General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Name that game:

June 25, 1986.

METS 4TH: Hernandez grounded out (first unassisted); Strawberry doubled to left; Foster grounded out (second to first) [strawberry to third]; K. Mitchell doubled to left [strawberry scored]; Knight singled to left [K. Mitchell scored, Knight to second (on throw to home)]; Hearn walked; Fernandez singled to left [Knight scored, Hearn to third]; SCHATZEDER REPLACED MCGAFFIGAN (PITCHING); Dykstra doubled to center [Hearn scored, Fernandez out at third (center to shortstop to catcher to pitcher to third)]; 4 R, 5 H, 0 E, 1 LOB. Expos 2, Mets 4.

[Zvon]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: ... and a card that never was ... the '66 Yogi ... pleasant to see but unrealistic because Yogi announced his retirement early in the '65 campaign

Very kool (drool). I've never seen that picture of Yogi before. Nice wow factor.

[Zvon]

________________ Name that game:

May 30, 1970
Mets 4, Astros 3

OE:same game as the Agee card, it looks like.
OEE: I'll bet thats Jimmy Wynn stealing second.(he and Joe Morgan stole bases that game.)

[Zvon]

The 86 Topps will take a few. Theres a wow factor and a gag factor. I have to overcome the gag factor to make that border 87 Topps will be no problem.

[batmagadanleadoff]

________________ Name that game: May 30, 1970 Mets 4, Astros 3 OE:same game as the Agee card, it looks like. OEE: I'll bet thats Jimmy Wynn stealing second.(he and Joe Morgan stole bases that game.)

Name that game: June 25, 1986. METS 4TH: Hernandez grounded out (first unassisted); Strawberry doubled to left; Foster grounded out (second to first) [strawberry to third]; K. Mitchell doubled to left [strawberry scored]; Knight singled to left [K. Mitchell scored, Knight to second (on throw to home)]; Hearn walked; Fernandez singled to left [Knight scored, Hearn to third]; SCHATZEDER REPLACED MCGAFFIGAN (PITCHING); Dykstra doubled to center [Hearn scored, Fernandez out at third (center to shortstop to catcher to pitcher to third)]; 4 R, 5 H, 0 E, 1 LOB. Expos 2, Mets 4.

Winners, winners, everywhere. Uncle Doc's Card Closet http://www.uncledocscardcloset.com/ is a Baseball Card web site that has it's own Name that Game section. It was Uncle Doc who created that splendid looking '66 Yogi DIY, though I say the image belongs on a '65 template.

from Uncle Doc:

This week�s Cameo Card was almost a Name the Game card, but I couldn�t be 100% certain of the exact play depicted. Hence, that is why this 1971 Topps Bud Harrelson (#355) card has been relegated to the Cameo Card Club. My research on this card showed that it is the May 30, 1970 matchup between the Houston Astros and New York Mets. I was able to deduce that nugget because of who�s on the mound. #30. The Ryan Express. Nolan Ryan tossed one home game against the Houston Astros and that was the May 30th matchup. Well, given all that information, you�re probably asking why I couldn�t name the exact play shown on the card. It�s obviously a stolen base attempt, since Ken Boswell is backing up the covering Bud Harrelson, while Nolan Ryan is off on the 1st base side of the mound. Problem is, there were two stolen base attempts in that game. One by Jim Wynn and the other by Joe Morgan (both safe). I�m almost positive that is Jim Wynn sliding into second because of the monster sideburns in the photo. However, the distance is too far and the resolution is too low to correctly Name the Game. Yet, this card fits nicely into the Cameo Card Club. I love the action in the shot with Nolan Ryan appearing to clench his right fist in a �we got�em out� gesture. But, if you look really closely, second base umpire, Ken Burkhart is beginning his �safe� motion. Man, I would have loved to have seen Ryan�s reaction after the �safe� call was made. By the way, this 1971 Bud Harrelson card is an inexpensive way to pick up a �71 Topps Nolan Ryan (cameo) card!!

Name the Game - 1987 Topps Kevin Mitchell This is an epic baseball card. It was huge back in 1987, and unlike most of the junk wax era, I dare say this card has aged well. Before we delve into Naming the Game, let�s dissect this card. It is obviously a play at home given that the Expos catcher Mike Fitzgerald is in the frame. What else do we see? 1. Catcher�s mask in the foreground. 2. Fitzgerald with his head turned looking for a passed ball. 3. Kevin Mitchell rising like a Phoenix out of a swirling, cloud of dust. 4. Mitchell�s blue batting gloves, orange wristbands and orange undershirt. 5. Kevin�s huge pack of chaw and accompanying �woooooo� look. 6. The crowd is on their feet! I bet 100 cards that PlayatthePlate has this card in his collection! Now own to why we are here� In 1986, Kevin Mitchell played in six home games against The �Spos in 1986. A three game set in late June and a three game set at the beginning of August. Of those games, Fitzgerald appeared in four, the entire June series and the first game of the August series. Three of those four games were at night, so, easily enough, we are left with the June 25, 1986 game as the one shown on the card. Let�s try and figure out what play this is! In this game, Mitchell was 3 for 4, but only made it to home plate in the Bottom of the 4th. To get on base, Mitchell lined a double to left field off of Andy McGaffigan, scoring Daryl Strawberry. The next batter, Ray Knight, singled to Tim Raines in left, who then tried to nab Mitchell at home. The throw made it passed Fitzgerald, allowing Knight to advance�The Mets went on to beat the Expos 5 to 2. So, the play depicted on this card was during a June 25th 1986 day game at Shea Stadium between the New York Mets and Montreal Expos. Specifically, the play at the plate was in the bottom of the fourth inning. Quick Fact � Mike Fitzgerald began his career as a catcher for the New York Mets and was latter part of a trade that brought Gary Carter from the Expos to the Mets in December of 1984.

[Zvon]

See, the sideburns. On these 60s-70s cards the sideburns can always help narrow down the year(s). As a matter of fact those sideburns on Yogi do not say 1966 to me. I'd have to look and compare but I'm thinkin '68.

[Zvon]

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[batmagadanleadoff]

Zvon wrote:

So what's gonna be the caption for Agee's 2nd great catch of the day -- his dive on Blair's shot towards the right-center field gap? Because how many days can Agee save in a day? There's only one day in a day, and only one day to save in a day. And if the day was already saved, then what? I just wanted to make up an excuse to post your card one more time.

[Edgy MD]

The day was saved then lost again, thus needing re-saving.

[Zvon]

It would have to be:


Not sure I'm going with that pic. Anyone remember the Brooks Robinson '71 WS card for his catch off Bench (from the '70 series)?

[batmagadanleadoff]

[Edgy MD]

Could change that last word to "buggery" and keep everything else the same.

[Zvon]

Edgy MD wrote: Could change that last word to "buggery" and keep everything else the same.

lol. Well. I idolized Agee for what I thought was years, but it really only was one good really solid year because along comes Brooks in the 70 series and does what he does. Agee was nudged over as Brooks became my idol in '71. In the outfield, I was still Agee. I also picked 20 as my uni number one year in CYO in Tommies honor. And five the next season, for Brooks.

K, Im babbling. So, I knew there would be a real kool WS card and I was hoping it would capture one of Brook's catches. When I got it I had a super wow factor because it was the oddest view you could ever imagine. It showed nothing of what a great play it was. Just some guy sticking his ass up in the sand. But I loved it. I had never seen the picture before.

So for catch two I was leaning towards doing a card that was a personal tribute to the Brooks card.
Gimme a min. I'll post it.

[Zvon]

So this is the exact opposite from my goal to use the best pic of the catch, cuz the first one is the best photo, no doubt. Another image that I don't think I saw until the 90's. The one below I first saw in the 2000's. And there are more out there taken a second or two off.
I think batmags is right. I should just use em all. There are no rules.

[Zvon]

You guys can help me pick what Swobodas catch card says. All I got is "SWOBODA'S AMAZIN' CATCH!". I think thats kinda cliche.
They all have "!"s on em. I'll have to look see if the real cards did.

[Edgy MD]

For some reason, Swoboda's catch was long known as "Swoboda's Circus Catch." Other diving catches have gotten that appellation, but it seemed pretty fixed on his.

I call it the Greatest Catch in World Series History.

Cleon made a nifty catch in the Series that would long be remembered if it wasn't the fourth best outfield catch they had.

[Zvon]

Edgy MD wrote: For some reason, Swoboda's catch was long known as "Swoboda's Circus Catch." Other diving catches have gotten that appellation, but it seemed pretty fixed on his. I call it the Greatest Catch in World Series History. Cleon made a nifty catch in the Series that would long be remembered if it wasn't the fourth best outfield catch they had.

I think I have a pic of Cleons shoestringer.

Yo, "Swoboda's Circus Catch" is perfect. That probably what Topps would have called it. Thats the thing I'm trying to do here. What would Topps have done then if they did it.

I have never personally seen what I feel would be a circus catch. You'd have to do cartwheels and land spot on with your arms up in victory to get that call from me. And a hoop would be involved.
Ive seen circus misses.

[batmagadanleadoff]

"Did you see what I saw? Amazin'. Amazin'. Amazin'".

[dinosaur jesus]

"Ron Swoboda Is Stronger Than Dirt"?

[Edgy MD]

Usually, a diving catch means you extend, catch it, and then hit the ground, hopefully maintaining your grip as you absorb the impact.

But look there. Rocky's knee has already hit the ground, his throwing hand his hit, and the ball isn't even in the frame. I've seen the catch a thousand times, and I can't say if his chest or catching arm lands before his catch, but if I had to bet, I'd say yeah, they did.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Edgy MD wrote: Usually, a diving catch means you extend, catch it, and then hit the ground, hopefully maintaining your grip as you absorb the impact. But look there. Rocky's knee has already hit the ground, his throwing hand his hit, and the ball isn't even in the frame. I've seen the catch a thousand times, and I can't say if his chest or catching arm lands before his catch, but if I had to bet, I'd say yeah, they did.

You make the call:

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I'm not convinced that the top-most Daily News Swoboda still is conclusive. Though it appears that Swoboda's left knee is on the grass before the ball arrives, it's possible that his left knee is as close to the grass as possible without actually touching the field. And the ball, traveling much faster than Swoboda, would arrive and land in Ron's glove in a micro-instant after that still.

[Zvon]

batmagadanleadoff wrote:

Those are great pics.

On Rons catch don't forget he was moving. Fast. Even if that leg skimmed first, he was diving. It can be considered full extension IMO. Picked it off an inch off the grass. Its one of the ultimate diving catches ever. Maybe the best ever in the game up to that point. Gloves in those days were not as good or as large. We see full extension diving catches all the time now. Ironic that a guy who was considered a real shitty fielder made that play.

Now Agee's 2nd catch in right center has been called a diving catch but it really wasn't. Its a lunging grab. The wind or spin was taking it away from him and he had to go down with it and lunge under the ball with a long stride. His momentum took him to the grass and he slid along his chest.

[Guest Mets Guy in Michigan]

That's a great video, with the added bonus of a Nancy Seaver sighting. She should have her own card!

[Benjamin Grimm]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: That's a great video, with the added bonus of a Nancy Seaver sighting. She should have her own card!

[Guest Mets Guy in Michigan]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: metsguyinmichigan wrote: That's a great video, with the added bonus of a Nancy Seaver sighting. She should have her own card!

Brilliant! Back in 1973, I would have used ALL of my allowance to get one of those!

And I love those Agee cards, too. You guys are awesome!

[Zvon]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: metsguyinmichigan wrote: That's a great video, with the added bonus of a Nancy Seaver sighting. She should have her own card!

Sweet.

Is going full name on Tommie over the top?



Looking for color photos of the Mets "whooping it up". This is almost right out of that vid. There has to be better color pics of the clubhouse celebration. Loads of B&W ones out there.

[G-Fafif]

ROCKY ROBS ROBBY!

[Guest Mets Guy in Michigan]

Zvon wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: metsguyinmichigan wrote: Looking for color photos of the Mets "whooping it up". This is almost right out of that vid. There has to be better color pics of the clubhouse celebration. Loads of B&W ones out there.

Bowie Kuhn, photobombing the celebration with his usual joy. Did that guy ever smile? Lighten up, Bowie!

[Zvon]

ROCKY ROBS ROBBY!

Nice but don't trump circus catch. TY for playing

Consolation prize:

[batmagadanleadoff]

Zvon wrote: Is going full name on Tommie over the top?

I'd read the Topps Style Manual.