How about getting over .500 for a few games to at least help to keep Jose here.