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Fun article ,


I've talked to a lot of smart people about this.



while in the bar getting hammered.


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Valadius wrote:
Sign me up for the idea that sports teams be publicly traded.


i'm more interested in their being publicly owned.


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Vic Sage wrote:
Valadius wrote:
Sign me up for the idea that sports teams be publicly traded.


i'm more interested in their being publicly owned.

Interested?
It sure would be interesting.
I can imagine the discussions in a bar with a couple of fully lubricated owners arguing over a trade.

Later


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I know we're all spitballing and such... but a publicly-owned team in a league without a salary cap is a terrible idea.


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Denis Hamil takes a similar tack, sort of, here. Unfortunately timed allusion included.

Okay, it's time for the Mets-a-thon.

We've had tsunami telethons, Jerry Lewis muscular dystrophy telethons, AIDS telethons and Haiti hunger telethons.

Now it's time for all truly humanitarian Mets fans to step up to the plate to save this working class team that just tore down a perfectly sound and paid-off working class 55,000-seat stadium to build an $850 million 40,000-seat stadium - mortgaged to the jockstrap, named after a bank and designed for Wall Street yuppies who want to eat steak and drink martinis, instead of working stiffs from Area Code 718 who built this team on hot dogs and beers and diehard loyalty.


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How are folks so pro-Shea, these days? Really?


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Call me a yuppie, or a square if you'd like. I come for the games. But I LIKE a tangible Hall of Fame, a stadium that allows you to watch the game while standing or moving, using a puddle-free restroom (and walkways), traversing non-death-trappy stairways and escalators, and occasionally having a BluePoint Toasted Lager with palatable, affordable food.

Shea rocked because of the people in it. By its twilight, the structure-- with apologies to Greg-- was a shithole.


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It's still a money thing. People can do without the tangible hall of fame, the good food, the good beer, the legroom/more comfortable seat, etc. if they can buy a good seat at a decent price. That's gone now.


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If you ask me, I'd say that you can't even buy a bad seat at a decent price. The options aren't mutually exclusive. There's no reason why a fan can't have enjoyable seating, savory food choices and a hall of fame exhibit. But I'd say that seating options come first.


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I think it's a pretty obvious thing that the presence of Shea was something to beat the Wilpons over when the narrative was of cheapo poorer cousins, and now the absence of Shea is something to beat them over when the narrative is of overextended swindlers, and the facts or even an honest revelation of the author's opinion doesn't really enter into it.


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Edgy DC wrote:
I think it's a pretty obvious thing that the presence of Shea was something to beat the Wilpons over when the narrative was of cheapo poorer cousins, and now the absence of Shea is something to beat them over when the narrative is of overextended swindlers, and the facts or even an honest revelation of the author's opinion doesn't really enter into it.


The Wilpons had the most to gain from the notion that Shea was a shithole. They wanted us to believe it.


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That they deserve criticism for.


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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
If you ask me, I'd say that you can't even buy a bad seat at a decent price. The options aren't mutually exclusive. There's no reason why a fan can't have enjoyable seating, savory food choices and a hall of fame exhibit. But I'd say that seating options come first.


Of course I agree that the options aren't mutually exclusive in theory; I think they're mutually exclusive at Citi Field. This also would likely be less of an issue if either
A. the Mets' last two seasons hadn't gone in the toilet (preceded by two good seasons with bad endings); and
b. The economy hadn't gone in the toilet.


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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Shea rocked because of the people in it. By its twilight, the structure-- with apologies to Greg-- was a shithole.


You needen't apologize to me, but you will be hearing from the attorneys for Praeger-Kavanaugh-Waterbury.


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I will forever have a problem with the fact that they built a smaller stadium than the previous one in the biggest city in the country. But as much as I loved Shea, it badly needed some kind of upgrade.


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