Evans

[MFS62]

attgig wrote: according to espn, he's been put on waviers

Are those what used to be called irrevocable waivers, or if another team claims him, can he be pulled back and a trade negotiated?
Later

[Guest The Second Spitter]

No, they're not irrevocable waivers.

What I wanna know is who is the "baseball official" who made the list public and why would ESPN bring attention to the fact they publicized a list that is suppose to be secretive?

The Mets placed Nick Evans, Luis Hernandez and Pat Misch on waivers Monday, according to a baseball official who was not authorized to speak publicly because the process is secretive.

I can think of two scenarios:
1. The baseball official and ESPN both dislike the Mets and ESPN wants to hammer home the fact they are doing them a disservice.
2. The baseball official dislikes the Mets and ESPN dislikes both the Mets and the baseball official and wants the latter exposed for his misfeasance.

And I'm willing to wager the family ranch the "baseball official" is someone out of a NL East front-office.

[duan]

"baseball official who was not authorized to speak publicly because the process is secretive. "

actually they use that kind of language all the time in these reports and while it does kind of bug me (hey if you're not supposed to talk about it don't talk about it!) it's nothing particular to the mets/espn in this context.

[Guest The Second Spitter]

duan wrote: "baseball official who was not authorized to speak publicly because the process is secretive. " actually they use that kind of language all the time in these reports and while it does kind of bug me (hey if you're not supposed to talk about it don't talk about it!) it's nothing particular to the mets/espn in this context.

Except it's alerting other GM's (who may be otherwise pre-occupied) of the fact 3 useful players are available. Advertising this is actually doing the Mets a disservice.

[duan]

I absolutely guarantee you that every baseball operations office watches the waiver wire closer then they watch ESPN.

Each office will have a list of the guys from other organisations who are likely to be on the bubble and whom they see as potential fits for their needs. They'll have scouting reports and stats databases to back it up.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Toby Hyde addresses the whole shebang comprehensively and even-handedly here.

I think Hyde's correct in saying it isn't Murphy-- because of 2B-- over Evans, so much as it is Harris over Evans.

On the "Fragile OF":

Are these [comments about OF fragility] arguments for Evans or Harris? At first blush, they might argue for keeping a player of Harris� experience. However, on further inspection, I think they swing Evans� way. If one of the Mets� starting three goes down, Hairston could fill in capably for short periods of time, and even hit LHP. However, if Pagan does get nicked up, and the Mets committed to keeping Beltran in right, Hairston would be the only other guy in the organization with CF experience at the MLB level. Is that enough justification for keeping Harris? Harris, a career .239/.327/.352 hitter, wouldn�t be much help if the Mets need to fill AB on the corner. If one of the corners goes down, Murphy would be sitting on the Mets� bench, and three promising left-handed hitters, Lucas Duda, Fernando Martinez and Kirk Nieuwenhuis would be lurking in AAA. All four of these young lefties could use a Nick Evans to hit against lefties for them at least occasionally. To be fair, they could also probably use a Harris to play defense too... ... I would have gone with Evans. His right-handed power off the bench has more tactical value on a daily basis than Harris� soft left-handed bat and defense. Evans could have allowed Terry Collins to be very tactically aggressive with his flexible infield parts of Emaus, Hu and Murphy. There could be weeks where Harris gets no more than one start, or a pinch-running opportunity. However, Evans would be a dangerous pinch-hitting option nearly every night, and a great alternative to Ike Davis against any LHP. His presence would maximize the 25th roster spot. Harris is the very definition of a replacement level baseball player.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Not bad.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Mets though see it as Evans v. Hairston, not Evans v. Harris. Same way they refuse to accept my comparison of Evans and Muffy.

[Guest Edgy DC]

It's assumptions about Harris' glove and middle infield usefulness that gets him set apart, apparently.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Claimed!



























By nobody

[metirish]

wow......who'd have guessed that? , if you're him are you happy or wondering why the hell no other team claimed me.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

It might be because he's always blinking allatime

[Benjamin Grimm]

I suspect that a lot of other teams also have roster space issues at this time of the year. A team that claims Evans would likely have to waive somebody else.

[Frayed Knot]

'nother HR by Hairston today ... just sayin'.

[G-Fafif]

Either every other team is a dope or we're a little overwhelmed by our own guy. I remember Vance Wilson having to be put through waivers when he was considered a stud prospect. Gary Cohen described with much sorrow how obviously the Mets were going to lose this talented young catcher and...nothing. Nobody took him and he lived to back up Piazza for several season to come.

[TransMonk]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I suspect that a lot of other teams also have roster space issues at this time of the year. A team that claims Evans would likely have to waive somebody else.

This.

G-Fafif wrote: ...or we're a little overwhelmed by our own guy.

And this.

Either way, I'm glad he's still ours in AAA.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Unless they re-launch him onto the roster to fill in for Bay.

[TransMonk]

The speculation I'm gathering is that Duda would fill in for a possible Bay DL stint so that Evans doesn't have to go through waivers again when Bay is eligible to return at the end of next week.

I imagine it will have to do with the severity of Bay's injury and the likelihood of his return as soon as possible, but if Bay will be ready sooner rather than later, I would agree with going Duda over Evans.

[smg58]

It's true that everybody goes through a crunch at this time of year, and that certainly may have been a factor. But Evans is 25 and had a .907 OPS in the minors last year, and there are teams that need right handed bats. If Bay's injury costs him significant time, we'll be one of them -- let's face it, the chances of Beltran and Bay both being out at the same time at some point are good. So I'm obviously glad he's still here.

[metirish]

Alderson says Evans cleared waivers yesterday but that they waited until today to inform the world because of the Bay/Duda situation.....so Evans had a chance to stay up......what no leaks?

Alderson expects Luis Hernandez to accept trip to Buffalo.....

[Guest The Second Spitter]

Great news that he's through.... ploughing through the 25-pages of waiver rules late last night generated some positive karma!

TransMonk wrote: G-Fafif wrote: ...or we're a little overwhelmed by our own guy. And this.

Maybe. Any guy who hits LHP like he does, can be an important cog. I (perhaps foolishly) still believe he can figure out righties, but I probably hold this belief because he is "our own guy".